The tread is about open carry, it got sidetracked, all i'm saying is if I lived under their laws and society. I would carry one, but I'm back in Canada now and don't feel the need for one. As far as beliefs go I agree with you I was born and have lived in Canada most of my life, I don't believe in having guns but when I lived there I did, It's just a different culture.Who are we as Canadians to tell the Americans how their laws and society should be, we wouldn't want them telling us to change ours.
US problem with open carry
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One side more than the other (and coincidentally that side gets far more money from the gun lobby).
Based on what? you stated a hypothetical. If ordinary citizens couldn't carry guns would they be more susceptible to crime or not? we don't know, I said it CAN be not is viewed as a deterrent. It's so easy for criminals to get guns down there they might become even more embolden to commit crimes knowing nobody else has a gun.
Yes the Republicans are more on that side than the Democrats but they won't go near that issue if they still want to stay in power, they have had power and at some point held all 3 branches of government and did nothing about it, that's how much it means to them, zero, it's just a talking point to keep the progressives happy. They have no intention going near the issue
Our guns laws are much tougher, you can't compare the two, actually our gun laws have gotten tougher yet gun crimes are much higher than they used to be, in Toronto anyway, that doesn't seem to fit your theory and narrative.
Gun crimes are much lower in Canada where you can't carry.
The US has the world's highest gun crimes for a developed country.
That kills your argument.
Yes they are the highest, no doubt but my point was about personal safety, it actually backs up my point because there are so many gun crimes having open carry to defend yourself is logical. Our gun laws have gotten tougher over time but gun crime rates are rising in Canada. What do you attribute that to?
Based on the number of gun deaths in the US continuing to climb? If it was a deterrent, those numbers would drop.
Also worth looking at is the rates of gun deaths by state. The most dangerous states are open carry and the states with the most restrictive gun laws are well on the less dangerous side.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_carry_in_the_United_States
Then why does gun control keep coming up with democrats?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...control-despite-political-risks-idUSKBN1KK134
You mean parannoia again.
And funny that your argument is Americans need to carry guns to protect themselves from other Americans who carry guns.
If we blind ourselves to the minimally-considered abolition of the Gun Registry and the precipitous destruction of its records, perhaps.
They had all 3 branches of government under Obama and did nothing about it, It's a talking point to keep progressives happy they have no intention of doing anything about it or they already have.
Ours are climbing too, yet we have strict gun laws , I ask you again what do you attribute that to, I see you didn't answer the question the first time I asked you that
Exactly if others have guns then you need one to protect yourself, don't get me wrong, I like our way of life better but you have to adapt to the situation you are living in, if everyone else has guns, well then...
Having the world's largest, least regulated handgun market just a couple of hours away across a still-porous border has something to do with it, as does the ever-growing population that imagines American-everything — including attitudes to competition, aggression and social interaction and how to deal with them — is better, or at least no different from Canadian.
But as an ordinary person I see no value in wasting my time guessing and speculating about such difficult and complex issues, or your time, even if you wanted to read it.
I agree the abundance of guns south of the border is probably the main reason, plus most of the guns coming in are illegal, and that was one of the points i was trying to stress in earlier posts. Criminals always have and always will be able to get guns regardless of the law. In Canada it hasn't reached the point where carrying a gun is necessary but down south it's a different story. I know you disagree and i see your rationale, but the experience of living in 5 different states over 10 years makes me think otherwise.
