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Federal Conservatives would win majority if election held today: Forum Poll
Published:
December 9, 2018

Updated:
December 9, 2018 9:43 AM EST



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Tories would win majority if election today: Poll



The federal Conservative party would win a majority is an election was held today, a new poll shows.

In a recent random sampling, 43% said they would vote conservative, while 34% would cast a Liberal ballot.

“The Conservatives have a strong and steady lead over the Liberals as we go into the New Year,” said Dr. Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research, which conducted the survey.

“With more than half of the NDP, BQ (Bloc Quebecois) and Green voters believing that Canada is better off now than it was four years ago, it will be imperative for (Prime Minister Justin) Trudeau’s Liberals to capture uncommitted voters from those parties in order to have a chance at winning the election over (Andrew) Scheer’s Conservatives.


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau speaks at the Fortune Global Forum in Toronto on Monday, October 15, 2018. Chris Young / THE CANADIAN PRESS
Favouring the Conservatives is the latest results finding that 54% of respondents disapprove of the job Trudeau is doing, which include a number of unpopular gaffes.



The PM was recently criticized for tweeting to a late night TV celebrity that Canada would donate $50 millions to an education charity the host was involved in. Critics said Trudeau was trying to impress a celebrity.

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Earlier this year, the Trudeau government took a $1.6 million trip to India and included in the expenses was $17,000 to bring along a celebrity chief to prepare a meal for an official reception.



Among the many other missteps, has been his very unpopular claim the budget will balance itself.

NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has 41% disapproval rate with voters, according to the poll.

Scheer’s disapproval rate is the lowest at 35%.

When questioned who would make the best prime minister, the survey says it was a horse race with Scheer and Trudeau nearly tied for the best PM.


Federal Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer addresses the Ontario PC Convention in Toronto on Saturday, November 17, 2018. (THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young)
Those in the survey were most likely to support the Conservatives came from the west and Liberal supporters from the east.

Roughly 60% of those Conservative supporters were from Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Half were males between the ages of 44 and 54 earning between $60 to $80. About 47% of those had an education level of secondary school or less.

In Atlantic Canada, 50% were Liberal supporters and over the age of 35. Forty percent earned between $100,000 to $250,000 and 40% of those had a post-graduate degree.


When respondents were asked in Canada was doing better than it was four years ago, 47% said it was.

Broken down further, 88% of Conservative voters said the state of the country is worse now than in 2014, while 86% of Liberals feel the country is doing better.

The Forum poll is based on 1,541 random telephone survey from across the country. It was conducted from Nov. 28 to 29 and is considered accurate plus or minus 3%, 19 times out of 20.
 
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Federal Conservatives would win majority if election held today: Forum Poll
Published:
December 9, 2018

The federal Conservative party would win a majority is an election was held today, a new poll shows.
In a recent random sampling, 43% said they would vote conservative, while 34% would cast a Liberal ballot.

“The Conservatives have a strong and steady lead over the Liberals as we go into the New Year,” said Dr. Lorne Bozinoff, president of Forum Research, which conducted the survey.

“With more than half of the NDP, BQ (Bloc Quebecois) and Green voters believing that Canada is better off now than it was four years ago, it will be imperative for (Prime Minister Justin) Trudeau’s Liberals to capture uncommitted voters from those parties in order to have a chance at winning the election over (Andrew) Scheer’s Conservatives.

Favouring the Conservatives is the latest results finding that 54% of respondents disapprove of the job Trudeau is doing, which include a number of unpopular gaffes.

The PM was recently criticized for tweeting to a late night TV celebrity that Canada would donate $50 millions to an education charity the host was involved in. Critics said Trudeau was trying to impress a celebrity.

Earlier this year, the Trudeau government took a $1.6 million trip to India and included in the expenses was $17,000 to bring along a celebrity chief to prepare a meal for an official reception.

Among the many other missteps, has been his very unpopular claim the budget will balance itself.

NDP leader Jagmeet Singh has 41% disapproval rate with voters, according to the poll.

Scheer’s disapproval rate is the lowest at 35%.

When questioned who would make the best prime minister, the survey says it was a horse race with Scheer and Trudeau nearly tied for the best PM.

Those in the survey were most likely to support the Conservatives came from the west and Liberal supporters from the east.

Roughly 60% of those Conservative supporters were from Alberta, Saskatchewan and Manitoba. Half were males between the ages of 44 and 54 earning between $60 to $80. About 47% of those had an education level of secondary school or less.

In Atlantic Canada, 50% were Liberal supporters and over the age of 35. Forty percent earned between $100,000 to $250,000 and 40% of those had a post-graduate degree.

When respondents were asked in Canada was doing better than it was four years ago, 47% said it was.

Broken down further, 88% of Conservative voters said the state of the country is worse now than in 2014, while 86% of Liberals feel the country is doing better.

The Forum poll is based on 1,541 random telephone survey from across the country. It was conducted from Nov. 28 to 29 and is considered accurate plus or minus 3%, 19 times out of 20.
I didn't expect the OP to look at the actual survey, any more than I expect the Sun to present serious information, or links to their sources. But not caring about his own post enough to clean out the irrelevant links, headlines and crap — about Warmington, Variety Village and MMA, and such — shows scant respect for us readers, and for his own content.

Those who want all the facts, the true demographics, and what your source left out will have to go to the actual report of the Forum survey: http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/2908/federal-horserace-december-2018/ .
 

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Poll today pretty much is meaningless. The thing I worry about is Bernier's party bleeding off support from the CPC.
 

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I didn't expect the OP to look at the actual survey, any more than I expect the Sun to present serious information, or links to their sources. But not caring about his own post enough to clean out the irrelevant links, headlines and crap — about Warmington, Variety Village and MMA, and such — shows scant respect for us readers, and for his own content.

Those who want all the facts, the true demographics, and what your source left out will have to go to the actual report of the Forum survey: http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/2908/federal-horserace-december-2018/ .
Which, after all your whining, supports the title of the thread.
 

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The Nanos poll that was made public only a few days ago, pt the Liberals 8 points ahead of the Conservatives and Trudeau's popularity was much higher than Baby Scheer's popularity. But this article explains the reason and it is now all to do with the poll biases:

https://globalnews.ca/news/4746209/opinion-polls/

So take this Forum Poll with a "GRAIN OF SALT"!!
 

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Which, after all your whining, supports the title of the thread.
Actually, the poll does not support the thread's title or it's own, which refers to a count of elected MPs elected riding by riding, not people's votes aggregated across the country.

Like the many surveys that predicted a second President Clinton, this one considered only the popular vote. Just like the loser in the White House today, we often have had majority governments that lost the popular vote thanks to our Past-Its Best-Before-Date electoral system. The current Liberal government's majority was 'earned' with just 39% which falls comfortably within the margin of error of this result.

Not to mention what might happen between now and whenever.
 

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Like the many surveys that predicted a second President Clinton, this one considered only the popular vote. Just like the loser in the White House today, we often have had majority governments that lost the popular vote thanks to our Past-Its Best-Before-Date electoral system.
When I went to bed on election night Trump had already been projected winner of the electoral vote and was leading in the popular vote. When I woke up the next morning I heard that Trump lost the popular vote by something like 2.8MM. I knew immediately that it had to be because of those radical lefties in California led by the Berkeley crowd.

Question: Wasn't Trudeau suppose to change the FPTP system to proportional representation?
 

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When I went to bed on election night Trump had already been projected winner of the electoral vote and was leading in the popular vote. When I woke up the next morning I heard that Trump lost the popular vote by something like 2.8MM. I knew immediately that it had to be because of those radical lefties in California led by the Berkeley crowd.

Question: Wasn't Trudeau suppose to change the FPTP system to proportional representation?
because they do not vote for Trump does that mean that they are "radical lefties"? Where do you right wingers get all this nonsense from? The fact is that those living in California are also American Citizens. One can say that the same about ones in the boonies, who are the radical right wingers.
 

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When I went to bed on election night Trump had already been projected winner of the electoral vote and was leading in the popular vote. When I woke up the next morning I heard that Trump lost the popular vote by something like 2.8MM. I knew immediately that it had to be because of those radical lefties in California led by the Berkeley crowd.

Question: Wasn't Trudeau suppose to change the FPTP system to proportional representation?
He promised, clearly and explicitly, to change it to a better system by the coming election.

What that "better system" would be, he never did say. So he began the process with a junior Minister doing a showy but inept version of 'consumer-research' as if the decision was between liquid detergent, powder or pods. And that's as far as he ever got.

When there was no groundswell for his own favourite choice — ranked ballots, the sort of 'improved' FPTP system that made him Liberal leader — he lost interest and took his toys home.

Why finding out what the people think about election theory was so all-fired important, but actually electing a Parliament that reflects what the people think was a trivial promise he could discard, remains one of those mysteries of politics our rulers have always left us with.

And we elect them anyway, in spite of their lies. Like the guy in the White House who claimed he couldn't and wouldn't trust the election he was running in.
 

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The only thing the polls continually get right is the Jagmeet is dead meat.
 

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The Nanos poll that was made public only a few days ago, pt the Liberals 8 points ahead of the Conservatives and Trudeau's popularity was much higher than Baby Scheer's popularity.
Nanos' latest poll has the PCs and Liberals statistically tied, with the PCs at 34.8% and the Liberals at 34.1%. Worries about the future of the Canadian economy have been cited as the primary reason for the Liberals dropping seven points.

https://twitter.com/niknanos/status/1073262396251222016
 

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Nanos' latest poll has the PCs and Liberals statistically tied, with the PCs at 34.8% and the Liberals at 34.1%. Worries about the future of the Canadian economy have been cited as the primary reason for the Liberals dropping seven points.

https://twitter.com/niknanos/status/1073262396251222016
Yens, it is neck and neck at the moment. The future is a worry worldwide and yes, the Canadian economy will be impacted once the world's economies starts moving back into a recession. That is the prediction at the moment, thanks to tariffs, and trade wars between the US and China, Albertan Oil catastrophe, Brexit, Italian economic crash and now even uncertainty in France.
 
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