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you get the idea....
I get the idea that you didn't answer why you mentioned India being a big polluter when you don't believe that man affects the global climate.
 

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So I clicked on the first of your links and it says that the Rockefellers are the 23rd richest family in the US and that this generation of them realize that climate change is real, Exxon is committing it and so divested from fossil fuels.
Sounds like all you did was prove that this is a different generation of Rockefellers who appear to be acting more moral.

Thanks for proving you're an idiot who doesn't even read what he posts.

By the way, Exxon is of course on trial for their work, including doing their own research with Exxon paid scientists that came to the same conclusions as every other fricking climatologist on the planet.
Exxon's Own Research Confirmed Fossil Fuels' Role in Global Warming Decades Ago
https://insideclimatenews.org/news/...confirmed-fossil-fuels-role-in-global-warming

How do you reconcile oil industry funded scientists coming to the same results as gov funded researchers?
 

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My post indicates that it is not unreasonable to believe that big oil funded fake studies, that you and jc believe. Big oil did it in the above study and big tobacco did it with their studies showing that smoking was not bad for you. That is more likely than a global conspiracy involving tens of thousands of reputable scientists and government sanctioned studies that clearly prove that the earth is heating up. Images of the ice caps shrinking/melting, polar bears having to move further south heat maps of the globe showing huge areas of increased temperatures. Those alone debunk the warming deniers' claims of a conspiracy.

I have asked jc numerous times to show me scientists who have changed their minds from believing in warming to now realising and admitting that they were wrong. He ducks and dodges and now just ignores my requests.
I ask again, not that I expect a rational direct answer, but I enjoy exposing him:


Just like you didn't answer my post 33. When you can't beat logic and reasoning you either respond with bombast and insult or just don't respond at all. If man has no influence on climate, why did you need to mention that India is a big polluter? You were trying to say, why should we do anything because India is still going to pollute. That implies that if India reduced polluting then it would make sense for us to do so. But in your theory/belief system it wouldn't make any difference anyway. So it is illogical that you would even mention India.
You have me confused with someone else. I don't get wrapped up in the climate threads. It's a bullshit subject. BTW, will 2019 be warmer than 1457?
 

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You have me confused with someone else. I don't get wrapped up in the climate threads. It's a bullshit subject. BTW, will 2019 be warmer than 1457?
Sorry. Pornaddict.
 

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This is all the scientist that disagree with the global warming aka man made climate bullshit! They think it is fraud!!
http://www.petitionproject.org/
I see they've updated their site to remove the specific qualifications of the signers. The excessive majority are in or are retired from fields that are somehow scientific like your "Perth electrical engineer" and have absolutely no history, qualifications in, or access to climatological scientific data.
 

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Climate change deniers will continue to insist that climate change is a hoax right up to the day that hurricanes and tornadoes destroy the shitty trailer parks where these uneducated, red neck dorks live their miserable lives. They will be the first ones wiped from the planet while enlightened, well educated, champagne liberals such as myself live in our affluent suburban homes built on high ground from storm resistant materials.

Darwinism is at work. Perhaps climate change is not all bad?
 

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Climate change deniers will continue to insist that climate change is a hoax right up to the day that hurricanes and tornadoes destroy the shitty trailer parks where these uneducated, red neck dorks live their miserable lives. They will be the first ones wiped from the planet while enlightened, well educated, champagne liberals such as myself live in our affluent suburban homes built on high ground from storm resistant materials.

Darwinism is at work. Perhaps climate change is not all bad?
Don't worry. If history teaches us anything for certain is that, in a case of a major upheaval, the poor rednecks will dine on the rich.
 

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For those who claim that the studies proving global warming are funded by parties with a financial interest to do so, but refuse to believe that big oil would do something similar to refute global warming, here is an example that big oil will play dirty tricks to further their interests:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

This does not prove that they funded studies denying global warming, but it shows they would have no problem doing so if they wanted.

One of the biggest proponents of solar activity and not CO2 has been exposed in emails to the oil lobby describing his papers and appearances as "deliverables" and discussing his payment from them.




https://www.theguardian.com/environ...nge-denier-willie-soon-funded-energy-industry
Note: An Alarmist Bias in Global warming research has corrupted the academic / scientific community.
The Bias is almost 100% funded by goverments:
1) which has desired policy outcomes, and
2) is pressured to fund a "problem" with potentially catastrophic consequences

It all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .

Since billions of dollars spend on man made climate change ... Let's ask this simple questions. Who benefits the most on being a climate alarmist.
And the biggest bias toward an alarmist ( human-caused catastrophe) interpretation of climate data benefits are:

*University researchers ( endless source of funding => career)
*Government funding managers (jobs depend on dispersal funds)
*Politicians ( increased power, taxation " new source of revenue tools", Able to pick or choose winners/ losers of companies/ industries)


PS climate change industries is now 1.5 trillion dollar global industry.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/11/climate-change-industry-now-15-trillion-global-bus/
http://www.cfact.org/2015/08/22/climate-crisis-inc-has-become-a-1-5-trillion-industry/#iLightbox[gallery25314]/0

PPS. Don't you think there are a conflict of interest among climate alarmist and government ????
 
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. Who benefits the most on being a climate alarmist.
And the biggest bias toward an alarmist ( human-caused catastrophe) interpretation of climate data benefits are:

*University researchers ( endless source of funding => career)
*Government funding managers (jobs depend on dispersal funds)
*Politicians ( increased power, taxation " new source of revenue tools", Able to pick or choose winners/ losers of companies/ industries)
Who benefits the most from maintaining the status quo.
1)Big oil
2)Big Coal

Which industries have been exposed as promoting fake studies to protect their interests:
1)Big oil:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/c...gtype=Homepage
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nergy-industry
2)Big tobacco (a comparable situation to big oil/coal)

You talk about a $1.5 trillion interest in being a climate realist. Guaranteed the worldwide corporate interest in maintaining fossil fuels dwarfs that number annually.

And do you really think that what professors and researchers get paid is even 1% of big oil and big coal profits. If you believe that, then you are even …..er than I previously thought. As well, with all the revenues that governments receive from the crazy taxation they impose on fossil fuels why would they want to give that up for a green program that they would be happy to subsidize with tax breaks? Again, your arguments are ludicrous. There are more holes in your arguments than have been created in the ozone layer.

Use your brain for a change. The amount of porn you watch has disassociated you from reality.
 

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Note: An Alarmist Bias in Global warming research has corrupted the academic / scientific community....
So that's your anti-government world conspiracy excuse for falling for a one guy who openly describes his work as "deliverables" for oil companies?
 

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So that's your anti-government world conspiracy excuse for falling for a one guy who openly describes his work as "deliverables" for oil companies?


Who benefits the most from maintaining the status quo.
1)Big oil
2)Big Coal

Which industries have been exposed as promoting fake studies to protect their interests:
1)Big oil:https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/13/c...gtype=Homepage
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...nergy-industry
2)Big tobacco (a comparable situation to big oil/coal)

You talk about a $1.5 trillion interest in being a climate realist. Guaranteed the worldwide corporate interest in maintaining fossil fuels dwarfs that number annually.

And do you really think that what professors and researchers get paid is even 1% of big oil and big coal profits. If you believe that, then you are even …..er than I previously thought. As well, with all the revenues that governments receive from the crazy taxation they impose on fossil fuels why would they want to give that up for a green program that they would be happy to subsidize with tax breaks? Again, your arguments are ludicrous. There are more holes in your arguments than have been created in the ozone layer.

Use your brain for a change. The amount of porn you watch has disassociated you from reality.



Er.. Why don't you use your brain for a change!
Professor and researcher get unlimited funding billions of dollars and unlimited granted to promoted biases research in global warming / climate change in another job security. Ask yourself this question when all the funding dry up when man made climate change is proven false. All those climate scientist funding grant will dry up! And all those climate scientist will be unemployed!!


Just look at the facts!! Here the link!
For your info:
The annual revenue of the Climate Crisis & Renewable Energy Industry has become a $1.5-trillion-a-year business! That’s equal to the annual economic activity generated by the entire US nonprofit sector, or all savings over the past ten years from consumers switching to generic drugs. By comparison, revenue for the much-vilified Koch Industries are about $115 billion, for ExxonMobil around $365 billion.

http://www.cfact.org/2015/08/22/climate-crisis-inc-has-become-a-1-5-trillion-industry/#iLightbox[gallery25314]/
What the fuck tobacco industries have to do with climate...absolutely nothing!!

If you look at all the peer research paper on all the tobacco research saying that tabacco research that does cause cancers it the data approaches close to almost 100% ! As compared any peer research paper maybe a few says it there no link to tobacco and cancer .

Using the tabacco arguments is a full shit rebuttal . Just because the lobbyists want to save the tobacco industries by saving it does not cause cancer is a full of shit arguments when they don't have tons of scientific data to back up your arguements plus they pressure the politicans or donate fund to their campaign for reelection.

How much tax revenue you can get from carbon tax worldwide !

Future taxation from carbon tax worldwide will give any goverments a wet dream unlimited taxation to fund their pet project.
Just look at today how much tax they are getting from a litre of gas . It fucking insane! Tax about tax for just a gallon / litre of fuel.
Taxes are one of the largest components of Canadian retail pump prices. In 2015, Canadians paid an average of 38.5 cents of tax on every litre of gasoline. There that money from taxes that goes in goverment General revenue coffers . That billions of dollars that can be used for their pet project. I bet less then 1% is use on green program just from the gaseline taxes!
Now they want more ??? just like the Wynne goverment on cap &'trade use it for a new source of revenue tools!
Use your fucking brain!

Scared Witless: Prophets and profits of climate doom, the U.S. government spent over $185 billion between 2003 and 2010 on climate change items – and this wild spending spree has gotten even worse in the ensuing Obama years. We are paying for questionable to fraudulent global warming studies, climate-related technology research, loans and tax breaks for Solyndra and other companies that go bankrupt, and “climate adaptation” foreign aid to poor countries.


You been drinking too much libtard Kool,aid!

the posting on your stupid dead Link from your NY time don't help your dumb agreements!!
Maybe you should watch more porn then visit escort review board.
It may help you think clearly instead of sticking your head into your ass!

If you both believe in the nonsenses of Man made climate change / aka rebranded global warming ... Er.. Why don't you give up your car and bus and walk to work and don't eat anything beef. Go carbonless. Don't take taxis and don't take planes. Go back to walking or use horses and buggy. Don't heat your home with natural gas or don't burn any wood they all produce CO2 and don't breathe also because you exhale CO2. Just die Practice what you preach.

PS The lone scientist that received funding for oil Industry most likely didn't get any funding from the government for because he didn't believed in global warming so he get no funding to do any research.
As long as you push the global warming agenda you get funding from government to do research!
 

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Note: An Alarmist Bias in Global warming research has corrupted the academic / scientific community.
The Bias is almost 100% funded by goverments:
1) which has desired policy outcomes, and
2) is pressured to fund a "problem" with potentially catastrophic consequences

It all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .
Stupid theory, pornaddict.
Its shown as total garbage by the fact that Exxon hired their own scientists, where if anything there would be incentive to disprove anthropogenic climate change but instead they came up with the same answers.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/

Whoops.
 

shack

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Er.. Why don't you use your brain for a change!
Professor and researcher get unlimited funding billions of dollars
Show me a professor that gets billions of dollars in funding.

At least I have a brain. Really, your theories are getting loopier and loopier. Trillions of dollars for the oil industry worldwide.
 

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Show me a professor that gets billions of dollars in funding.

At least I have a brain. Really, your theories are getting loopier and loopier. Trillions of dollars for the oil industry worldwide.
Professors dont get the billions....its the schools that get it through FUNDING in which you seem to think DOESNT exist!

Let me ask you, how will the money made and GIVEN BACK to tax payers help reduce pollution?

Where does the money go? How many billions does it take and for how long till your scientists and govt say we can stop paying?

Remember the drive clean program for your car? I did them. When it first came out, we were supposed to be test site. They also told us it was a good revenue tool for us and the govt. What do you think about piece of truth? Not once were we told it was to reduce emissions for the better of the earth!
 

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Professors dont get the billions....its the schools that get it through FUNDING in which you seem to think DOESNT exist!

Let me ask you, how will the money made and GIVEN BACK to tax payers help reduce pollution?

Where does the money go? How many billions does it take and for how long till your scientists and govt say we can stop paying?

Remember the drive clean program for your car? I did them. When it first came out, we were supposed to be test site. They also told us it was a good revenue tool for us and the govt. What do you think about piece of truth? Not once were we told it was to reduce emissions for the better of the earth!
So you think this is a conspiracy run by all universities in order to get climate change research funding?
Fucking hilarious, sir.

The crap some people believe.
 

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Professors dont get the billions....its the schools that get it through FUNDING in which you seem to think DOESNT exist!
I see. So the gov't is only interested in finding out about the facts if they are about global warming. But if the earth is doing something otherwise, they have no interest in knowing what that might be. They are only interested in the future of the world if it is heating up. If there's going to be an ice age, well, who the fuck cares. We will not fund any studies for that shit. That makes perfect sense.

The gov't is going to fund research studies to the same amount no matter what the earth is doing because they feel that they need to know.
 
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