Why men do not approach women.

Jasmine Raine · Jan 7, 2019

bmwquay said:
Ms Rain is just a delusional hyprocrite. She's telling all women to make their own chedder. Using profanity in fact. I'm not surprised. It's a very low life to be selling ones body to make a living after all. Telling all women not to rely on the money of men yet all her money is from men. She relies on men's money more than any other woman. She certainly needs therapy.

Are you fucked?

I own a mainstream business that is successful and pays the income for other people. How is that relying on men's money. I don't want or need your money. Keep it please. LOL

And you are on a site for women who sell their bodies and you want to call them lowlifes.

I just answered my own question, yes, yes you are indeed fucked. Thanks for sharing.

deep_blue said:
I agree gentlemen, I would never consider booking this person due to her attitude alone. In addition to that, she isn't even attractive enough for pay for play.

She tries to present herself as a successful, empowered businesswoman but that is entirely negated by the fact that she has to earn "hooker" money to pad her retirement. If she was truly as successful as she passes herself off to be, she would never have to engage in the profession at all. If her main business merely "pays the bills" and if she has to sell herself to attain the balance of her financial goals, her business is not as lucrative and successful as she may portray it. Her "glass ceiling" (like those of many other women) are not imposed by men but of their own limitations. She is completely full of herself.

So because I don't want to date but I still want to get laid and can get paid for it and pad my retirement as many women do, I'm lying??? Ok, bud. Clearly, screening works. Which includes posting here. You and I would never get along so I am happy you don't want to see me. It is great!

Your attitude about the glass ceiling just shows your opinions about women as a whole. It is no wonder you can't handle a successful woman and have to protect your shitty life attitude on others.

You people make me laugh. LMAO!

Bumblaster said:
Yup, concur about Ms Rain

Was considering booking with her but I have been turned off by her seemingly caustic, bitter attitude....I'll pass. If I want bitchy I'll get a girlfriend...

Too true Smallcock, European men are Western men smh

Great! I don't want a BF either. They bitch and moan just as much. Kinda like you are here! Boo Hoo, I don't like her, I've been turned off. YAWN!

|2 /-\ | /|/ said:
Guys come on now like WTF!? This is not cool and reminds me of high school pile on mentality. Why getting personal here? This is how threads get shut down and no need for that. Let people decide for themselves and leave the judgement to each person. This is why it discourages other SPs/MPAs from making comments and thus turns terb it into a big sausage party.

Nothing she said here deserves this. You guys getting too personal for whatever personal reason and starting to attack her because you don't like that she is gaining a voice on here.

Chill da fuck out!

This is nothing. It is lowly men with woman issues. It is clear as the black and white we are typing in. I don't take offence. I love that my posts screen out men like this. I don't need their money. It does not upset me in the slightest. They can go on and on about the delusion that they impose on me, but I know the truth, my actual clients know the truth, fuck even some of the escorts here know the truth, so really WTF do I care.

But thanks for sticking up for me.

Robert Mugabe said:
Really. +1. Beat me to it. Don't pile on and personally attack anyone. This is in bad taste and completely wrong. We can all bust each other's balls in good natured disagreement, but this is unacceptable.

I'm so shocked to read this. I honestly had a different opinion about you and may have been harsher sometimes. For that, I apologize and will be sure to watch my tone in the future. Thanks for sticking up.

Scarey said:
Before this gets closed, I'd like to say I have personally been attacked by the subject of the harsh comments. She can, and has, given as good as she gets. I suspect she couldn't give two shits about anyone's words here so keep the white knighting to a minimum. Every few years there are personalities who will show up here on TERB. They tend to comment on every thread there is to be found. They usually have specific traits to them. Both physical and mental. It's marketing...little else. The "10's" rarely come on here. They don't need to drum up business. Anywho take care folks

So true. It is marketing in some sense. It is fun and games in others. I do give as good as I get and I take what I get without whiny and bitching. I'm not going to get this thread closed. Certainly not going to ask for it.

And you are right, I don't give two shits about what these people say. I don't want people around me who I don't see eye to eye with on topics of women vs men. I don't see life like that. I see all genders and assholes among both. So when one side is all about women or all about men and hating on the other side, I could give a rat's ass about their opinions. They have bigger problems then disagreeing with me if they are feeling like that.

Sophia Sinclair said:
I don't always agree with what's said here but never attack anyone, even if they throw down the gauntlet first. How one responds to such words/situations is very much a reflection on them. You should tread lightly with generalized comments like this, which pertains to all of us workers. Many of us are kind, educated women who choose this over other possible careers. I surmise that you are a hobbyist, using our services. According to your own logic, what does that make you?

Bingo!

When you are on a board about sex work and called those who work in sex work lowlifes, it is clear indication of what and who you are.

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Now having said all that, I have to get ready for work soon. Funny how most my post are in the morning, usually before 9. Hmmmm, I wonder why. Maybe because I have to go to work.

Then there are a bunch around lunch time, Hmmm I wonder why. Maybe because it is a break from work.

Oh and then there are the posts after 5pm. Again I wonder why. Say it together people - because the work day is done. LMAO

And lastly, as most know - I take off a few months a year because of my mainstream works busy season. I have actually advertised that. So a hooker advertises that she can't take bookings for like 4 months a year, but yup - totally relying on hooker money. I can't. LOL, I can't even continue with that nonsense without spitting my coffee on my keyboard from laughing so much. Posting history helps guys. LOL

Thanks for the laughs, I'm outtie.

Laters

deep_blue · Jan 7, 2019

|2 /-\ | /|/ said:
Guys come on now like WTF!? This is not cool and reminds me of high school pile on mentality. Why getting personal here? This is how threads get shut down and no need for that. Let people decide for themselves and leave the judgement to each person. This is why it discourages other SPs/MPAs from making comments and thus turns terb it into a big sausage party.

Nothing she said here deserves this. You guys getting too personal for whatever personal reason and starting to attack her because you don't like that she is gaining a voice on here.

Chill da fuck out!

***Internet White Knight Alert***

|2 /-\ | /|/ · Jan 7, 2019

deep_blue said:
***Internet White Knight Alert***

Go suck a blue board dick TROLL ....what happened did the scum of the adult world kick you out :rofl:

Sophia Sinclair · Jan 7, 2019

lagaffe said:
You're right that jumping to conclusion or pushing too much has the reverse effect on the lady. However doing what you describe makes us end in the "Friend Zone"! And then the girl leaves for the night with the SOB who has been insisting shamelessly! We've all been painfully victim of this, ending the night lonely when you know someone is having fun. We learned painfully that there is a world of difference between what a woman says she wants and what she actually does...

There has to be some level of flirt, however subtle, otherwise nothing is ever going to happen. She has to understand you are not in this for the friend zone, but that on the other hand there is no rush, you two can have fun as you also are interested in her as a person. However, this is not something men learn in school... it has to be learned by trial and, unfortunately, errors.

It certainly does not mean it has to be rude or inappropriate, but just being polite with no end goal leads you exactly there: no end goal.

Did you read my post #38?

If he had been a pushy guy he would have put himself in the realm of all the other guys who've tried to pick me up and turned me off in the process. He wasn't regaled to the "friend zone", his laid back approach separated him from the pack, which piqued my curiosity and won my respect.

Maybe because I'm a seasoned woman I'm not impressed with the SOB who shamelessly insists because I know that it usually means he's not looking for anything more than a wham, bam, thankyou ma'am. If that's what I want he's golden but if not I'm quickly headed in the other direction. I also have the advantage of knowing that some really nice guys are trepidatious about engaging with a woman and sympathize with their plight. It was a male friend who explained to me some years ago that jerks hit on everything that moves while a lot of sweet guys hold back.

My SO offered then bought me a drink, complimented me then left me alone to make up my own mind about him. If it was a situation whereby I'd never see him again I would have in turn initiated talking to him, letting him know I'm interested. If not, he'd have his answer without wasting anyone's time or making anyone uncomfortable.

I can't speak for all women but try to take what I'm saying to heart because there has to be other women like me out there.

lovetoes13 · Jan 7, 2019

Samranchoi said:
I don't approach women as I am an extremely shy person and lack confidence. I am sure many guys have to same reasons as myself. The last few women I have dated for a longer period of time, they all made the first move by introducing themselves to me. Others have introduced their friends to me. Still waiting for the next woman to make the first move:Cry:

+1, me as well

autumn96 · Jan 7, 2019

Man, the egos on this forum are really wild. You'd figure people would be more tame on an anonymous forum.

Sophia Sinclair · Jan 7, 2019

autumn96 said:
Man, the egos on this forum are really wild. You'd figure people would be more tame on an anonymous forum.

It's precisely for that reason that they behave the way they do. Anonymity makes them feel that they can say just about anything without consequence.

|2 /-\ | /|/ · Jan 7, 2019

Sophia Sinclair said:
It's precisely for that reason that they behave the way they do. Anonymity makes them feel that they can do or say just about anything without consequence.

Its a double edged sword and also brings out the truth in people. Sometimes the truth is ugly.

Euro Male · Jan 7, 2019

lagaffe said:
I'm finding as I am getting older that it is even more easy to approach a 20something than when I was their age. I have realized that there is no "competition" between us like there is with someone your age (for e.g. who has the best job). I didn't realize that most of them are interested in older men: they are generally more mature, established and already successful, rather than the guys their age being full of aspirations and promises with nothing to show yet. And at an older age (40s, 50s) we are more experienced being with and talking to women and our social skills are better, let alone our experience in bed. On my side (and I'm not saying this to brag, only to prove my point) at 51, I managed to go out with a stunning 21yo all last winter, without too much effort. Not an escort, not my sugar baby, just a good friend with benefits. I'm curious if anyone has a view about this?

Totally relate. I'm a 49 yr old guy, look closer to 39 (gobs of vitamins, herbs, oils + lifestyle + genetics). Recently 18-21 yr old cashier at the grocery-store toss'd me her digits, 22-25 yr old sexy as hell black girl at cyber-cafe was down with us hooking-up for a drink etc.

Some younger girls, sure, they might like older guys who are 'mature', 'established' etc. But other girls, cool young chicks, who are lil wild, lil trippy are into hot older dudes with lil bit of an edge, badass vibe . . . . . SEAN CONNERY 'the rock' [beginning] -- SAM ELLIOT 'roadhouse' -- KRIS KRISTOffPERSON 'blade' -- ANTHONY HOPKINS 'mask of zorro' etc.

As I'm getting older, the vibe I put out there younger girls seem to respond to . . . . I really just don't give a shit! When you're vibing with the young hot sales girl at the clothing /music store, cashier at the liquor/grocery store etc. keeping it casual, fast n' loose is the way to go. It's kinda like you're talking to them like they're a buddy (cute sexy buddy you'd like to fuck) haha. You're juicing them up about their looks, what they're wearing, hair/make-up etc. whatever. At the same time, you're talking shit to them, teasing them about them being kinda wierd, dorky etc. It's all about finding the right balance between being a dick and a cool guy they're totally down hanging with.

As much as things change, they remain the same. In jr. high-school, cute sexy girls are always into the jocks, rockers etc. Why? These guys don't act like 'fanboys', spray-shorts 'geek-boys' etc. With the hot popular girls, they're like, yeah ok, you're cute . . . . . and . . . . so . . . . whatever. No Big.

Robert Mugabe · Jan 10, 2019

update:
I approached a woman. years since I tried. In a store. She was with her obese (no offense) friend, in a clothing store. She was gorgeous. I stared. She noticed. I paid for my shit and prepared to leave. But I couldn't. I would have been kicking myself on the sidewalk if I didn't try. So I approached again. She saw me coming so she was prepared. My line was " sorry to interrupt, but you are gorgeous. I want to ask you out for a date". Her replay was." first of all, good for you for putting yourself out there, but I think I will pass". I said. "No problem. sorry to bother you".
So although it didn't result in anything. It made me feel good in a way that I didn't chicken out.At least I tried. Not a big risk really when you compare it to living in North Korea.maybe I will start trying again.

Smallcock · Jan 10, 2019

Robert Mugabe said:
update:
I approached a woman. years since I tried. In a store. She was with her obese (no offense) friend, in a clothing store. She was gorgeous. I stared. She noticed. I paid for my shit and prepared to leave. But I couldn't. I would have been kicking myself on the sidewalk if I didn't try. So I approached again. She saw me coming so she was prepared. My line was " sorry to interrupt, but you are gorgeous. I want to ask you out for a date". Her replay was." first of all, good for you for putting yourself out there, but I think I will pass". I said. "No problem. sorry to bother you".
So although it didn't result in anything. It made me feel good in a way that I didn't chicken out.At least I tried. Not a big risk really when you compare it to living in North Korea.maybe I will start trying again.

When she said "I think I'll pass", you should have replied "No problem. I was actually asking your obese friend".

Just kidding.

Asking out a woman cold like that is difficult for anyone, unless you look like an Adonis (even they'll be brushed off under the assumption that they're an egomaniac). She's heard that she's gorgeous many times before. Women tend to have to be warmed up... small light chit chat, try to get in a few laughs, and a few compliments (not so strong, more along the lines of 'You must love shopping, you dress really nicely) ... before they'll open up the possibility of a date (also I'm getting old... do people "date" anymore?). Remember, we're driven by physical attraction, and while women are too, it's to a lesser degree and they're won over by personality (friendly chat allows them to size up whether you're a potential psycho versus an affable person as well; even if you're a psycho, like I am, they never catch on if you pretend well enough). It also increases the odds of getting a real number versus a fake one, and that she'll respond if to you when you try to contact her on her real number.

I've watched "players" throughout life, and one thing they typically have in common is that they're really good shit talkers. Witty, fun, easy conversation. They're 'people persons'. If not naturally, they put on an amazing act.

Good on you, nonetheless. It's always been a numbers game and the more you do it, the more success you'll have (success rate is always in low percentages for most guys). Eventually you hit the right girl, in the right place, at the right time.

Big Rig · Jan 11, 2019

Sophia Sinclair said:
If it was a situation whereby I'd never see him again I would have in turn initiated talking to him, letting him know I'm interested. If not, he'd have his answer without wasting anyone's time or making anyone uncomfortable.

I look for signals of interest from women before I ask someone for companionship. If it evolves into something more thn companionship that is great, if not that is also fine with me.

How would you signal interest to a guy ? You imply you say it straight out. In my experience this is hardly ever done.

I have been asked if I have GF, only one reason to ask that question.

Darts · Jan 11, 2019

I was an equipment manager (aka "go-fer") for a local boys band when I attended university in Montreal. We played at private parties, birthdays, sweet 16's, weddings, etc. Women/girls would approach us all the time. Those were the good old days.

Don Draper · Jan 11, 2019

Robert Mugabe said:
update:
I approached a woman. years since I tried. In a store. She was with her obese (no offense) friend, in a clothing store. She was gorgeous. I stared. She noticed. I paid for my shit and prepared to leave. But I couldn't. I would have been kicking myself on the sidewalk if I didn't try. So I approached again. She saw me coming so she was prepared. My line was " sorry to interrupt, but you are gorgeous. I want to ask you out for a date". Her replay was." first of all, good for you for putting yourself out there, but I think I will pass". I said. "No problem. sorry to bother you".
So although it didn't result in anything. It made me feel good in a way that I didn't chicken out.At least I tried. Not a big risk really when you compare it to living in North Korea.maybe I will start trying again.

Kudos to you Robert, my esteemed colleague!!

That's how you get things done. As you said: "It made you feel good that you didn't chicken out". Most importantly: YOU HAVE NO REGRETS ABOUT THIS EPISODE!

Only thing, you have no need to use the word "sorry". You had no bad intentions. You approached out of attraction and interest. You did nothing to apologize for. Her feedback was also positive. Most men think approaching a woman and being turned down will mean getting their heads bit right off. Actually, that is very, very rarely the case.

Good to see this thread back on track. It was seriously derailing.

deep_blue · Jan 20, 2019

|2 /-\ | /|/ said:
Go suck a blue board dick TROLL ....what happened did the scum of the adult world kick you out :rofl:

^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^
***Keyboard Tough Guy Alert***

I don’t swing that way you no-reviewing pile of crap. Wonder what your wife and kids would think of you posting on adult boards multiple times of the day.

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surferboy · Jan 22, 2019

Darts said:
I was an equipment manager (aka "go-fer") for a local boys band when I attended university in Montreal. We played at private parties, birthdays, sweet 16's, weddings, etc. Women/girls would approach us all the time. Those were the good old days.

I here ya! A good friend DJ'd at a strip club while in uni & sometimes weddings. Like shooting fish in a barrel(and all the free booze at the weddings)...met his wife to be at a wedding I helped him with & Christ did she take a disliking to me for no reason

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