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Skinhead Groups Charged With Hate Crimes

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A day after a neo-Nazi is convicted of murder, associates of the country's oldest, most violent skinhead groups charged with hate crimes

December 08, 2018

Brett Barrouquere

Individuals associated with some of the country’s oldest and most violent racist skinhead groups have been charged with hate crimes in Washington state, just hours after a jury convicted a neo-Nazi of murder for his actions at the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Travis David Condor, a member of the band Birthrite and head of hate music record label American Defense Records, was among nine people arrested at a bar in Lynwood, Washington, early Saturday morning.

The Snohomish County Sheriff's Office said in a release that the people in custody attacked a black DJ at the Rec Room Bar while shouting racial slurs at the man.

The attack came on Martyr’s Day, which marks the anniversary of the death of Robert Jay Mathews, a white supremacist who led the domestic terrorist group The Order in the mid-1980s.

Mathews died December 8, 1984, in a shootout with FBI agents on Whidbey Island, Washington, and has become a hero to the white supremacist and neo-Nazi movements.

All were arrested at about 12:40 a.m. (Pacific Standard Time), just hours after a jury across the country in Virginia convicted 21-year-old James Alex Fields of murder for driving his car into a group of counter-protesters at the “Unite the Right” rally on August 12, 2017.

The verdict in Fields’ case has been closely watched in the racist "alt-right" and white supremacist communities, and the guilty finding drew outrage from them online.

Condor was photographed rallying alongside members of the Hammerskin Nation and other white supremacists at the Charlottesville rally, which turned violent before being dispersed by police.

Hammerskin Nation’s western region members have been involved in violence at political rallies across 2017. “Western Hammers” were also involved with the Rise Above Movement (RAM), which participated in violence during rallies in Huntington Beach and San Bernardino, California. Members were photographed during the April 2017 Berkeley riot.

Perhaps the Hammerskins’ most infamous member is Wade Michael Page, who gunned down six worshippers in a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, in 2012. Page turned his pistol on himself after engaging first responders, including Lt. Brian Murphy, who Page shot 15 times during a shootout in the temple’s parking lot.

For years, the Hammerskins and other racist skinheads have gathered outside Seattle, Washington, to celebrate Mathews and The Order’s legacy of terrorism. Groups usually travel by ferry to Whidbey Island and take photographs near the plot of land where Mathews died during a firefight with federal law enforcement officers.

The Order is celebrated by white supremacists for its underground spree of terror, which lasted just over a year. The group ran a sophisticated counterfeiting operation, committed numerous armed robberies and netted millions of dollars. In June 1984 members of the Order murdered Alan Berg, a Jewish talk radio host from Denver who was known for his fiery debates with white supremacists who called into his show.

Condor, who praised Mathews on social media, was previously arrested in 2010 for severely beating a homeless man with metal pipes and baseball bats. The assault took place while Condor was a soldier with the 82nd Airborne Division based at Fort Bragg. He pled guilty to the charges.

Police and sheriff’s deputies said the DJ, who was not immediately identified, was taken to a nearby hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. Some of his equipment was also damaged.

Condor and another man, Cory Thomas Colwell, of Eugene, Oregon, face multiple charges, including assault and malicious harassment based on race, which the state considers a hate crime. Bond on all the charges added up to $33,000 and $34,500 respectively for the two men.

Also arrested on charges of malicious harassment were:

Leah N. Northcraft, who is charged with malicious harassment based on race. Bond is set at $10,000.

Vincent Bradley Nutter, who is charged with malicious harassment based on race. Bond is set at $10,000.

Randy Smith, who is charged with malicious harassment based on race. Bond is set at $10,000.

Nathaniel L. Woodell, who is charged with malicious harassment based on race. Bond is set at $10,000.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/12/08/day-after-neo-nazi-convicted-murder-associates-countrys-oldest-most-violent-skinhead-groups
 

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But, but, I thought that the only violent ones are the Antifa and The Muslim Immigrants / Refugees. The right wingers are supposed to be posting all the threads relating to the most violent individuals!!
 

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I meant in general, we know what skinheads are about and what they do, the more publicity they get good or bad gives them a louder voice
Yes, we know that they are the violent ones committing numerous crimes, but the manner in which some of the right wingers on this board relate the violence only to the "Left" / "Antifa" and the "Muslims" clearly gives a false impression with regards to hate crimes related to this type of violence.
 

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Yes, we know that they are the violent ones committing numerous crimes, but the manner in which some of the right wingers on this board relate the violence only to the "Left" / "Antifa" and the "Muslims" clearly gives a false impression with regards to hate crimes related to this type of violence.
Antifa is pretty violent too , they cause a lot of problems. They have caused riots at many of the G summits although they haven't killed anyone yet, just caused millions of dollars in damages
 

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Good, arrest, convict and imprison them, I’m fully in favor.
 

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Antifa is pretty violent too , they cause a lot of problems. They have caused riots at many of the G summits although they haven't killed anyone yet, just caused millions of dollars in damages
It should be a moral duty to stop neo-Nazis, don't you agree?
 

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It should be a moral duty to stop neo-Nazis, don't you agree?
Of course. it's not just just a moral duty, if they commit crimes they should be prosecuted and jailed, if members of Antifa are committing crimes shouldn't they be prosecuted as well? Just looking for consistency.
 

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Antifa is pretty violent too , they cause a lot of problems. They have caused riots at many of the G summits although they haven't killed anyone yet, just caused millions of dollars in damages
At demonstrations involving the extreme right, there is always violence when the counter demonstrators also protest against these individuals. Yes, there was violence at the G20 Summit. But the cops were also accused of over reaction to some of the non violent demonstrators. The skinheads target certain minorities and the injuries can be horrendous. We know that some of the victims were also killed. There are numerous immigrants / refugees / Jews etc that do not feel safe in their own neighbourhoods as these skinheads are a huge problem.

The recent violence in France caused damages in the millions. There were numerous extreme right wing demonstrators that were involved.
 

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Antifa is pretty violent too , they cause a lot of problems. They have caused riots at many of the G summits although they haven't killed anyone yet, just caused millions of dollars in damages
The Police have been caught being agent provocateurs among left wing protests. I wonder how many of these protests have been inspired by them.
 

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At demonstrations involving the extreme right, there is always violence when the counter demonstrators also protest against these individuals. Yes, there was violence at the G20 Summit. But the cops were also accused of over reaction to some of the non violent demonstrators. The skinheads target certain minorities and the injuries can be horrendous. We know that some of the victims were also killed. There are numerous immigrants / refugees / Jews etc that do not feel safe in their own neighbourhoods as these skinheads are a huge problem.

The recent violence in France caused damages in the millions. There were numerous extreme right wing demonstrators that were involved.
I realize there are extreme right wingers who cause damage and are violent, but you seem to make excuses for the left wing extremists that it's ok for them to cause damage and are violent, it's wrong for both to do it but you always seem to give the lefties a free pass. At the summit in Toronto years back it was the lefties who caused all the damage they were not protesting against wing extremists. There are many examples of this. You can't except it from either side if you do you look like a hypocrite. I agree the right wingers are more hateful and violent.
 

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The Police have been caught being agent provocateurs among left wing protests. I wonder how many of these protests have been inspired by them.
The left wing protesters are never at fault, right?Even when there are no right wingers there these guys seem to be violent and cause damage but it's never their fault it's always someone else's fault, the right, the police, Trump, Santa Claus and the Easter bunny, the left are almost as bad as the right, you guys give them a pass on everything.
 

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I realize there are extreme right wingers who cause damage and are violent, but you seem to make excuses for the left wing extremists that it's ok for them to cause damage and are violent, it's wrong for both to do it but you always seem to give the lefties a free pass. At the summit in Toronto years back it was the lefties who caused all the damage they were not protesting against wing extremists. There are many examples of this. You can't except it from either side if you do you look like a hypocrite. I agree the right wingers are more hateful and violent.
Well I argue that the normal Conservatives, Liberal and NDP are not the violent ones. It is the EXTREME ones on both sides that are violent. The right wingers who for some reason you do not call out, tend to lump all the "lefties" such as Liberals, NDP, Antifa, Green Party, Marxists etc as the violent ones. Time and time again they seem to repeat this nonsense., that it is the "lefties" that are violent. them anything left of Trump or Scheer are "lefties".
So why do you not throw your two cents in then??

But there is a a very subtle difference in the violence. The extreme left carry out violence during demonstrations / counter demonstrations. In addition to violence during their demonstrations the extreme right are notorious for targeting individuals or groups of individuals based on religious, or ethnicity. This is what I totally condemn as well. Now I hope I made it clear. Does it sound hypocritical to you? Well, if I do not see you condemning these specific attacks explained above by the right wingers, then it will actually be "hypocrisy" on your part.
 

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The left wing protesters are never at fault, right?Even when there are no right wingers there these guys seem to be violent and cause damage but it's never their fault it's always someone else's fault, the right, the police, Trump, Santa Claus and the Easter bunny, the left are almost as bad as the right, you guys give them a pass on everything.
I never said that. I agree with Chomsky and Hedges that the black block are gifts to the right wing, but during G20 and occupy there were definitely undercover cops instigating things.
 

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I never said that. I agree with Chomsky and Hedges that the black block are gifts to the right wing, but during G20 and occupy there were definitely undercover cops instigating things.
I don't believe that's the case even if the cops instigated things which I don't think they did, why not just walk away, if the cops instigated I understand them burning a police car but where's the justification for causing some much damage to businesses and property.
 

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Well I argue that the normal Conservatives, Liberal and NDP are not the violent ones. It is the EXTREME ones on both sides that are violent. The right wingers who for some reason you do not call out, tend to lump all the "lefties" such as Liberals, NDP, Antifa, Green Party, Marxists etc as the violent ones. Time and time again they seem to repeat this nonsense., that it is the "lefties" that are violent. them anything left of Trump or Scheer are "lefties".
So why do you not throw your two cents in then??

But there is a a very subtle difference in the violence. The extreme left carry out violence during demonstrations / counter demonstrations. In addition to violence during their demonstrations the extreme right are notorious for targeting individuals or groups of individuals based on religious, or ethnicity. This is what I totally condemn as well. Now I hope I made it clear. Does it sound hypocritical to you? Well, if I do not see you condemning these specific attacks explained above by the right wingers, then it will actually be "hypocrisy" on your part.
If you read my posts I have condemned and called out right wing extremists, I even said they are worse than left wing extremists, I guess you missed that part, I think we agree extremists on both sides are violent and yes I agree the right are worse.
 

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If you read my posts I have condemned and called out right wing extremists, I even said they are worse than left wing extremists, I guess you missed that part, I think we agree extremists on both sides are violent and yes I agree the right are worse.
I guess you did not understand what I said. You seem to pick on only the left wingers on this board for not condemning violence by left wing extremists. But some of the right wingers on this board have never condemned the violence by the right wing extremists. I have not seen you calling out the right wingers on this board for it.

So why do you not do so?? That is what hypocrisy is all about!!
 

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I guess you did not understand what I said. You seem to pick on only the left wingers on this board for not condemning violence by left wing extremists. But some of the right wingers on this board have never condemned the violence by the right wing extremists. I have not seen you calling out the right wingers on this board for it.

So why do you not do so?? That is what hypocrisy is all about!!
I have called out right wingers, two in fact I went directly after, There are a lot more lefties on here so it might seem that way, I went after the guy who was supporting the Charlottesville killer and I went after a Trump supporter, can't remember his name right now. I expect more from the left wingers because they seem to preach inclusiveness and tolerance, but most of the left wingers on this board don't share those attributes. The right wingers are who they are and don't pretend to be anything else, Trump followers and his policies. I mean how many times can you bash a Trump supporter for saying the same thing over and over again. They believe the lies and their view of the truth is warped , more simplistic in their thinking.
 
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