Black people 'grossly overrepresented' in violent police interactions, OHC says
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Do you have data that supports your 90% claim? of course you don't.Well, since the group who issued this report is using race, I will state the obvious. The reason that black people are experiencing physical force from the police is because they are committing 90 percent of the crime.....
And the issue isn't criminals are being stopped, it is the non-criminals being suspected of criminality based on their skin colour that is the issue.
So you are agreeing that James T is talking out of his ass. Thank you.Stats for crime by "race" aren't kept. ...
Pretty much yes. I won't use skin colour as a marker.So you are agreeing that James T is talking out of his ass. Thank you.
North American glorification of "gangsta" culture, which is preimminently coming from the black community is an issue.
But the adoption of that culture is voluntary. It isn't about DNA.
"Gangsta" rap isn't very popular anymore. You sound like Bill O'Reilly.Pretty much yes. I won't use skin colour as a marker.
North American glorification of "gangsta" culture, which is preimminently coming from the black community is an issue.
But the adoption of that culture is voluntary. It isn't about DNA.
The culture still exists. Along with the cultural attitudes that say criminality is cool."Gangsta" rap isn't very popular anymore. You sound like Bill O'Reilly.
Typical response from a guy who has no argument.Jordan Peterson is a joke.
In case you haven't noticed the TPS have eliminated carding and other proactive policies aimed at curbing criminality. The result - Toronto's highest murder rate in years.Do you have data that supports your 90% claim? of course you don't.
And the issue isn't criminals are being stopped, it is the non-criminals being suspected of criminality based on their skin colour that is the issue.
Don't forget Rock and Roll or video games on the list of things ruining the younger generation....
North American glorification of "gangsta" culture, which is preimminently coming from the black community is an issue. ....
Do you have anything other than racial pre-conception to support the connection?In case you haven't noticed the TPS have eliminated carding and other proactive policies aimed at curbing criminality. The result - Toronto's highest murder rate in years.
Would you like me to explain why I think he's a joke? I have no interest in listening to anything more with his name on it. On second thought, tell him to debate the top academics and not make excuses as to why he won't. He's starting to sound like a champion boxer who refuses to fight the best competition.Typical response from a guy who has no argument.
Toronto's 93rd murder victim is Jonathan Gayle-West (was employed by TSN). Seem like a good guy. R.I.P. Shot to death last night by unknown person(s).
Since he wasn't killed by police, doubt BLM and OHRC will get on their soapbox and start moaning and groaning.
Last week Riley Driver-Martin was found murdered in a park. Twins have been arrested. No protest so far from BLM or OHRC.
Since he wasn't killed by police, doubt BLM and OHRC will get on their soapbox and start moaning and groaning.
Last week Riley Driver-Martin was found murdered in a park. Twins have been arrested. No protest so far from BLM or OHRC.
Silly post. I see the alt-right make this argument on social media all the time.Toronto's 93rd murder victim is Jonathan Gayle-West (was employed by TSN). Seem like a good guy. R.I.P. Shot to death last night by unknown person(s).
Since he wasn't killed by police, doubt BLM and OHRC will get on their soapbox and start moaning and groaning.
Last week Riley Driver-Martin was found murdered in a park. Twins have been arrested. No protest so far from BLM or OHRC.
Police have a duty to serve and protect, not to mention they are a taxpayer funded force. There is a difference when they unjustly kill someone. This argument sounds like, black lives should be matter the same way criminals with guns value them.
Was Riley Driver-Martin black, the two brothers that allegedly killed him are not.
Do you have data that supports your 90% claim? of course you don't.
So you are agreeing that James T is talking out of his ass. Thank you.
Hmmmm
https://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/currentcases.php
So I guess all the black guys who are unfortunately on this list were killed by white guys right.
Crime is a nasty thing. I don't pretend to have the answers.
I just think it's defamatory to release a report that implies that the cops are deliberately beating on black people just for laughs. The fact of the matter is that a disproportionate number of black people commit a greater percentage of crimes and ergo are far more likely when committing said crime to end up with a negative experience with the police.
If you're committing a crime, and the cops hurt you, or injure you to prevent you from committing a crime or to arrest you in taking you in after you commit a crime, well, I have no sympathy at all for you. Whether you are black white or purple; I don't care. You got what you deserved. Don't commit crime. Simple as that.
Almost always guys and within race (80-90%)Hmmmm
https://www.torontopolice.on.ca/homicide/currentcases.php
So I guess all the black guys who are unfortunately on this list were killed by white guys right.
Crime is a nasty thing. I don't pretend to have the answers.
I just think it's defamatory to release a report that implies that the cops are deliberately beating on black people just for laughs. The fact of the matter is that a disproportionate number of black people commit a greater percentage of crimes and ergo are far more likely when committing said crime to end up with a negative experience with the police.
If you're committing a crime, and the cops hurt you, or injure you to prevent you from committing a crime or to arrest you in taking you in after you commit a crime, well, I have no sympathy at all for you. Whether you are black white or purple; I don't care. You got what you deserved. Don't commit crime. Simple as that.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....f_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls
Wow. You have proved that a large number of VICTIMS are black. How does that support your asinine claims that 90% of criminals are black?
Google 10 most wanted Toronto. Police list 38 most wanted in Homicides.Wow. You have proved that a large number of VICTIMS are black. How does that support your asinine claims that 90% of criminals are black?
20 of the 38 qualify. With about 6 no pictures.
90% is extreme. But is better than half really a good stat?
Wait. Didn't you just admit that there is no way to justify Kirk's claims?Google 10 most wanted Toronto. Police list 38 most wanted in Homicides. ...
Sorry but he made the outright racist claim that 90% of criminals are black. That is absolute bullshit and deserves to be called out.
Actual data is hard to find but this dated study has blacks being just under 4% of the population serving time. Seems a bit off the 90% claimed.
http://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/r144-eng.shtml#LinkTarget_24681
Recent stats have Aboriginal people making up around 1/4 of the prison population.
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/85-002-x/2018001/article/54972-eng.htm
So now changing the target. His claim was 90% of CRIME. At best you could say just over half of people currently wanted for MURDER in Toronto are black; a very different thing.90% is extreme. But is better than half really a good stat?
Chicago as a case study. For some reason Toronto seems to want to emulate Chicago. I think it's because we envy their waterfront so much. This was particularly true when David Miller was mayor. A few years ago Chicago changed their method of law enforcement. Sort of a hands off approach to appease minority groups who were crying foul. The result - Chiraq.Do you have anything other than racial pre-conception to support the connection?
A couple of years ago TPS came under similar rules. No carding. No special task forces. Less informants. Budget cuts resulting in a reduction of front line officers. The result - pretty obvious. Same when Miller was Mayor, although I don't think as extreme as today. Here were the average murders per year under our past 3 mayors
Miller- 71 (64,80,70,86,70,62,65)
Ford - 56 (51,57,57,58)
Tory 74 (59,75,65,96)
Coincidence? I think not.
