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  1. #97
    Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

    Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.

  2. #98
    Good summation and accurate about the Persian womens (in fact they run around with a chip on their shoulder).

    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2006 View Post
    Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

    Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.

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    Some cold hard truths presented in this video..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackal2006 View Post
    Soon she will be bouncing at a club on king west and jumping from guy to guy. I personally don't believe her. I think she played the Canadian government and she's not as innocent as she seems. She probably wanted to ho around for a few years because this is what she sees from her contemporaries in the West online and her parents being very conservative said hell no. I've seen this before especially with Iranian women from families with some money (you know the princesses on Yonge from about Sheppard up to Richmond Hill) that come here and go nuts with their newfound freedoms doing drugs, booze, and again jumping from guy to guy. After a few years of that they get spit out and because no real man wants them they end up online dating on any of POF or eharmony. Sometimes because you have the freedom to do something does not mean you should go overboard. Partying will kill you in the long run if this is your go to leisure activity over a long time.

    Hopefully, this girl proves me wrong but I severely doubt it. She seems a spoiled girl that ran away to rebel.
    By seeking and being granted asylum in Canada she is free to explore her sexuality and freedom as all women in Canada are free to do just as long as she obeys the law of the land. I have encountered Persian women with the behaviour that you are alluding too but this young lady's situation is vastly different for many reasons.
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  5. #101
    Gen Z, her idea of abuse was something like her daddy taking her cell phone away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve bettman View Post
    Gen Z, her idea of abuse was something like her daddy taking her cell phone away.
    No this is different. She said, physical abuse to the point of bleeding, containment and other forms of abuse.

    Here is the video talking about her beating...also look at her expression when the reporter asks about her family disowning her.

    Although when she is asked about the violence at 0:41 her eyes glance to the up and right which could meaning deceit....at 2:03 she does look to the up left when she said she was prepared to end her life.

    These are lying eyes, according to NLP theory. Conventional wisdom has it that when people talk, the direction of their eye movements reveals whether or not they're lying. A glance up and to the left supposedly means a person is telling the truth, whereas a glance to the upper right signals deceit.
    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.live...nts-lying.html
    If you study her eyes as she speaks there are some patterns there. I am afraid to look further into this because I think I might not like what I see lol, although also kind of curious what a specialist on this subject would say. Maybe thats why she stopped doing interviews after her friends/supporters told her not to anymore and maybe because it subjects her to this micro psychoanalysis.

    IDK I want to believe her and thats why I do, especially because I have a bias in support of Persian women. It is possible she is making and/or fabricating parts of her story. But she could have been killed when she tried to escape, which is dangerous in itself. Maybe this is a clever way to bring her family back at high risk.


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    Here is the extended version of the interview.

    Definitely worth the watch all the way through. Regardless if she is lying or nor, the threats against her are quite real. She is a strong and powerful woman despite being fully truthful or not. Reminds me why I like to hobby because every now and then you meet some of the baddest and toughest women in this world who have lived the life and put your experiences in check. I think this is why this story fascinates me so much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by |2 /-\ | /|/ View Post
    Regardless if she is lying or nor, the threats against her are quite real.

    Outside Saudi Arabia there are many places in the world
    where you would put your life at risk by openly attacking
    some local despot. That despot could be a corrupted government
    official, a militant, a religious authority or a tribal leader. Is
    it our government's responsibility to take in an asylum seeker
    without following through the standard screening procedure
    provided that the seeker has demonstrated a character of strength
    by deliberately provoking their oppressor and then ran away?

  9. #105
    No, not all. Officially, they should only be responsible for local matters to answer your question below based on my opinion.

    However is it the ethical thing to do? IMO yes, even though it comes at an expense of others. My family followed the right procedure and we came here because of war so I know exactly how it feels for someone to bypass this system to get in. Now why is it the ethical thing? Because it has the power and potential to reach many people around the world and shed light on issues that many people just have no clue about and inspire a large number of people. I personally couldn't comprehend or just never had the need to truly think about how bad fundamentally it is for women in places such as saudi arabia until her story came through. Imagine how many more people this has reached that it actually matters. It has the power to connect and reach out to people to shed light on these truths but most importantly it has the power inspire people and give HOPE. Sometimes decisions are made that are beyond politics and based on human intuition and doing what feels right. Justin might of realized that her life was very close to end and any indecision wastes precious time and could have affected if she lives or not. If you look at all the videos on this there was a girl in exactly the same situation last year that got duct taped at a non saudi airport (can’t remember the country) and they took her back to saudi and she disappeared. Almost exactly the same sequence of events. Rahaf actually met a saudi representative in Thailand that took her and wanted to bring her back and somehow she managed to lock herself in an airport room until UNHCR arrived.

    Are there innocent people dying all around the world?yes of course! Should Canada be doing more? They should be doing more internally IMO. However sometimes people do what feels right and go beyond these bullshit politics and step outside their responsibilities such as Justin did in his role as the PM with this example. He knew he could do it at minimal backlash and risk to his position and he choose to save a girls life. I think its simple as that. I think its foolish to think that people are 100% motivated by politics and base their decisions on this and their responsibilities as an official. When he moves on even retires he will always remember that he saved a life and was probably a spark to something much bigger and greater then politics. Just think about this a little bit. These direct actions that he was responsible for will matter more to him then the standard business he conducted while being PM. Even this situation can be exploited for political gain, I don't think he main motivation was political.




    Quote Originally Posted by oil&gas View Post
    Outside Saudi Arabia there are many places in the world
    where you would put your life at risk by openly attacking
    some local despot. That despot could be a corrupted government
    official, a militant, a religious authority or a tribal leader. Is
    it our government's responsibility to take in an asylum seeker
    without following through the standard screening procedure

    provided that the seeker has demonstrated a character of strength
    by deliberately provoking their oppressor and then ran away?

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    I can see why this Rahaf Mohammed chick's queue-jumping
    success could inspire other young women left behind in Saudi
    to try their luck. Wonder how Trudeau and Freeland will respond
    when more of these women feeling oppressed end up losing
    more freedom or even their lives from failed runaway attempts. I suspect not many teenage girls in Saudi
    have the money to fly business class to the west to
    seek asylum.

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    The Saudi Government is very sensitive to world optics now since Khashoggi was butchered in Turkey. They may wish to not see this lady harmed or at least have any association with anything bad happening to her. Saudi Arabia is undergoing their own cultural revolution and the ruling house of Saud is at war with itself.
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  12. #108
    Unfortunately this has already happened after she arrived and as far as I can understand from following twitter and social media and they didn’t make it. I think this caused Rahaf to go into the underground and try to stay private.

    As a result of this incident the Saudis will put measures in place to strengthen their system and prevent this from occurring again and making girls who tried a public example and harshening the punishment.

    However I think the poison has already been injected by Rahafs actions and its spreading within causing dissension. Only time will tell if this was an ethical decision that benefited the greater number of people in the long run.

    Quote Originally Posted by oil&gas View Post
    I can see why this Rahaf Mohammed chick's queue-jumping
    success could inspire other young women left behind in Saudi
    to try their luck. Wonder how Trudeau and Freeland will respond
    when more of these women feeling oppressed end up losing
    more freedom or even their lives from failed runaway attempts. I suspect not many teenage girls in Saudi
    have the money to fly business class to the west to
    seek asylum.

  13. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by lomotil View Post
    The Saudi Government is very sensitive to world optics now since Khashoggi was butchered in Turkey. They may wish to not see this lady harmed or at least have any association with anything bad happening to her. Saudi Arabia is undergoing their own cultural revolution and the ruling house of Saud is at war with itself.
    ^^^ this, the dissension is real.

  14. #110
    Where is she staying? I would like to meet her! Looks like a dime and I know some Arabic.

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    Another example of how everyone is trying to get a piece of her and trying to exploit her to run their agenda even from people who identify as her and brainwash and impose their ideas using her as example...


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