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Iran's nuclear program

Frankfooter

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My issue isn't with the current treaty but rather Iran's actions that required the UN to act. They have intentionally developed a suspicious nuclear program (whether because they want nukes or they want their regional enemies to think so) and the result can only be other countries like Saudi doing the same.
No they haven't.
They have been under constant inspection by the IAEA and have been found to be holding to the terms of the NPT.
 

basketcase

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No they haven't.
They have been under constant inspection by the IAEA and have been found to be holding to the terms of the NPT.
Are you denying the deal was put into force because Iran was well on their way to 25,000 centrifuges for one civilian reactor? Are you denying that the UN (and the world at large) pushed the deal because Iran needed reining in?
 

K Douglas

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Who funds Hamas and Hezbollah?
 

Frankfooter

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Are you denying the deal was put into force because Iran was well on their way to 25,000 centrifuges for one civilian reactor? Are you denying that the UN (and the world at large) pushed the deal because Iran needed reining in?
Are you denying that Iran is an NPT signatory and abiding by the treaty, with inspections still ongoing?
 

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The deal made by Obama is an agreement to put Iran's nuclear weapons program on ice. It was not an agreement to destroy the existing work Iran has already done towards nuclear weapons. It would take roughly a year for Iran to defrost their nuclear weapons program and build a nuke.

So if Iran breaks the agreement, the US has 1 year to grab Iran by the pussy before Iran can get nukes.

In this deal no sides are happy, by that metric it was a good deal, but maybe that was the only deal that could be done because neither side has any trust in each other.
 

basketcase

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Are you denying that Iran is an NPT signatory and abiding by the treaty, with inspections still ongoing?
Are you denying that their program was found suspicious by the UN and the UN forced them to mothball the ridiculous number of centrifuges they've built?

Still you waiting for you to explain why (other than to build or pretend to build nukes) Iran was building 25,000 advanced centrifuges when the 6,000 or so 1st Gen ones they are currently allowed to use produce more than enough for their one commercial reactor?
 

basketcase

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Why are you so fixated on Iran when they are NPT signatories and abiding by the treaty?

Save your outrage for rogue nuclear states.
Why would I be commenting on Iran in a thread about Iran? Hmmm

And I see you don't want to discuss why Iran needs 25,000 or more advanced centrifuges when the 5000 basic ones they're currently allowed make more than enough fuel for their one reactor. Sorry but there is no peaceful justification for that much enrichment capacity. It is either to allow creation of nuclear weapons at short notice or to play power politics by pretending they can. The end result will be Saudi doing the same thing.

p.s. According to the UN Iran was a rogue state until the deal was forced on them and both their continued talk about increasing enrichment and their ability to make massive numbers of new centrifuges and the temporary nature of is more than enough reason.
 

basketcase

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Because their nuclear program is peaceful, as its monitored as part of the NPT.
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Thanks to the sanctions and deal the UN had to impose on them.

Why are you so afraid to answer about how Iran's continual promises to up enrichment and their possession of tens of thousands of centrifuges (when clearly 5000 early models do the job) is justified as peaceful? Sorry but the clear outcome will be a Saudi nuclear program which you claim to oppose.
 

basketcase

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Criticize rogue states that refuse to sign the NPT or have inspections at all.
So you continue to avoid criticism of theocratic and authoritarian Iran and you continue refusing to criticize dictatorial terrorists in Hamas. Two things they have in common is being fundamentalist Muslims and hatred of Jews. Which of the two resonates with you?
 

Frankfooter

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So you continue to avoid criticism of theocratic and authoritarian
There is plenty to criticize about that government, with its crackdown on dissent and authoritarian rule, but that's not what this thread is about.
This thread is about you demonizing Iran for abiding by the NPT while you excuse Israel for worse acts.
As usual.
 

basketcase

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There is plenty to criticize about that government, with its crackdown on dissent and authoritarian rule, but that's not what this thread is about.
This thread is about you demonizing Iran for abiding by the NPT while you excuse Israel for worse acts.
As usual.
So you admit that Iran is an abysmal government and the UN cracked down on their extremely suspicious nuclear program but you still can't find your way to criticizing them. What a surprise.

p.s. Saudi seems to be developing a ballistic missile program to counter Iran. How long before Saudi builds their own 25,000 centrifuges for one commercial reactor.
 

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