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“white liberals tend to downplay their own verbal competence..




A new study suggests that white Americans who hold liberal socio-political views use language that makes them appear less competent in an effort to get along with racial minorities.

By Jyoti Madhusoodanan

Racial bias can put people of color at a disadvantage when interviewing for a job, buying a house, or interacting with the police. New research suggests that bias may also shape daily interactions between racial minorities and white people, even those whites who tend to be less biased.

According to new research by Cydney Dupree, assistant professor of organizational behavior at Yale SOM, white liberals tend to downplay their own verbal competence in exchanges with racial minorities, compared to how other white Americans act in such exchanges. The study is scheduled for publication in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

While many previous studies have examined how people who hold racial bias behave in multi-racial settings, few have studied how whites who are more well-intentioned interact with people of other races. “There’s less work that explores how well-intentioned whites try to get along with racial minorities,” Dupree says. “We wanted to know their strategies for increasing connections between members of different social groups—and how effective these strategies are.”

Dupree and her co-author, Susan Fiske of Princeton University, began by analyzing the words used in campaign speeches delivered by Democratic and Republican presidential candidates to different audiences over the years. They scanned 74 speeches delivered by white candidates over a 25-year period. Approximately half were addressed to mostly-minority audiences—at a Hispanic small business roundtable discussion or a black church, for example. They then paired each speech delivered to a mostly-minority audience with a comparable speech delivered at a mostly-white audience—at a mostly-white church or university, for example. The researchers analyzed the text of these speeches for two measures: words related to competence (that is, words about ability or status, such as “assertive” or “competitive”) and words related to warmth (that is, words about friendliness, such as “supportive” and “compassionate”).

Warmth, related to intentions towards others, and competence, related to the ability to carry out those intentions, are two fundamental dimensions of how we see others and portray ourselves in social interactions. Stereotypical portrayals of black Americans generally show them as being less competent than their white counterparts, but not necessarily less friendly or warm, Dupree explains.

The team found that Democratic candidates used fewer competence-related words in speeches delivered to mostly minority audiences than they did in speeches delivered to mostly white audiences. The difference wasn’t statistically significant in speeches by Republican candidates, though “it was harder to find speeches from Republicans delivered to minority audiences,” Dupree notes. There was no difference in Democrats’ or Republicans’ usage of words related to warmth. “It was really surprising to see that for nearly three decades, Democratic presidential candidates have been engaging in this predicted behavior.”

With this preliminary evidence in hand, the researchers set out to further test their ideas.

“My hope is that this work will help include well-intentioned people who see themselves as allies but who may be unwittingly contributing to group divides.”
They designed a series of experiments in which white participants were asked to respond to a hypothetical or presumed-real interaction partner. For half of these participants, their partner was given a stereotypically white name (such as “Emily”); for the other half, their partner was given a stereotypically black name (such as “Lakisha”). Participants were asked to select from a list of words for an email to their partner. For some studies, this email was for a work-related task; for others, this email was simply to introduce themselves. Each word had been previously scored on how warm or competent it appears. The word “sad,” for example, scored low for both warmth and competence. “Melancholy,” on the other hand, scored high for competence and low on warmth.

Participant also completed a variety of measures that assessed how liberal they were.

The researchers found that liberal individuals were less likely to use words that would make them appear highly competent when the person they were addressing was presumed to be black rather than white. No significant differences were seen in the word selection of conservatives based on the presumed race of their partner. “It was kind of an unpleasant surprise to see this subtle but persistent effect,” Dupree says. “Even if it’s ultimately well-intentioned, it could be seen as patronizing.”

Dupree and Fiske suspect that the behavior stems from a liberal person’s desire to connect with other races. One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly. But it’s also possible that “this is happening because people are using common stereotypes in an effort to get along,” Dupree says.

Initial data from follow-up studies suggest that describing a black person as highly intelligent, thus reversing the stereotype, or as already highly motivated to get along with whites, thus removing the need to prove goodwill, can reduce the likelihood that a white person will downplay their competence in their interactions with the black person.

Now, Dupree is working to understand how these behaviors play out in real-world organizations: for example, whether medical professionals engage in this behavior when interacting with minority patients and how corporate executives present themselves to minority peers. She is also testing the efficacy of this possibly strategic behavior: for example, do black receivers of white liberals’ competence downshift see this behavior as demeaning or endearing?

“There’s a lot of research focused on biased individuals and how holding bias, especially implicit bias, can influence social interactions,” Dupree says. “But that leaves a lot of people out. My hope is that this work will help include well-intentioned people who see themselves as allies but who may be unwittingly contributing to group divides. There is a broader need to include them in the conversation.”

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insig...nt-in-interactions-with-african-americans?amp
 

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“white liberals tend to downplay their own verbal competence..




A new study suggests that white Americans who hold liberal socio-political views use language that makes them appear less competent in an effort to get along with racial minorities.

By Jyoti Madhusoodanan

Racial bias can put people of color at a disadvantage when interviewing for a job, buying a house, or interacting with the police. New research suggests that bias may also shape daily interactions between racial minorities and white people, even those whites who tend to be less biased.

According to new research by Cydney Dupree, assistant professor of organizational behavior at Yale SOM, white liberals tend to downplay their own verbal competence in exchanges with racial minorities, compared to how other white Americans act in such exchanges. The study is scheduled for publication in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology.

While many previous studies have examined how people who hold racial bias behave in multi-racial settings, few have studied how whites who are more well-intentioned interact with people of other races. “There’s less work that explores how well-intentioned whites try to get along with racial minorities,” Dupree says. “We wanted to know their strategies for increasing connections between members of different social groups—and how effective these strategies are.”

Dupree and her co-author, Susan Fiske of Princeton University, began by analyzing the words used in campaign speeches delivered by Democratic and Republican presidential candidates to different audiences over the years. They scanned 74 speeches delivered by white candidates over a 25-year period. Approximately half were addressed to mostly-minority audiences—at a Hispanic small business roundtable discussion or a black church, for example. They then paired each speech delivered to a mostly-minority audience with a comparable speech delivered at a mostly-white audience—at a mostly-white church or university, for example. The researchers analyzed the text of these speeches for two measures: words related to competence (that is, words about ability or status, such as “assertive” or “competitive”) and words related to warmth (that is, words about friendliness, such as “supportive” and “compassionate”).

Warmth, related to intentions towards others, and competence, related to the ability to carry out those intentions, are two fundamental dimensions of how we see others and portray ourselves in social interactions. Stereotypical portrayals of black Americans generally show them as being less competent than their white counterparts, but not necessarily less friendly or warm, Dupree explains.

The team found that Democratic candidates used fewer competence-related words in speeches delivered to mostly minority audiences than they did in speeches delivered to mostly white audiences. The difference wasn’t statistically significant in speeches by Republican candidates, though “it was harder to find speeches from Republicans delivered to minority audiences,” Dupree notes. There was no difference in Democrats’ or Republicans’ usage of words related to warmth. “It was really surprising to see that for nearly three decades, Democratic presidential candidates have been engaging in this predicted behavior.”

With this preliminary evidence in hand, the researchers set out to further test their ideas.

“My hope is that this work will help include well-intentioned people who see themselves as allies but who may be unwittingly contributing to group divides.”
They designed a series of experiments in which white participants were asked to respond to a hypothetical or presumed-real interaction partner. For half of these participants, their partner was given a stereotypically white name (such as “Emily”); for the other half, their partner was given a stereotypically black name (such as “Lakisha”). Participants were asked to select from a list of words for an email to their partner. For some studies, this email was for a work-related task; for others, this email was simply to introduce themselves. Each word had been previously scored on how warm or competent it appears. The word “sad,” for example, scored low for both warmth and competence. “Melancholy,” on the other hand, scored high for competence and low on warmth.

Participant also completed a variety of measures that assessed how liberal they were.

The researchers found that liberal individuals were less likely to use words that would make them appear highly competent when the person they were addressing was presumed to be black rather than white. No significant differences were seen in the word selection of conservatives based on the presumed race of their partner. “It was kind of an unpleasant surprise to see this subtle but persistent effect,” Dupree says. “Even if it’s ultimately well-intentioned, it could be seen as patronizing.”

Dupree and Fiske suspect that the behavior stems from a liberal person’s desire to connect with other races. One possible reason for the “competence downshift,” as the authors describe it, is that, regardless of race, people tend to downplay their competence when they want to appear likeable and friendly. But it’s also possible that “this is happening because people are using common stereotypes in an effort to get along,” Dupree says.

Initial data from follow-up studies suggest that describing a black person as highly intelligent, thus reversing the stereotype, or as already highly motivated to get along with whites, thus removing the need to prove goodwill, can reduce the likelihood that a white person will downplay their competence in their interactions with the black person.

Now, Dupree is working to understand how these behaviors play out in real-world organizations: for example, whether medical professionals engage in this behavior when interacting with minority patients and how corporate executives present themselves to minority peers. She is also testing the efficacy of this possibly strategic behavior: for example, do black receivers of white liberals’ competence downshift see this behavior as demeaning or endearing?

“There’s a lot of research focused on biased individuals and how holding bias, especially implicit bias, can influence social interactions,” Dupree says. “But that leaves a lot of people out. My hope is that this work will help include well-intentioned people who see themselves as allies but who may be unwittingly contributing to group divides. There is a broader need to include them in the conversation.”

https://insights.som.yale.edu/insig...nt-in-interactions-with-african-americans?amp
So does this mean Liberals think they are smarter than black people and have feel like they have to dumb themselves down to relate, isn't that racism?
 

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So does this mean Liberals think they are smarter than black people and have feel like they have to dumb themselves down to relate, isn't that racism?
yup...........
 
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So does this mean Liberals think they are smarter than black people and have feel like they have to dumb themselves down to relate, isn't that racism?
Typical liberal tactics ..... they scream racism at everyone else while they are the most racist group ever.
 

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Liberals are more emotion-driven than conservatives
Date:
November 7, 2014
Source:
Society for Personality and Social Psychology
Summary:
Researchers have studied the interaction between emotion and political ideology, showing that the motivating power of emotions is not the same for those on different ends of the ideological spectrum.


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141107091559.htm
 

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bumpity bump

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...eted-by-labour-race-hate-trolls-a3957216.html

Shaun Bailey, the Tory contender for Mayor of London, today revealed how he has been subjected to appalling racist attacks by Labour supporters.

The London Assembly member has been called a “vile disgusting Uncle Tom”, a “lying coconut” and a “token ethnic” since announcing he wanted to challenge Sadiq Khan for City Hall. Mr Bailey condemned the abuse and called for the mayoral election campaign to be a “battle of ideas” on issues affecting millions of Londoners, such as housing, transport and crime.

He told the Evening Standard: “We cannot have a contest that is plagued by racial abuse, mud-slinging and identity politics.

These attacks are poisoning the well of public debate and have no place in a modern, progressive tolerant Britain,” he said.

Mr Bailey is forwarding details of the Twitter attacks on him by people who claim to be Labour members to party chiefs, after Jeremy Corbyn vowed to root out racism within its ranks.



White Abolish ICE members calling a black man the n word

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaiPy_U6Uts

Now, let’s all pause to drink in protester logic. Protecting U.S borders against illegal immigration is “racist;” however, calling American officers the n-word is perfectly fine.
 

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you would rather believe fake news that published crap like this?

https://verysmartbrothas.theroot.co...e-the-white-people-of-black-people-1814157214


then a real scientific research from Yale?
What is fake about actual polls that are reported? Anyway, there are lots of studies on racism and how it affects one's political views. No wonder we see many more Blacks voting for Democrats than Republicans. So the proof is in the pudding, otherwise why would they do so if the interaction between the Conservatives and The Blacks is more "realistic"?? But let's get something into context as to what this Assistant Professor was also implying:

The findings could provide a new arrow in the quiver of those who decry identity politics practiced by liberals, and yet the paper hardly applauds conservatives for their approach, reasoning that they are simply “less motivated to affiliate with racial minorities.” In other words, the paper states, white conservatives “would not bother.”

“It’s somewhat counterintuitive,” said Dupree, who is the lead author and whose research was supported by the National Science Foundation as well as by Princeton’s Joint Degree Program in Social Policy. “The idea that people who are most well intentioned toward racial minorities, the people actually showing up and wanting to forge these connections, they’re the ones who seem to be drawing on stereotypes to do so.”

At the same time, she said, the findings are in line with what research has already concluded about the persistence of stereotypes even as more overt bias diminishes. What’s new is the paper’s focus on a population that has received less attention: people most likely to see themselves as allies of racial minorities.

White liberals, she said, may not endorse stereotypes painting black people “as lower status and less competent,” as the paper notes. But they’re nevertheless aware of these ideas, she explained, “and they may be using them to try to get along in a setting that we know is tricky — navigating an interaction with someone who’s different from you.”

The motive may be ingratiation, the paper suggests, since studies show that white liberals are “concerned about appearing racist,” as Dupree said. In their role as “impression managers,” white liberals may even take on the negative stereotypes they harbor toward people of other races, in an effort, as the paper puts it, to “get on their level.”

Their conservative counterparts, meanwhile, appear not to employ these stereotypes in the same way, as Dupree said, because, “we know empirically that white conservatives are less likely to be interested in getting along with racial minorities.” This became starkly evident to the behavioral psychologist when she turned to political campaign speeches for the first of several studies conducted to test whether political ideology shaped how white people presented themselves, on scales of competence and warmth, depending on the race of their audience.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...le-new-study-contends/?utm_term=.4260dcacfd8b
But, this study actually shows the subtle differences between The Liberals and Conservatives with regards to racism:

https://cloudfront.escholarship.org/dist/prd/content/qt2jw0n1zz/qt2jw0n1zz.pdf

No wonder the most educated with college degreed are Liberals as compared to the Conservatives. Now I see why a substantial number of them hate Colleges and Universities:

https://observer.com/2017/07/pew-report-conservatives-value-higher-education/
 

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What is fake about actual polls that are reported? Anyway, there are lots of studies on racism and how it affects one's political views. No wonder we see many more Blacks voting for Democrats than Republicans. So the proof is in the pudding, otherwise why would they do so if the interaction between the Conservatives and The Blacks is more "realistic"?? But let's get something into context as to what this Assistant Professor was also implying:



But, this study actually shows the subtle differences between The Liberals and Conservatives with regards to racism:

https://cloudfront.escholarship.org/dist/prd/content/qt2jw0n1zz/qt2jw0n1zz.pdf

No wonder the most educated with college degreed are Liberals as compared to the Conservatives. Now I see why a substantial number of them hate Colleges and Universities:

https://observer.com/2017/07/pew-report-conservatives-value-higher-education/
Most of the shit he posts is from reddit. It's nonsensical fringe stuff that racist right wingers post to project racism onto others while they are being bigoted themselves.
 

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What is fake about actual polls that are reported? Anyway, there are lots of studies on racism and how it affects one's political views. No wonder we see many more Blacks voting for Democrats than Republicans. So the proof is in the pudding, otherwise why would they do so if the interaction between the Conservatives and The Blacks is more "realistic"?? But let's get something into context as to what this Assistant Professor was also implying:



But, this study actually shows the subtle differences between The Liberals and Conservatives with regards to racism:

https://cloudfront.escholarship.org/dist/prd/content/qt2jw0n1zz/qt2jw0n1zz.pdf

No wonder the most educated with college degreed are Liberals as compared to the Conservatives. Now I see why a substantial number of them hate Colleges and Universities:

https://observer.com/2017/07/pew-report-conservatives-value-higher-education/
polls are not scientific. polls are appeal to numbers which is a logical fallacy


colleges are universities are indoctrination centeres and if they are so great why are enrollment to them declining?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2018/07/05/academic-deserted-villages/#25ae6b0f5121

Why Enrollment Is Shrinking At Many American Colleges


Students are not learning very much

Study Says College Students Don't Learn Very Much
New research finds less studying, more socializing in marginally challenging college environments

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ollege-students-don-t-learn-very-much/342624/


What are most students learning in college? Not enough, study says


https://hechingerreport.org/what-are-most-students-learning-in-college-not-enough-study-says/


after two years of college, 45% of students learned little to nothing. After four years, 36% of students learned almost nothing.


https://www.businessinsider.com/its-official-college-students-learn-next-to-nothing-2011-1


college and university students learn nothing in colleges and universities

https://www.businessinsider.com/its-official-college-students-learn-next-to-nothing-2011-1
 

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polls are not scientific. polls are appeal to numbers which is a logical fallacy


colleges are universities are indoctrination centeres and if they are so great why are enrollment to them declining?


https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardvedder/2018/07/05/academic-deserted-villages/#25ae6b0f5121

Why Enrollment Is Shrinking At Many American Colleges


Students are not learning very much

Study Says College Students Don't Learn Very Much
New research finds less studying, more socializing in marginally challenging college environments

https://www.theatlantic.com/enterta...ollege-students-don-t-learn-very-much/342624/


What are most students learning in college? Not enough, study says


https://hechingerreport.org/what-are-most-students-learning-in-college-not-enough-study-says/


after two years of college, 45% of students learned little to nothing. After four years, 36% of students learned almost nothing.


https://www.businessinsider.com/its-official-college-students-learn-next-to-nothing-2011-1


college and university students learn nothing in colleges and universities

https://www.businessinsider.com/its-official-college-students-learn-next-to-nothing-2011-1
You left out this important point in your link:

"On the flipside, the real world still does value a college education.

Even (and especially) in today's tough labor market, Corporate America agrees that, "yes" college is worth every penny as most employers consider a college degree a prerequisite for employment."

But to say that Students studying in the Scientific, Medical, Business, Engineering, Computer / Electronic, Commercial and Accounting Fields learn "nothing" is a fallacy!!
 

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You left out this important point in your link:

"On the flipside, the real world still does value a college education.

Even (and especially) in today's tough labor market, Corporate America agrees that, "yes" college is worth every penny as most employers consider a college degree a prerequisite for employment."

But to say that Students studying in the Scientific, Medical, Business, Engineering, Computer / Electronic, Commercial and Accounting Fields learn "nothing" is a fallacy!!
economics 101 says when you flood the market with university degrees you make it more worthless



Degree inflation: Tight job market has been flooded by too many college graduates

https://www.deseretnews.com/article...en-flooded-by-too-many-college-graduates.html


"Degree inflation," as economists call the phenomenon, is infiltrating the job market for many positions that haven't previously required a college diploma, like dental hygienists, cargo agents, clerks and claims adjusters, the story said. Naturally, the drive toward higher credentials for these jobs pushes workers with no more than a high school diploma ever further down the job market food chain. The unemployment rate for college graduates is 3.7 percent, versus 8.1 percent for workers with a high school diploma only, the story said.

In 2006, Noel Weyrich wrote about the problem of credential inflation in University of Pennsylvania's The Pennsylvania Gazette:

"A growing number of scholars believe that the vast expansion of higher education in the United States has been unhealthy for society and academe alike," Weyrich wrote. "Sociologists contend that higher education has gained vast public subsidies by promising to increase workplace productivity and improve social mobility — while failing at both tasks."

A similar concern was raised in a 2002 opinion piece in Chronicle of Higher Education by Randall Collins, who described "a higher education system locked in a cycle of expanding access to degrees, which dilutes the value of those degrees in the employment market, which, in turn, drives a portion of those degree-holders back to campus for still more advanced degrees," according to Weyrich's summation of Collins' article.

For many workers, having that college degree does pay off eventually, The New York Times story said. The diploma holder who takes a file clerk job and turns out to be a whiz might soon be promoted to a position better aligned with their education.

Still, degree inflation raises the threshold for getting a good job to an artificial height, blocking opportunities for willing workers. It's a problem that hits women in the workplace hardest, according to Bloomberg Businessweek.

"Women make up around 96 percent of secretaries and administrative workers," the Bloomberg story said. "And admin jobs offer — or used to offer — one of the best paths to a middle-class income for women without college diplomas."

Degree inflation is making those jobs harder to get, at a time when they are disappearing anyway. Executives are booking their own meetings and travel, and other administrative work in today's offices requires advanced skills. Women lost 925,000 jobs in office and administrative support occupation between 2009 and 2011, the story said.

Some policy watchers are calling for changes.

"Requiring college degrees for jobs that don’t call for that kind of education is a sign that America is overinvesting in the wrong kinds of education," according to American Interest, a political blog. Author Walter Russell Mead suggests that new hires should be made on the basis of knowledge-based testing, and new laws should make it illegal to discriminate against people who don't have degrees for jobs that really don't require them.
 
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