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The Refugee policy is out of control in Canada

azeri99

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The government initially said it would need $74 million over two years to process all the refugee asylum claims, now there is a backlog and costs are rising. Now the government says it will need $280 million over 2 years plus $40 million in one time costs. The amount of claims are also rising currently standing at 64,000 and growing. This practice is irresponsible. This is on the Trudeau immigration policy, I don't have an issue with taking refugees but there has to be a limit. They should stop taking in any until these are resolved.

https://www.cjme.com/2019/01/11/74m-not-enough-to-cut-refugee-claim-backlog-internal-documents/
 

Frankfooter

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Trudeau should really talk to Trump about this, as according to your article most of the problem are people fleeing Trump's US.
That's a US issue that Canada is now forced to deal with.
 

azeri99

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Trudeau should really talk to Trump about this, as according to your article most of the problem are people fleeing Trump's US.
That's a US issue that Canada is now forced to deal with.
Quite possible but, he's not helping matters, he needs to stop the influx of refugees until this backlog is processed, once that's done he can start accepting them again, otherwise the issue will just get worse, they can't keep up with all the claims.
 

Frankfooter

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Quite possible but, he's not helping matters, he needs to stop the influx of refugees until this backlog is processed, once that's done he can start accepting them again, otherwise the issue will just get worse, they can't keep up with all the claims.
You think we need a wall between the US?
 

Big Sleazy

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You don't need a wall. What we need are leaders that can do grade 5 math and have a modicum of moral fortitude. Unfortunately Trudeau skipped math and took drama class. And as far as moral fortitude goes. Good luck.
 

azeri99

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You think we need a wall between the US?
No we don't need a wall, there are many ways to deal with it, don't allow all asylum claims, make it harder , what are Haitians and Nigerians running from other than poverty? I would deny them all and ask them to apply for immigration.
 

basketcase

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What option is there other than withdrawing from the UN Charter on refugees. As it is we are required to treat each claim on an individual basis, not just summarily reject an entire nation
 

Frankfooter

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No we don't need a wall, there are many ways to deal with it, don't allow all asylum claims, make it harder , what are Haitians and Nigerians running from other than poverty? I would deny them all and ask them to apply for immigration.
They are running from Trump and his white nationalism.
 

JohnLarue

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Trudeau should really talk to Trump about this, as according to your article most of the problem are people fleeing Trump's US.
That's a US issue that Canada is now forced to deal with.
Justin's Tweet that "Canada is welcoming to all"
A purely idealist decision which he clearly did not plan for either from an economic or logistical point of view
Once again we see Justin's decision making process following the "Ready, Shoot, Aim" approach
Another $74 MM further into debt that he can not be bothered to concern himself with, mostly because "The Budget will balance itself"
How many days until the election????
 

wigglee

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You don't need a wall. What we need are leaders that can do grade 5 math and have a modicum of moral fortitude. Unfortunately Trudeau skipped math and took drama class. And as far as moral fortitude goes. Good luck.
Because compassion shows a lack of moral fortitude? Did you attend Trump U by any chance?
 

azeri99

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What option is there other than withdrawing from the UN Charter on refugees. As it is we are required to treat each claim on an individual basis, not just summarily reject an entire nation
Treat each case individually but when you turn down claims from these countries ( Nigeria and Haiti) because they are only fleeing poverty and not violence or fearing for their lives, they will stop coming knowing their claims won't be accepted.
 

basketcase

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Treat each case individually but when you turn down claims from these countries ( Nigeria and Haiti) because they are only fleeing poverty and not violence or fearing for their lives, they will stop coming knowing their claims won't be accepted.
That is exactly what happens now.

It takes a while but the only way to speed it up would be spend even more money on judges, lawyers, and investigators.
 

azeri99

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That is exactly what happens now.

It takes a while but the only way to speed it up would be spend even more money on judges, lawyers, and investigators.
So why are they coming in droves from these countries unless they are being granted asylum. As far as I know Nigereians And Hatians are not fleeing violence or political prosecution.
 

JohnLarue

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So why are they coming in droves from these countries unless they are being granted asylum. As far as I know Nigereians And Hatians are not fleeing violence or political prosecution.
Because Justin Tweeted "Canada is welcoming to all" without giving it any serious thought
"Ready, Shoot, Aim"
 

Zaibetter

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Justin's Tweet that "Canada is welcoming to all"
A purely idealist decision which he clearly did not plan for either from an economic or logistical point of view
Once again we see Justin's decision making process following the "Ready, Shoot, Aim" approach
Another $74 MM further into debt that he can not be bothered to concern himself with, mostly because "The Budget will balance itself"
How many days until the election????
The minute the Groper did that welcoming speech "to all" we got flooded...
 

basketcase

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So why are they coming in droves from these countries unless they are being granted asylum. As far as I know Nigereians And Hatians are not fleeing violence or political prosecution.
Obviously your assumption that rejection is a deterrent is flawed.

And I'm sure somewhere on the internet I'm sure you can find the actual facts. The overwhelming numbers of Haitans and Nigerians are rejected.
https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/can...an-asylum-seekers-who-crossed-borders/60kwbjs
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...der-crossers-get-refugee-status-idUSKBN1DN02Z
 

onthebottom

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Trudeau should really talk to Trump about this, as according to your article most of the problem are people fleeing Trump's US.
That's a US issue that Canada is now forced to deal with.
We are paying it forward
 

azeri99

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Obviously your assumption that rejection is a deterrent is flawed.

And I'm sure somewhere on the internet I'm sure you can find the actual facts. The overwhelming numbers of Haitans and Nigerians are rejected.
https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/can...an-asylum-seekers-who-crossed-borders/60kwbjs
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...der-crossers-get-refugee-status-idUSKBN1DN02Z
Not all of them, they have nothing to lose, they might as well try, if they know people have gotten in, why wouldn't they try?. Why do you think they keep on coming?
 

Musketeer

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So why are they coming in droves from these countries unless they are being granted asylum. As far as I know Nigereians And Hatians are not fleeing violence or political prosecution.
There is a clear distinction between a 'refugee' fleeing war and persecution and an economic 'migrant' seeking a better life. Unfortunately, the media often blurs the distinction between the two as do the politicians as to confuse the issue. The majority of those crossing the border illegally are 'economic migrants' and not refugees. Justin Trudeau and his government are merely encouraging 'queue jumping' ahead of legitimate applicants waiting to immigrate to Canada by not protecting our borders and thus incurring huge costs to the Canadian taxpayer for housing and social services. I was shocked to read that some were being housed in the Radisson hotel in TO when we have so many Canadian homeless and some veterans suffering from PSTD out on the streets.
 

basketcase

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Not all of them, they have nothing to lose, they might as well try, if they know people have gotten in, why wouldn't they try?. Why do you think they keep on coming?
Yes, not all of them because as you accepted, the cases are looked at on an individual basis and 30% of Nigerians and 10% of Haitians provided sufficient evidence of being real refugee claimants.


Why people still try even though most get rejected is probably the same reason people continue to play the lottery even though the vast majority of people lose money.
 
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