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Palestinians didn't get a chance to reject Partition, ???.
You rally like to make up facts. The Palestinian leader (The Grand Mufti and Nazi supporter Amin al-Husseini) rejected Partition and any Jewish presence in the region. He also led riots against ancient Jewish populations in both Hebron and Jerusalem as far back as 1919. In fact the move to Partition was due to the "Arab Revolt" he led in the 30's since he made it clear that co-existence wasn't an option (which is exactly the same view that Hamas and Fatah's armed wing still believe).

Like you he rejected not only the idea of a state where Jews had rights but was violently engaged in attacks on any Jew in the region. So did the Arab Leadership in Damascus, Cairo, and everywhere else.


And I still wonder why you promote the UN Mandate even though it defines Israel as "The Jewish State". Actually that's wrong. I know why and it has nothing to do with support of human rights.
 

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You rally like to make up facts.
For Zionists, the ‘two state solution’ has always meant more ethnic cleansing
Israel/Palestine
https://mondoweiss.net/2018/10/zionists-solution-cleansing/

The two state solution would have been great had Israel accepted it instead of continually trying to take more of Palestine.
Now you're stuck with the one state, apartheid solution.

Which is why this is your new norm.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...z-in-hague-over-2014-gaza-operation-1.6897390
 

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I love how you respond to bullshit claims by posting even more fringe bullshit. You've been factually proven wrong on every point but instead of admitting it or slithering away you just try to cover your bullshit with more bullshit. See the extents your racial bias drive you to?


p.s. For most people it would be embarrassing to support a group like Hamas that is openly opposed to a permanent peace while blaming someone else for not offering peace enough times. Fact is one side has continually agreed to or offered peace deals and one side that constantly rejects it.
 

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Fact is one side has continually agreed to or offered peace deals and one side that constantly rejects it.
What was it you said?
Oh yeah:
I love how you respond to bullshit claims by posting even more fringe bullshit.
The closest you could ever show to a peace deal was written on a napkin.
Instead, its just more colonization.
Israel's settlement population growing rapidly amid staunch US support, says settler group
Population of Israeli settlements in occupied West Bank, not including East Jerusalem, said to increase by 3.3 percent in 2018
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/...ly-amid-staunch-us-support-says-settler-group

You still say you support the two state solution out of one side of your mouth while at the same time saying that colonization through settlements isn't a problem.
 

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What was it you said?....
What I said are facts.

The Arab leaders rejected partition (and the Peel Commission) and are only now beginning to accept that Israel exists.
The UN Defined Israel as a Jewish State yet you somehow promote that plan while rejecting what the UN actually said.
Anti-Jewish terrorism (as led by Palestinians leaders) pre-dated any Jewish anti-Arab terrorism by a long way.
Israel has accepted every international peace plan while the Palestinians have continuously rejected them.
Israel has made peace offers which meet everything the world thinks is fair yet Abbas walked without even a counter-offer and Hamas is wholly against the concept.
Hamas and Fatah's armed wing still reject the idea of peace with Israel or even a noticeable Jewish presence in the region yet you still support them.
You claim to support equal rights but still claim in that equality Jews shouldn't have equal rights.
You continuously justify acts of terrorism and war crimes from Hamas while claiming to support peace.


Sorry but you and facts are like oil and water.
 

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What I said are facts.
Nonsense.
https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/israel-jewish-white-supremacist-state-190207100801951.html

What you post are colonial, racist views meant to justify apartheid and war crimes.

As the ICC notes in its investigations into war crimes:
[QUOTEince 1967, the information available suggests that the Israeli civilian presence in
the West Bank and East Jerusalem has reportedly grown to nearly 600,000
settlers, living in 137 settlements officially recognised by the Israeli authorities,
including 12 large Israeli ‘neighbourhoods’ in the eastern part of Jerusalem, and
some 100 unauthorised settlements or ‘outposts’.[/QUOTE]

https://www.icc-cpi.int/itemsDocuments/181205-rep-otp-PE-ENG.pdf
 

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I love how you post a Al Jazeera op-ed as if it is some kind of proof. I also notice you didn't even bother trying to argue against any of my statements.

Sorry but your racist double standard against Israel is clearly evident every time you make excuses for groups like Hamas. I'm glad that unlike you, Canada actually supports human rights and considers Hamas the terrorists they are.
 

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I love how you post a Al Jazeera op-ed as if it is some kind of proof. I also notice you didn't even bother trying to argue against any of my statements.

Sorry but your racist double standard against Israel is clearly evident every time you make excuses for groups like Hamas. I'm glad that unlike you, Canada actually supports human rights and considers Hamas the terrorists they are.
You keep saying I make excuses for Hamas, but that never happened.
Instead you keep excusing Israeli actions like the killing of about 300 protesters by sniper fire this past year.

Your racist double standard is shown by your constant lying and demonizing about Hamas as a way to demonize all Palestinians and justify shooting them, locking them away in the world's largest open air prison and ruling them by apartheid.
Nothing you've accused Hamas of is anywhere near that evil.

Support both sides being investigated, as I do.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/itemsDocuments/181205-rep-otp-PE-ENG.pdf

(by the way, I don't care shit about Hamas. Please list all the crimes you think they've committed and I'll support investigations the same way I support investigations into crimes by Israel reported by Amnesty, HRW and other human rights organizations)
 

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You keep saying I make excuses for Hamas, but that never happened....
And once again you deny reality.

Hamas fired hundreds of war crime rockets and instead of criticizing them yo8u blamed Israel for trying to install some cameras.
Hamas launched a couple attacks on civilians at bus stops and instead of criticizing them you chose to focus on the fact they were Jews in the West Bank (so much for your equal rights claims).

Your "both sides" is obviously a fraud especially since no investigation of Hamas is needed since they proudly take credit for their terrorism and war crimes (which you don't actually criticize them for).



p.s. Hamas is not a race and I live in a country that defines them as a terrorist entity. Does Canada have a racist double standard as well?

You are the one who continually avoids discussing Hamas' religious fundamentalism (which you claim to hate) their overt racism (which you claim to be against), their policy of ethnic cleansing (which you ridiculously claim Israel is doing), and their complete rejection of a permanent peace with Israel (which you claim is your goal).
 

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And once again you deny reality.

Hamas fired hundreds of war crime rockets and instead of criticizing them yo8u blamed Israel for trying to install some cameras.
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You are denying reality by claiming that an Israeli covert operation into Gaza was Israel just 'trying to install some cameras'.
You are the one making excuses for killings.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/itemsDocuments/181205-rep-otp-PE-ENG.pdf

As that ICC report notes, Israel killed nearly 300 civilian protesters and injured thousands by sniper fire.
Yet you still claim that Hamas is the violent side.

You are a fraud.
 

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You are denying reality by claiming that an Israeli covert operation into Gaza was Israel just 'trying to install some cameras'.....
And look at you finding excuses to avoid criticizing Hamas.

And sorry but even Hamas says the Israelis were installing surveillance equipment. Hamas admits their response was firing hundreds of unguided projectiles at civilian populations. The rights groups you pretend to support say that is a war crime yet all you do is look for reasons to justify it.

And I see you refuse to even discuss Hamas gunning down civilians at bus stops even though those rights groups call it terrorism and Hamas claimed credit.


I'm happy to stick with Canada's official stance that Hamas are terrorists and the PM's view that your stance is racist.
 

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And look at you finding excuses to avoid criticizing Hamas.

And sorry but even Hamas says the Israelis were installing surveillance equipment.
Here you are avoiding criticizing Israel for starting a covert action in Gaza that killed ceasefire talks with Hamas and started the cycle of violence again.
Your excusing of Israeli violence is relentless and discusting.

I'll happily back Canadian values of equal rights for all and the application of international law through the ICC.
You, however, are trying to blame Hamas for responding to Israeli interventions.

Meanwhile, Israel killed two more teens who were protesting, while injuring another 100.
http://imemc.org/article/pchr-weekl...tinian-territory-31-january-06-february-2019/

Democracies don't shoot their citizens.
 

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UNICEF has a simple message to Israel.

Stop fucking shooting children in the head!

UNICEF said in a statement, “UNICEF is deeply saddened by the killing of two children, aged 13 and 17 years old, shot yesterday in the Gaza Strip. This brings the number of Palestinian children killed this year to four.”

The statement stressed, “This is another stark reminder of the significant violence that children in the State of Palestine continue to endure. As we mark 30 years since the Convention on the Rights of the Child, it is essential that the fundamental rights of children be respected.”

“It is time that violence against children ends. For years, children in the State of Palestine and Israel have suffered not only physically but have also borne the brunt emotionally.”

UNICEF added, “Children are children. They must be protected at all times. Children should never be a target. Nor should they be exposed to any form of violence, by any party.”
https://www.juancole.com/2019/02/violence-palestinian-children.html
 

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Here you are avoiding criticizing Israel for starting a covert action...
Holy shit. Are you seriously complaining about some cameras while refusing to condemn the Hamas war crimes? Do you ever read your posts and think about how it makes you look? You can also lie all you want but Hamas has never been involved in peace talks, only in discussions to reduce their terrorism.


And Hamas has admitted their guilt. Why do you still refuse to condemn them? At the same time you have no issue condemning anything Israel does without any investigation.



p.s. Why is it you call out Israel for shooting people in a violent riot but refuse to condemn Hamas for intentionally shooting up bus stops full of civilians?
 

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Holy shit. Are you seriously complaining about some cameras while refusing to condemn the Hamas war crimes?
Holy shit, are you saying that the killing of 8 people in Gaza was no big deal because they were just 'installing cameras'?
Eight killed in covert Israeli action in Gaza

I know you devalue and dehumanize Palestinians daily, as you demonize them, but actively stating that its 'no big deal' that 8 people died as a direct result of 'covert cameras being installed' is really disgusting.
Have you no shame?
 

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Holy shit, are you saying that the killing of 8 people in Gaza was no big deal because they were just 'installing cameras'?...
Lets see. You want to criticize Israel for a gun battle between Israeli and Hamas troops yet you don't want to criticize Hamas for their war crime response and you definitely don't want to even discuss Hamas gunning down civilians at bus stops.


Your racist double-standard is exactly what Trudeau called out as anti-semitism.
 

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Lets see. You want to criticize Israel for a gun battle between Israeli and Hamas troops .
A gun battle?
You said they were just installing cameras?

Why were they shooting so many Palestinians while they installed cameras?
Why did you just call this 'installing cameras' when 8 people died?

Why do you continue to dehumanize Palestinians to the point where you pretend that Israel didn't kill them 'installing cameras'?

What next, are you going to say that Israel shot 300 Palestinians protesting because Israel was just trying to fix their prison walls with guns?
 

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A gun battle?...
And more of your fraud. Try reading the news. Even Hamas says that they saw the Israelis, chased them and had a running gun battle. The 7 dead Palestinians were not civilians but Gaza military who engaged the Israeli troops. Once again you try to claim Hamas fighters (and a dead Israeli who was the 8th mentioned in reports) as innocent victims.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46174912


Of course instead of actually condemning Hamas for the war crime rockets you are just looking for reasons to talk shit about Israel.


Also worth mentioning is that while 7 Hamas fighters being killed in action bothers you you are absolutely silent about Hamas proudly taking credit and celebrating gunning down dozens of civilians at bus stops.
 

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And more of your fraud. Try reading the news. Even Hamas says that they saw the Israelis, chased them and had a running gun battle.
But you said they were just installing cameras.
Why would Israelis installing cameras in Gaza need guns if all they were doing was installing cameras?

Why do you refuse to criticize these 'camera installers' for starting a gun battle that left 8 people dead?

Why do you keep justifying killing Palestinians as only 'installing cameras'?
That's disgusting.
 

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But you said they were just installing cameras.....
Actually that's what even Hamas said. Why (other than your blatant anti-semitic views) do you think installing cameras is more worthy of criticism than the hundreds of war crimes Hamas launched as a response?


And yes, it is the same reason why you try and claim Hamas fighters (and a dead Israeli) as innocent victims of Israel when in the past you have argued that Israeli settlers are valid targets despite what rights groups say.
 
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