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Stephen Harper says ‘a smart Canadian PM’ finds a way to get along with Trump

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January 9, 2019 6:48 pm

Stephen Harper says ‘a smart Canadian PM’ finds a way to get along with Trump

By Rahul Kalvapalle
National Online Journalist
Global News

Former prime minister Stephen Harper says Canadian leaders have to find a way to get along with U.S. President Donald Trump because of Canada’s “overwhelming” dependence on the U.S. as an economic and geopolitical partner.

Harper made his remarks during a panel session with former British prime minister Tony Blair at the Raisina Dialogue, a geopolitical summit held in New Delhi and sponsored by the Indian government, on Tuesday.

“Every year, I would go to New York on business and [Trump] was on a list of people that asked to meet me but we never actually met,” Harper said when asked about his impressions of Trump. “But I know many of the people around him, I think I’ve got a pretty good picture.”

Without mentioning Prime Minister Justin Trudeau by name, Harper said he believes it’s important that “a smart Canadian prime minister” gets a few things right when dealing with the American president.

“First of all, he establishes — to the best of his ability — a good personal relationship with the president of the United States, regardless of that president’s personality or political party,” said Harper.

“Secondly, a smart prime minister of Canada — because we can often be off the radar in Washington — goes out of his way to show when we are onside with the United States how we can be a useful partner in furthering the United States’ global role because that’s ultimately in our interests.

“If you do those two things correctly, that is the basis on which you can then respectfully disagree when you need to.”

Trump and some of his aides have hurled insults at Trudeau during testy trade talks over the past year.

Following the G7 summit last summer, Trump described Trudeau’s behaviour as “meek and mild” and accused Trudeau of making “false statements” at a press conference.

In the days that followed, Trump’s economic advisor Larry Kudlow told CNN that Trudeau “stabbed us in the back,” while trade advisor Peter Navarro told Fox News that there’s a “special place in hell” for Trudeau, who he accused of engaging in “bad-faith diplomacy.”

Trump has occasionally used Trudeau’s first name derisively, slamming “Justin” in a series of tweets in the wake of the G7 summit.

In November, Trudeau used a press conference with Trump to encourage “Donald” to drop tariffs on steel and aluminum.

Harper said at the summit that the majority of Canada’s trade is with the U.S. while Canada’s “security and values interests” are linked to America’s, making it important for the two countries to maintain a strong relationship.

The Conservative former prime minister also met with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, and presented Modi with a copy of his new book.

The pair “exchanged views on developments in India-Canada relations, main global trends and cooperation among democracies,” Modi’s office said in a statement.

Harper also heaped praise on “my friend” Modi, calling him “the most significant leader of India since Independence.”

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The most significant leader of India since Independence, my friend @narendramodi is shaping every conversation on geopolitics & the global economy. For India to realize its potential, it needs the courageous & visionary leadership of Prime Minister Modi. Proud to stand with him.

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Former PM of Canada, Mr. @stephenharper met Prime Minister @narendramodi.

The two leaders exchanged views on developments in India-Canada relations, main global trends and cooperation among democracies.

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Harper’s visit to India comes three months after Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer’s trip to the South Asian country, which Scheer said he used to pitch Canadian oil and foreign policy cooperation to Modi.

It also comes less than a year after Trudeau’s troubled state visit to India.

Trudeau’s trip was marred by the invitation of convicted attempted murderer Jaspal Atwal to official events, with the National Security and Intelligence Committee issuing a report last month blaming several failings in the government’s vetting system for guest lists on foreign visits.

Security sources told Global News’ Ottawa bureau chief Mercedes Stephenson that they believed the Prime Minister’s Office redacted the report to try and transfer the blame for security lapses to the RCMP, CSIS and other intelligence agencies.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4831917/stephen-harper-trudeau-trump/
 

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If Harpo was such a smart Prime Minister, he would still be Prime Minister today, which he isn’t, so he should just fuck off.

And he would have most likely found a way to get along with Trump by being his Lapdog. Who knows what a Conservative renegotiated NAFTA would look like.
 

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Yes, just ask Harper how to get along with a US President. "It's a no-brainer" and "he won't take no for an answer". That's why he was able to get Keystone approved. Oh, wait a sec - no, he didn't...

It's bad enough that Harper did his best as an ex-PM to undermine his own country - including travelling to the US to meet with Larry Kudlow back in July. If Harper were re-negotiating NAFTA he would have caved as soon as Trump threatened.
 

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If Harpo was such a smart Prime Minister, he would still be Prime Minister today, which he isn’t, so he should just fuck off.

And he would have most likely found a way to get along with Trump by being his Lapdog. Who knows what a Conservative renegotiated NAFTA would look like.
What a ridiculous comment. Harper could be Mensa and he still wouldn't have won in 2015. He was vilified by the media who simultaneously fawned over Trudeau who simply rode the coat tails of his father. He's as dumb as rocks. If he gets re-elected this country is a lost cause.
 

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What a ridiculous comment. Harper could be Mensa and he still wouldn't have won in 2016. He was vilified by the media who simultaneously fawned over Trudeau who simply rode the coat tails of his father. He's as dumb as rocks. If he gets re-elected this country is a lost cause.
It is more like the Canadians wanted a change and whoever was the Liberal leader would have got elected and nothing to do whether he was the son Of Trudeau. Trudeau has done well and will get a second term as the alternative is a lost cause.

So are you saying that Dumb DOFO also got elected on the tails of his brother?? He is the Dumbest Premier as per his debates and hopefully he will not get re-elected!!
 

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It is more like the Canadians wanted a change and whoever was the Liberal leader would have got elected and nothing to do whether he was the son Of Trudeau. Trudeau has done well and will get a second term as the alternative is a lost cause.

So are you saying that Dumb DOFO also got elected on the tails of his brother?? He is the Dumbest Premier as per his debates and hopefully he will not get re-elected!!
Doug Ford got elected because the electorate had enough of 15 years of Liberal mismanagement and corruption.
 

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What a ridiculous comment. Harper could be Mensa and he still wouldn't have won in 2015. He was vilified by the media who simultaneously fawned over Trudeau who simply rode the coat tails of his father. He's as dumb as rocks. If he gets re-elected this country is a lost cause.
The problem was, Harper THOUGHT he was Mensa when he was really just a guy who dropped out of U of T then took almost decade to get his Masters at what was then a second rate University. The “economist” who campaigned in 2008 that Canada was going to miss the downturn and promised via his Finance Minister that there would be “no deficit on my watch”. A guy who had to be dragged, kicking and screaming to admit there was a problem and who emerged from prorogue with a huge, bloated, and unaccountable taxpayer funded scheme to buy his way to a majority - using the “Action Plan” like a slush fund.

Harper stayed in power because there was literally no viable alternative. Dion, Iggy were jokes leading an underfunded shell of a party that was not even official opposition after 2011. So as much as you can dismiss Trudeau, he did take a third party to majority on his first try gaining votes from the well funded CPC (who campaigned 24/7/365 using our tax dollars) and the NDP. IF Harper were any good, or even 1/2 as smart as he and his idiot fans believed, he would be enjoying his second majority, or governing a minority at worst. But Harper was really a total incompetent and simply the beneficiary of political circumstance which gave him that foot in the door in 2006. Without Adscam, Harper is a footnote. Harper’s incompetence finally caught up with him in 2015.

Blame Harper for Trudeau.
 

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It is more like the Canadians wanted a change and whoever was the Liberal leader would have got elected and nothing to do whether he was the son Of Trudeau. Trudeau has done well and will get a second term as the alternative is a lost cause.

So are you saying that Dumb DOFO also got elected on the tails of his brother?? He is the Dumbest Premier as per his debates and hopefully he will not get re-elected!!
I agree with you Canada wanted a change from Harper and voted for Trudeau. When we had this debate about Ontario i said Wynne lost because Ontario wanted a change and you said no it was because of attacks by right wing media, Harper was attacked relentlessly by the media, did he lose because of that or because Canada wanted a change?
 

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I agree with you Canada wanted a change from Harper and voted for Trudeau. When we had this debate about Ontario i said Wynne lost because Ontario wanted a change and you said no it was because of attacks by right wing media, Harper was attacked relentlessly by the media, did he lose because of that or because Canada wanted a change?

Again, it's a figment of your imagination that Harper was attacked by the media anymore than any previous leader. First of all the media gave Harper his opportunity by doing their job with the Chretien Liberals - exposing Adscam, and resulting in Harper's first minority. The NP, and the Sun, loved the guy. SunTV was launched because of Harper's win - the station failed because of what passes for "Conservative" these days - idiots who think calling themselves "Conservative" is enough but appeal to the lowest common denominator and can'r run a business. Look up Kory Teneycke. Harper and his fans would whine 24/7 when the media held his feet to the fire. The guy was an incompetent, cowardly whiner.
 

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Again, it's a figment of your imagination that Harper was attacked by the media anymore than any previous leader. First of all the media gave Harper his opportunity by doing their job with the Chretien Liberals - exposing Adscam, and resulting in Harper's first minority. The NP, and the Sun, loved the guy. SunTV was launched because of Harper's win - the station failed because of what passes for "Conservative" these days - idiots who think calling themselves "Conservative" is enough but appeal to the lowest common denominator and can'r run a business. Look up Kory Teneycke. Harper and his fans would whine 24/7 when the media held his feet to the fire. The guy was an incompetent, cowardly whiner.
My point was they were both attacked by various segments of the media, Wynne and Harper, and I didn't say he was attacked more than any other leader, every leader is attacked relentlessly by the media opposing that party. I posed this question to Bver because he said Wynne lost the election because of media attacks against her and not because Ontario wanted a change but then states Harper lost because Canada wanted a change. I agree with I didn't think Harper was a good PM and I voted for Trudeau. I might regret that decision in the end but I thought it was time for Harper to go.
 

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So he passed up many opportunities to meet with the future President of the USA and he has the nerve to criticise anyone. OMG what a dickhead. Probably some of Trumps wrath against Canada is directed at that dickheaded former PM that refused to meet with him. Trudeau was able to obtain a better deal then ANYTHING Harpo could have obtained, plus we may end up reverting to the current NAFTA rules if the Dems decide to fuck Trump.
 

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So he passed up many opportunities to meet with the future President of the USA and he has the nerve to criticise anyone. OMG what a dickhead. Probably some of Trumps wrath against Canada is directed at that dickheaded former PM that refused to meet with him. Trudeau was able to obtain a better deal then ANYTHING Harpo could have obtained, plus we may end up reverting to the current NAFTA rules if the Dems decide to fuck Trump.

.....I’m sure that’s what it was, not that Trudeau is a fucking imbecile. Give your head a good shake, Trudeau has pissed off almost every world leader he’s met with his ideological bullshit. Goes to China and lectures them on gender and labour standards only to have them rebuke him and send him on his way, same in India, Philippines, and Vietnam. He went to the TPP talks and thought he was the center of attention and pissed everyone off with his grand standing. This guy is a complete joke as a leader and his dressup tour of India only proves it.
 

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I agree with you Canada wanted a change from Harper and voted for Trudeau. When we had this debate about Ontario i said Wynne lost because Ontario wanted a change and you said no it was because of attacks by right wing media, Harper was attacked relentlessly by the media, did he lose because of that or because Canada wanted a change?
You just twist and turn everything. Yes, the Ontarians wanted change and I did not say no did not want change, but it was after the unprecedented constant attacks by the far right media like The Rebel, online Ontario Proud as well as The Sun. That is why she went from second in the polls to a pathetic low popularity, as many voters then switched to the NDP. This is what I stated. Harper did not get such attacks to that scale or online by any media, and lost out on the debates versus Trudeau. Remember Trudeau started the campaign and was trailing in third place prior to the debates. Even the right wingers on this board were confident that he did not have a chance of winning, especially with Harper leading in the polls at the start of that campaign.
 

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You just twist and turn everything. Yes, the Ontarians wanted change and I did not say no did not want change, but it was after the unprecedented constant attacks by the far right media like The Rebel, online Ontario Proud as well as The Sun. That is why she went from second in the polls to a pathetic low popularity, as many voters then switched to the NDP. This is what I stated. Harper did not get such attacks to that scale or online by any media, and lost out on the debates versus Trudeau. Remember Trudeau started the campaign and was trailing in third place prior to the debates. Even the right wingers on this board were confident that he did not have a chance of winning, especially with Harper leading in the polls at the start of that campaign.
How did I twist and turn everything? you just said AGAIN she got crushed because of relentless attacks by the media. Don't forget Harper was dealing with the national media not just a provincial one, and I wouldn't call attacks on her unprecedented, Do you have any statistics to prove that?
 

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So he passed up many opportunities to meet with the future President of the USA and he has the nerve to criticise anyone. OMG what a dickhead. Probably some of Trumps wrath against Canada is directed at that dickheaded former PM that refused to meet with him. Trudeau was able to obtain a better deal then ANYTHING Harpo could have obtained, plus we may end up reverting to the current NAFTA rules if the Dems decide to fuck Trump.
The Liberal Government really played that winning card till the very end, and then Trump knew that any deal without Canada had virtually zero chance of passing the Congress. Even this new USMCA deal seems to be in tethers at the moment, so much so that this Grassley dude is on edge when he advises Trump to cancel NAFTA if USMCA is thrown out of the window by the Democrats:

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ack-out-of-nafta-if-dems-block-new-trade-deal

The Democrats have always been the strongest ally of Canada unlike this Trump idiot who only wants a trade war with Canada and all the other NATO / EU Allies. He would have roasted Harper who would have conceded long time ago to a much weaker trade deal for Canada. After all Trump would not give a damn if it was the Conservatives or Liberals in power!!
 

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How did I twist and turn everything? you just said AGAIN she got crushed because of relentless attacks by the media. Don't forget Harper was dealing with the national media not just a provincial one, and I wouldn't call attacks on her unprecedented, Do you have any statistics to prove that?
Listen I said that Ontarians wanted change just like Harper. They re-elected her over Hudak who was leading in the polls at one time. Her popularity dropped after constant attacks by the far right Rebel and Ontario Proud Online as well as The Sun and National Post as far as the right wing news media were concerned. I posted all that you asked for then, and once again you are asking for the same damn data over and over again. You then call yourself neither right nor left wing but I have yet to see you getting into constant arguments with the right wingers. Just tiring debating the same thing with you!!
 

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Listen I said that Ontarians wanted change just like Harper. They re-elected her over Hudak who was leading in the polls at one time. Her popularity dropped after constant attacks by the far right Rebel and Ontario Proud Online as well as The Sun and National Post as far as the right wing news media were concerned. I posted all that you asked for then, and once again you are asking for the same damn data over and over again. You then call yourself neither right nor left wing but I have yet to see you getting into constant arguments with the right wingers. Just tiring debating the same thing with you!!
Because you keep making excuses for why Liberals lose that aren't true, and keep citing polls that ended up always being wrong. I have yet to hear you cite a poll that was right, It seems like you think only Liberals are affected by media bias. I'm sorry if you feel that i'm attacking you that's not my intention, from your argument it seemed like you were blaming Wynne's loss on the media but Harper's loss had nothing to do with the media against him. Leaders of both parties have detractors to deal with on either side, it's their job to deal with it. Doug Ford had to deal with media outlets that were against him, not to mention his brother's legacy. Every candidate has to deal with negativity against them. You said she was 2nd in the polls until the media started attacking her, so in fact what your saying is that independent and Liberal voters were swayed so much by right wing media it caused the Liberals to lose party status? I really disagree with you on that point. I also made posts in other threads condemning Bernier, Trump jr the calls to kill Trudeau, you may seem to think I only attack left but I don't I attack right as well
 
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