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Anyone try ayahuasca ?

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I am considering a rainforest retreat where it is legal and considered a medicine

 
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I know they say you can get enlighten and change your life ....a guy I know went and came back and he was the same old prick. I heard also some people died and got burned, so its something you need to research very very carefully. But my buddy loves the area and goes back in the winter for a month or so. I think its something like acid and e's.
 

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I’d try smoking DMT before trying ayahausca since the trip only lasts like 10mins bit can be crazy intense especially if you breakthrough. If I like or am still curious then can go to ayahuasca. A lot of people get nauseous taking ayahausca and throw up then lose the intensity of the trip but end up being sick and uncomfortable through the trip. Some people have horrible trips. You need to have a knowledgable trip sitter and hopefully one with positive vibes if taking ayahausca. If you take it properly it could have life changing alterations on your perspective of being and life. I think the most humbling experience is achieving ego death where perception of your self stops to matter and temporary dies and you just become like spirit. I have been studying DMT trips for the past 3 months quite intensely just because of curiosity and am quite blown away by peoples experiences and recollections. Although personally I would probably take this when my kids get grown enough and independent in the event it changes me in any sense. In high school when I took mushrooms I believe it had a life time impact on my perspective on my spirituality and perspective. These type of psychedelics can be very powerful and healing but also can trigger mental disorders that lie dormant. Based on what I can tell to have good trips just don't fight it or try to control the trip and let it take you where and how it decides to go even if this means meeting what you perceive to be GOD and totally forget who you are and what is your name. Just accept it and know that it will be over and things should be back to normal.

Let us know how it goes
 

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it is legal in Montreal at a church called "Céu do Montréal" as it is considered a religious practice. 5 interesting points



1 They prefer to remain low profile to avoid legal harassment so they have not been in the news

2 They claim to be Christian and believe in Christ and the prophets and the Angels

3 Jeffrey Bronfman, of the rich and philanthropical Bronfman family (Seagrams whiskey) tripped on it in Brazil and has since used his influence and $ to legalize religious use in the USA and now just arrived in Canada

4 rainforest ceremonies have become very expensive and commercial. I would be very careful in trusting a jungle retreat because of these reasons.

5 you can make it yourself by ordering it on the net from places where it is legal, but if caught you go to prison and it seems like a very bad idea to be your own Shaman using drugs with bad quality control



http://santodaime.ca/legalization/




 

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Now that marijuana has been legalized in Canada, maybe you would consider engaging in an Amazon retreat at your own backyard?

Ayahuasca is legal only in a Montreal church as part of relgious ceremony. They can trip on it for religious reasons. Do it anywhere else and you are looking at prison if caught.
You have to join the church. They must be overwhelmed with requests to join.

I find it ironic that a Christian based church is the only place in Canada you can do it. Odd indeed that they get exempt so they can go visit the prophets . If you do not believe in Christ then you are disqualified from a deeply spiritual experience.
 

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Ayahuasca is legal only in a Montreal church as part of relgious ceremony. They can trip on it for religious reasons. Do it anywhere else and you are looking at prison if caught.
You have to join the church. They must be overwhelmed with requests to join.

I find it ironic that a Christian based church is the only place in Canada you can do it. Odd indeed that they get exempt so they can go visit the prophets . If you do not believe in Christ then you are disqualified from a deeply spiritual experience.
Makes me wonder if Christians see Christ and Muslims see Muhammad etc.

Assuming their is a God and ayahuasca is the door to God the obvious question is why did God make it so tricky to find him ? thereby excluding the vast majority of humans from the experience. WTF would he do that? Why is not everyone born with that vision along with answers to questions like WTF is our purpose in being here?

Very little about this drug experience makes sense and strikes me as illusionary.

But, if it opens your creative doors and gives you faith, even if that faith is not real, it sounds fascinating
 

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Yeah there are many stories and recollections of some people getting suicidial especially when ego death happens because they can’t comprehend existence without ones self image. Some people have some serious mental issues that this drug awakens and makes you confront straight on. YouTube has a ton of videos on this.

Having said all this, this drug can also be life changing and healing. It helps many drug addictions such as heroine addiction.

My take on this is that this drug can be powerful and helpful if taken properly and can reveal yourself at your deepest and truest core.

Just don’t tell people what to do lol thats the last thing they need to hear. Hopefully the OP does his research and starts slow if he never did psychedelics.

P.S. just by us talking about this could already plant seeds in OPs head and affect the trip. Place and setting including in the mind makes a huge difference.

This guy tried it. Didn't go too well for him. Maybe you shouldn't fuck around with drugs so much?
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/sebastian-woodroffe-1.4648195
 

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It would appear the vast majority have positive trips while a small minority do not.

The exact numbers are unknown as research has been surpressed by our government for some irresponsible political reason

This puts me in the position of embarking on a life changing journey that may end up badly and without knowing the risks. It is a hard call.
 

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"Inside LSD " is a very interesting doc as it interviews scientists along with stoners

It suggests you can go into a psychotic state if you are predisposed to psychosis or if you overdose because you lose a sense of self and time


Creativity is enhanced as our normal sensory filters are weakened ie: our connection of present experiences to past experience - so we see things without preconceptions

Seratonin connects nerves to brain synapsis. LSD stimulates the serotonin causing the trip



 
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Death and Rebirth...taking DMT to the extreme...freaky crazy video of people pushing it to the limit..



Very powerful
 
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