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Trump said the Huawei executive is a hostage in trade negotiations. Chinese can play the same game.
 

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Trump said the Huawei executive is a hostage in trade negotiations. Chinese can play the same game.
A) we're not holding her hostage and B) China has just crapped all over Trudeau and his overtures by taking two Canadian hostages. And C) Chinese leadership is clueless , amateurish and third world.
 

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A) we're not holding her hostage and B) China has just crapped all over Trudeau and his overtures by taking two Canadian hostages. And C) Chinese leadership is clueless , amateurish and third world.
Don't bring a pocket knife to a gun fight.
 

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Don't bring a pocket knife to a gun fight.
And what does that make you? At the very best you're an appologist for a third world dictatorship.
 

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And what does that make you? At the very best you're an appologist for a third world dictatorship.
Call me whatever you want. Name calling seem to be your specialty.

I do not think it is proper to take people hostage in a trade dispute.
 

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A) we're not holding her hostage and B) China has just crapped all over Trudeau and his overtures by taking two Canadian hostages. And C) Chinese leadership is clueless , amateurish and third world.
There not third world except when it comes to human rights, in everything else they are better, There leader is much smarter than our clueless leader, look at how they have advanced of the last 10-15 years, while we tread water at best
 

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With friends like these who needs enemies? China makes Canada pay for playing US lackey
Published time: 13 Dec, 2018 21:08

The wars of words between Donald Trump and Justin Trudeau may have grabbed headlines, but Canada has always remained a faithful US ally, apparently believing it's a safe bet. The strategy, however, has backfired.
Trump’s presidency has been marked by a continued row with Canada’s ‘liberal’ Trudeau, which was fueled by a US trade dispute with its Western allies and incompatible views on climate change, for example. The war of words between the two neighbors apparently culminated during the G7 summit in June.


But do not be deceived by what you see. All this time Canada actually dutifully followed the US lead and even copied some of its trendiest policies. Be it following Russophobic hysteria or making billions worth of deals with some Middle Eastern autocrats, Canada was here to march in lockstep with its powerful neighbor. Its response to the alleged murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi at the hands of Washington’s key Middle Eastern ally – the Saudis – was also conspicuously reserved, particularly for a nation that portrays itself as an adamant champion of human rights.

Now China got a taste of Ottawa’s imitation game, as Canada seemingly decided to get involved into the unfolding economic ‘Cold War’ between Washington and Beijing. Last week Canadian authorities arrested Meng Wanzhou – the Chinese telecommunications giant Huawei’s chief financial officer

And Trudeau didn’t have to wait long for them. Chinese authorities arrested two Canadians on security-related charges. Chinese consumers made the shares of Canada Goose clothing company – the second-best performer in Canada’s benchmark stock index this year – plunge by nearly 20 percent over just four days. With the legal process against Meng far from over, Trudeau might expect that there will be more to come.

Now, facing China’s rage over doing the US’ bidding, Ottawa desperately seeks to save face and avoid further politicization of an already explosive issue. On Wednesday, Canada’s Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland warned the US not to mess with the “pursuit of justice” after Trump said he could intervene in the extradition case if it benefits US trade interests with China.


However, it might be in fact too late as Canada has already backed itself into a corner. Regardless of the outcome of the legal proceedings, its relations either with Washington or Beijing are going to suffer.

With the US being its only continental neighbor, Ottawa apparently believed that catering to the interests of just one foreign state was enough. But it seems to be learning that the world is much more multipolar than it wanted to believe.
 

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Call me whatever you want. Name calling seem to be your specialty.

I do not think it is proper to take people hostage in a trade dispute.
What name did I call you, beside an appologist? And THAT is an accurate description in the light of China throwing a fit and behaving like a gangster. In what circumstances of personal integrity can anyone possibly excuse such behavior???
 

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Anyone know where the former head of Interpol is?

China has gone full on Russian thug.
 

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Anyone know where the former head of Interpol is?
China has gone full on Russian thug.
Kidnapped by China. If you're Chinese the totalitarian Beijing regime considers you nothing more than an appendage of that police state, whether you like it or not.
 

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What name did I call you, beside an appologist? And THAT is an accurate description in the light of China throwing a fit and behaving like a gangster. In what circumstances of personal integrity can anyone possibly excuse such behavior???
He's an apologist to many totalitarian thuggish regimes, as long as they're against the west (or anti American).
 

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There not third world except when it comes to human rights, in everything else they are better, There leader is much smarter than our clueless leader, look at how they have advanced of the last 10-15 years, while we tread water at best
No rule of law, no such thing as judicial independence, supreme leader, zero transparency, massive intellectual property theft from western companies, businesses that are nothing more than front ops of the Communist regime and the PLA (helps with IP theft), and never mind the smog and pollution problems...
In other words, a third world totalitarian regime, and a superpower.
 

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China is over 5000 years old. Has a population of over a billion people. It's economy is ready to surpass America before 2030. What we did was in fact an Act of War as it was completely against International Law. Not that it means anything any longer. I don't like any Government. They're all corrupt as hell. Just look into our own backyards over the last 50 years. I dare you to come up with one Federal or Provincial Government that wasn't caught up in some kind of fraud and ripoff of it's citizens. Before we start throwing stones at China, take the rose coloured glasses off and realize our leaders are corrupt and inept and have never done a single thing to improve your standard of living since the day you were born.
 

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China is over 5000 years old. Has a population of over a billion people. It's economy is ready to surpass America before 2030. What we did was in fact an Act of War as it was completely against International Law. Not that it means anything any longer. I don't like any Government. They're all corrupt as hell. Just look into our own backyards over the last 50 years. I dare you to come up with one Federal or Provincial Government that wasn't caught up in some kind of fraud and ripoff of it's citizens. Before we start throwing stones at China, take the rose coloured glasses off and realize our leaders are corrupt and inept and have never done a single thing to improve your standard of living since the day you were born.
If you wrote that in China, about China, you’d be arrested. If you could get to the internet.

See the difference.
 

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If you wrote that in China, about China, you’d be arrested. If you could get to the internet.

See the difference.
You got a point there.

Without rule of law, no way would the US legal system be able to throw Pres. Trump's lawyer into jail, along with that other guy, over charges no one understands.

:ambivalence:
 
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