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OnTheWayOut

But I guess nobody answered my question which is "Am I the only one who get ticked off" by this. And also, for those who accept to give this information, why do you do it? You don't care about the impact of this information being leaked? Or you don't see it as a real risk?
You probably are the only one. While I do not see girls who have extensive ID requirements, I do not begrudge them the right to do so. It's their ass (and other body parts) so whatever they feel they need to feel safe is ok with me. I choose to remain as anon as I can, there are plenty enough choices for me. I don't get ticked off, I find someone else and get laid. But I understand why some SP do this and wish them the best.

BTW, there are some exceptions made by some SP if they are a member of this or other boards and you have built up some credibility. Just sayin.
 

Alison_xox

Your little French , naughty Rmt 🩵
Aug 29, 2017
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www.Alison-xox.com
Well... I'm sorry but the one who blackmailed me asked to see me in an hotel. I unfortunately didn't know where she lived because blackmailing is also a crime!!! I understand your safety is important, but so is ours, no? Can't we reach a middle ground?

My point is not you asking, you may ask what you want! It's the men who agree to give this information than ruin it. They expose themselves and, by the same token, encourage this behavior. I am wondering why they accept this.
The question here is not «**why do guys go see sp that verify clients infos**» but more «** Why you did book with someone that could blackmail you .. Guys should do their reaserch as well and look up for reviews to see if the lady is legit , safe and actually well established .. You can put all of us in the same basket because you got a bad experience once.
I do verify my clients and none of my clients ever been in a delicate situation because of that ..
Well established knows what they are doing and they are very discreet..
Super simple .. Well established are popular , got reviews everywhere , a Terb , a rosie board and they don’t change their phone number , name and address all the time because their don’t have to hide from the bad reviews and scams warning ..
Just saying ..

Kisses
Ali
 

hoffa68

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Ok every time this topic comes up in a new thread I say the same thing. In the Ottawa area, I can count on one finger how many providers require personal information as their only screening method. Those that do require screening, most ask for references as an option.

Now I'm basing this on research I did over a year ago and the numbers may have changed but from what i have seen and heard i dont think so. Also, i myself would be hard pressed to provide references as i haven't really seen to many SPs that provide that. I saw Alison over a year ago but I did see her tweet awhile back that if you saw her she will provide that service. Anyways even without references I have seen many SPs who require no such screening.

And to answer to OPs question, no I dont get made at SPs fir doing what they want or clients who dont mind giving their personal info. There's no reason to be mad. It doesnt affect anyone, especially you.
 

Mable

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This is just like looks and rates: if you do not like what the sp is providing and/or the process, go elsewhere. She will do what she is comfortable with to protect herself, and the Hobbyist had better as well. If no match, then no match. Move on. It is all about personal choice. Some of us have a lot to lose if caught up in criminality, some no. Some have families, some not. I have a friend who was seeing a "reliable regular" (famous last words) here in Ottawa. The relationship was about a year long, and he had disclosed much of his personal information during the original screening process. Well, the relationship went sour for some reason and the sp outed him to his wife. Bingo, expensive divorce. Do what is comfortable for you boys, and for heavens sake, THINK!
 

Rainah

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This is just like looks and rates: if you do not like what the sp is providing and/or the process, go elsewhere. She will do what she is comfortable with to protect herself, and the Hobbyist had better as well. If no match, then no match. Move on. It is all about personal choice. Some of us have a lot to lose if caught up in criminality, some no. Some have families, some not. I have a friend who was seeing a "reliable regular" (famous last words) here in Ottawa. The relationship was about a year long, and he had disclosed much of his personal information during the original screening process. Well, the relationship went sour for some reason and the sp outed him to his wife. Bingo, expensive divorce. Do what is comfortable for you boys, and for heavens sake, THINK!
This echos my thoughts completely. Reasonably professional (has a website, twitter presence, nice pics, etc) is fine, but does not include
1. How professional a sp is when angry
2. That a sp will continue to have the same attitudes towards clients and security - they have your info forever now. What if they get lax over the years? What if they find jesus and decide everyone deserves to be outed? Just like a sp would not trust a reference that was years old, because people change.
3. That a sp is both resonably secure with your information (is it encrypted? Is it stored in the cloud?) AND that she will never be the target of hacking. Nothing is 100% hack proof, esp. things available to civilians.

That is why I am generally cautious. I also recognise my gender makes me less of a threat to a sp. And that we are fortunate to have better laws than the US, that reduce the danger for sp. But at the same time, it is not my place to tell someone how to screen and how to stay safe. It is their body, their rules, 100%. As Mable says, if you don't like their screening (or services, or look, or way of conducting business) then it means you're not a match. Just move on.
 

TimTech

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Those guys probably have nothing to lose or are clueless. There's no pussy in the world worth gambling my life over. I can understand in the US, the law doesn't protect SPs but it does here. It's still illegal to buy services here, so I'm not giving away any personal info until it's legal to buy.

I was once threatened by a shady agency that they would out me and post my info on facebook. Just for complaining about crappy service. Lucky for me I used a text app and didn't give any personal info. Told them to fuck off and post my info anywhere. Things can go down really bad if one is not careful. It's all fun and games until someone outs you. And let's be real, not every SP can be trusted with your info. Heck I don't even tell my friends about seeing SPs. Friends don't always stay friends. However I have shared personal info with some ladies after I got to know them well. Still think that was stupid of me to do.

Reference from other providers should suffice for a booking. Just my 2 cents.
Can you recommend a text app?
 

Alison_xox

Your little French , naughty Rmt 🩵
Aug 29, 2017
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www.Alison-xox.com
All methods of verification that are safe :

Terb handle : The lady ask for the client to pm her from his handle to verify it is really him.. (Some stupid people pretend to be members but they’re not )
Than a quick look at his posts and comments on the threads to get an idea of how he is in session. .. How long has he been active on Terb ( if he just registered and has no activity , it won’t work)

Rosie board : Same verification than Terb

Reference from an other provider : The provider MUST be well established and the phone number or email you provide should match the one on her website.. (It would be too easy to give an other number or create an email to pretend that the girl who’s texting back is the lady that refer you ) ..
Please don’t forget to ask the lady if she’s ok to refer you ( If a lady’s contacting me to get a reference for one of my clients and he didn’t give me his permission , I will NOT answer ).. THE CLIENT MUST BE THE ONE ASKING ME TO BE HIS REFERENCE FIRST..
Also some ladies are not providing references..
I do provide references ..

This is all safe ways to verify a client without intrusion in his private life..

Now if you can’t provide any of this , you always have etransfer deposit ; You clients MUST verify those things before proceeding to etransfer in order to avoid getting scammed..

1) The email she provide for etransfer match the one on her website.
2) She doesn’t change her name or phone number all the time ..
3) She’s active on review boards
4) She have good reviews
5) She’s well established

A well established provider won’t jeopardize a well built reputation over a 50$ deposit . It would be crazy ..

Kisses
Ali
 

Alison_xox

Your little French , naughty Rmt 🩵
Aug 29, 2017
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Ottawa
www.Alison-xox.com
Pros to screen clients :
- You work in a safe environment
- You don’t have no show or last min cancellations
- You get way less stupid texts from people that just want to waste your time
- You don’t mess up your bookings with people that are not serious
- No fake bookings

Cons
- Some clients will chose to book someone that doesn’t require screening

So to me the pros list is longer , safer and save me from a lot of wasted time ..

Kisses
Ali
 

Respect1

Boudoir
Aug 15, 2016
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Pros to screen clients :
- You work in a safe environment
- You don’t have no show or last min cancellations
- You get way less stupid texts from people that just want to waste your time
- You don’t mess up your bookings with people that are not serious
- No fake bookings

Cons
- Some clients will chose to book someone that doesn’t require screening

So to me the pros list is longer , safer and save me from a lot of wasted time ..

Kisses
Ali
Your screening was painless

Your strap on hurt more


lol,, JK,, maybe
 

Kawailuvr

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I used to be ticked off by it, but then an SP I have quite a good relationship with (that didn't really screen) got beaten up by a first time client that happened to be psycho and practically held hostage for a few hours. Now, I can fully understand why girls do this, their lives are at stake here. There are plenty of girls that don't screen, if you have an issue with strict screening requirements, go see these girls.
So the part of this that makes me laugh is she got beat up ( which is awful and terrible ) but than she continues in this work and now she screens lol
If I was an SP I would be screening as much as possible and doing whatever I have to do to protect myself
The problem I have is imho I feel many of the women in this business are not professional and should not be trusted , not all are the same just as not all men are time wasters and crazy .
In the end I say use a reputable agency or a MP many whores in there these days .
And if you don’t want to give info just don’t see hookers ,, or I’m sorry courtesans lol
 

StillROAMing

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Disclaimer: I use a Burner but this isn't intended to be condescending in any way shape or form.

We have all heard of issues with Text Apps. They can send and receive messages late and this has been posted by providers and clients time and again. Not everyone has encountered this issue, not yet, but the odds of being Ghosted or providers thinking you are a No-Show is greatly increased when both are using a Text App and no, I'm not suggesting all No-Shows and being Ghosted have to do with Text Apps but why take the chance of wasting your time and being frustrated. Viewing PC's poll and seeing 50% of us use Text Apps really surprised me and even more so that some actually use their personal cell phones.

Two solutions, get a Burner Phone or a dual sim card phone. A Burner can be activated anonymously online with companies like Chatr and for a dual sim card phone one can simply remove the second sim card and hide it in a corner of a wallet and reinsert it when it is to be used. If you can hide this hobby from an SO you can hide a Burner or a sim card.
 

StillROAMing

The Big "O"
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The Number 1 is placed before your telephone number. Also, the pool of phone numbers you get are recognizable to belonging to the service:

1 613-666-9999 NOT 613-666-9999
I think for most text app numbers the number 1 only shows when calling but not when texting.

They search the number online and if it shows up as the provider company being Iristel Inc. or something similar they know it's a text app number.
Real numbers will show the provider company being Rogers, Bell or any other major phone company.
 

TFZL1

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Am I the only one who gets ticked off by all these SPs asking for your professional internet website, email address and other personal information and verifying it? One even asked me for my credit card number! In case I didn't pay or it was counterfeit money... No kidding!

I'm worried about how they process, keep and protect this information. I mean, if sites like Ashley Madisson get hacked, can you imagine how easy it is to hack any of our favorite SPs and put their client list on the web? Not to talk about Law Enforcement.... This also opens the door wide open to blackmailing, which happened to me, so I really resent this. And if they do it and get away with it, it's because their clients agree to yield, and I wonder why we do this instead of seeing legit and good SPs who don't.

I mean, they don't want to share THEIR personal information with us, what's the deal, when we are doing something deemed criminal in this country, to provide them with proof we did it!!! The probability of getting in trouble may be slim, but the impact of being caught and finding yourself with a criminal record and on the list of sex offenders is incredible!!!
You don’t have to give any info you don’t want too. You can move on and find another provider. I usually give references instead, it the very few times I gave real info it was no problem. She didnt use any of it against me, no blackmail, no extortion. But I’m not running to mayor, so I don’t have much to hide.
 

Jasmine Raine

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Woah hold a minute Lea, how many providers are actually working from thier real home? I know you are a little bias but I think more then 80% of providers don't actually give out thier real address. Anybody have stats on that?
There are quite a few who do. I work from home.

I know many use hotels as well but for me, I need to be a little extra cautions.

I prefer name, non app phone number, SP reference and Social media/board account.

In return, you have my actual real address which will give you everything about me including my real name and even my mainstream business info if you look hard enough.

I feel I give as equally as I ask. I also don't hold info. I travel state side quite a bit, so I clear my phone and laptop all the time.


How do they know?
Carrier look ups. If it not Rogers/Bell etc, we know it is an app.
 

Humble.vicky

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Guys
I am new to canada and this industry....i see many sp ads showing phone numbers to contact them. If we should not expose our personal details to them then how can we text from our phones to them? Even a phonr number and texts from our phones is an exposure of personal details to them....
Vicky
 

hoffa68

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I am new to canada and this industry....i see many sp ads showing phone numbers to contact them. If we should not expose our personal details to them then how can we text from our phones to them? Even a phonr number and texts from our phones is an exposure of personal details to them....
Vicky
I have always used a text app or Twitter and have had no issues. I'm not sure if I have enough known willing providers who will give me a reference but i think I have a few. Just never asked as I haven't had to provide this. That's only saying that I haven't hobbied enough to see those who require this info or care about the text app.
 

Humble.vicky

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Not confortable in sharing phonr nunber, linkdin profle, driving license..as asked by one of the.SPs..so just ignoted it...sharing all these details would not make me.confortable to have any next steps either...
 

squeezer

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I never have given any personal info and never will. I've never had an issue finding a lady to enjoy an hour or two with.
 
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