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2019 ATP Season .... Starts with Murray calling it a career ...

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So what will be the story of the 2019 when all is said in done ... Does Roger still have a grand slam in him ? Will Novak start will he left off in the last Grand Slam that was played ? We can pencil in Nadal for another French Open I guess we can all agree ..

Rank Player Points

1 . N. Djokovic 9135

2. R. Nadal 7480

3. R. Federer 6420

4.A. Zverev 6385

5.J. del Potro 5300
 

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We can pencil in Nadal for another French Open I guess we can all agree ..
Negatory pour mois. It will be time for some of the young guns/more physically capable of clay play to start knocking him off.
 

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The only problem is there are no young guns. The top 3 will dominate till their bodies tell them they can't. Nobody is taking over anytime soon.
 

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"Starts with Murray calling it a career ... "

Andy Murray will probably need hip replacement surgery. His career reminds me of Vitas Gerulaitis (RIP). Very good player but never top 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitas_Gerulaitis

BTW: Always carry a carbon monoxide detector when you travel and sleep in strange places. You never know.
 

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"Starts with Murray calling it a career ... "

Andy Murray will probably need hip replacement surgery. His career reminds me of Vitas Gerulaitis (RIP). Very good player but never top 3.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitas_Gerulaitis

BTW: Always carry a carbon monoxide detector when you travel and sleep in strange places. You never know.
In my mind Vitas had the most classic and textbook strokes. His style was immaculate.
 

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The only problem is there are no young guns. The top 3 will dominate till their bodies tell them they can't. Nobody is taking over anytime soon.
Based on the first couple of rounds at the Aussie Open you're spot on so far. None of the Big 3 has dropped a set yet. Will Shapo get one off the Joker tonight? I doubt it but will be puling for him.

In the meantime I don't know how Roger keeps doing it at 37 but man I am relishing it and hoping there's a Fed-Nadal semi next week!
 

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Based on the first couple of rounds at the Aussie Open you're spot on so far. None of the Big 3 has dropped a set yet. Will Shapo get one off the Joker tonight? I doubt it but will be puling for him.

In the meantime I don't know how Roger keeps doing it at 37 but man I am relishing it and hoping there's a Fed-Nadal semi next week!
Novak and Nadal are cruising along and so 2 of the top 3 we will see in the Semi's .. Stefanos Tsitsipas and Lucas Pouille are the young guns trying to knock off the the Big 3 ... Stefanos Tsitsipas maybe one of the new young guns that may challenge the top 3 ...
 

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Novak and Nadal are cruising along and so 2 of the top 3 we will see in the Semi's .. Stefanos Tsitsipas and Lucas Pouille are the young guns trying to knock off the the Big 3 ... Stefanos Tsitsipas maybe one of the new young guns that may challenge the top 3 ...
They've been head and shoulders above everyone else in this one, not even close. So much for the young guns. Should be a good final - I think Rafa will take it. He seems to have upped his game this year. Might as well declare him the French Open champion also and be done with it!
 

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For a while, the debate about the GOAT has been between Federer and Nadal, with some support by the old timers for Laver, but the way that Djokovic is going, he may surpass Federer’s goal of 20 slams, making him the GOAT.
 

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For a while, the debate about the GOAT has been between Federer and Nadal, with some support by the old timers for Laver, but the way that Djokovic is going, he may surpass Federer’s goal of 20 slams, making him the GOAT.
The Rocket. The only man to win the Grand Slam.....and he did it twice. Right before he got banned for being a pro and the year he was reinstated. He lost the best 5 years of his career which means he missed playing in approx. 20 more majors during his prime. Let's see who wins even 1 calendar Grand Slam.
 

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Very difficult to compare players of different eras. The following list is 40 years old but here it is.

"In his 1979 autobiography Kramer considered the best player ever to have been either Don Budge (for consistent play) or Ellsworth Vines (at the height of his game). The next four best were, chronologically, Bill Tilden, Fred Perry, Bobby Riggs, and Pancho Gonzales. After these six came the "second echelon" of Rod Laver, Lew Hoad, Ken Rosewall, Gottfried von Cramm, Ted Schroeder, Jack Crawford, Pancho Segura, Frank Sedgman, Tony Trabert, John Newcombe, Arthur Ashe, Stan Smith, Björn Borg, and Jimmy Connors. He felt unable to rank Henri Cochet and René Lacoste accurately but felt they were among the very best."

It should be noted that Laver did not have to compete against Rosewall, Hoad or Pancho Gonzales in his first Grand Slam in 1962.
 

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Borg retired at age 26 with 11 GS titles

By the time Federer was 26 he had 12
.................. Nadal was 26 he had 11
.................. Sampras was 26 he had 10
...................Djokovic was 26 he had 6


So you have to include Borg in the GOAT debate. We' can only speculate on how many more GS titles he would have won if he had played as long as Federer has.

Borg was a fitness freak, longevity would not have been a problem for him.

The Laver era and previous was before my time, can't really comment on them.
 

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Borg retired at age 26 with 11 GS titles

By the time Federer was 26 he had 12
.................. Nadal was 26 he had 11
.................. Sampras was 26 he had 10
...................Djokovic was 26 he had 6


So you have to include Borg in the GOAT debate. We' can only speculate on how many more GS titles he would have won if he had played as long as Federer has.

Borg was a fitness freak, longevity would not have been a problem for him.

The Laver era and previous was before my time, can't really comment on them.
I was a huge Borg fan. He would be my next after Laver/Fed or vice versa.
 

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For a while, the debate about the GOAT has been between Federer and Nadal, with some support by the old timers for Laver, but the way that Djokovic is going, he may surpass Federer’s goal of 20 slams, making him the GOAT.
Wow to think at the end of this year we will have a Era of tennis with 3 guys with 17 or more grand slams ... I am a Federer fan but Novak at this pace is scaring me . Wow if he wins the French Open he will have on 4 grand slams in a row
 

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Wow to think at the end of this year we will have a Era of tennis with 3 guys with 17 or more grand slams ... I am a Federer fan but Novak at this pace is scaring me . Wow if he wins the French Open he will have on 4 grand slams in a row
What Djokovic is doing is incredible, has won 9 GS titles after age 26, since tennis IMO is a young man's game.
 

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Guys, I looked up Borg's record and he was already on the decline when he retired. He was losing matches to Connors and McEnroe on a fairly regular basis. Maybe he still had 1 or 2 Slams left in the tank, maybe. Also, Borg never won the U.S. Open.

Back in the old days, winners of Slams seem to top out at age 30-31 (Ashe, Sampas, Agassi).
 

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Borg was mentally burnt out, not physically. At the time, he was a world wide mega star on par with rock superstars, he was mobbed every where he went.

He didn't have the luxury of a huge support staff as players have today, it was just he and Bergelin his coach.
 

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Tennis was my favorite sport.

One time I was playing a match against my friend Neil.
He hit a shot and rushed the net.
I fired the ball back and it was a rocket.
The ball hit Neil in his privates.
He dropped like a rock and was writhing on the ground.
It so happened there were two young women in the next court.
One of the women ran over to tend to Neil.
After Neil recovered we invited the women over to
our court and we played a bit of mixed doubles.
Neil went on to sire two kids so no permanent damage.

After Borg, Connors and McEnroe and before the current Big 3, there were Agassi and Sampras. I think Agassi had the better all round game and won all 4 Slams in his career.
 
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