Toronto Escorts

Ivanka Trump personal email account - hundreds of emails - government business

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
Butler, you forgot which team you're on.
You've been backing the extreme right wing, which means you're backing the guys that bailed out Trump after his dad died and couldn't.
As a right winger, Trump defender of all things, you are the one backing the plutocrat rule that fucked over the financial system of the US.

Get it together.
Not at all. I see Trump as a sign people are sick of the business as usual sell out politicians.

Now they just have to get Bernie to the Nomination and the real conversation can begin.

Clinton would have perpetuated the new bankster class. Trump's election speeds up it's being reined in.
 

Frankfooter

dangling member
Apr 10, 2015
79,716
17,562
113
Not at all. I see Trump as a sign people are sick of the business as usual sell out politicians.

Now they just have to get Bernie to the Nomination and the real conversation can begin.

Clinton would have perpetuated the new bankster class. Trump's election speeds up it's being reined in.
Too bad you've been here defending the plutocratic rule of the US by Trump and his swamp gang instead of talking about progressive ideas.
Makes these claims of yours sound as legit as Trump's 'no collusion' calls.

Your post show you as a Trump loving right winger who tries to troll the board with claims that he's really a left wing pinko, Bernie supporter.
Its not believable in the least.
 

essguy_

Active member
Nov 1, 2001
4,432
16
38
Oh I can. Because the place you work in fact is partially responsible for Trump.

Let's start with the fact you guys thought it was a great idea to loan this man money, repeatedly, for decades. How smart is that?

Then you guys, via various "formulas" are lending and packaging shoddy debt create the financial crises. Scream for cash, get bailed out, then go off and foreclose on over 4 million homes, pissing off say about 8+ million voters. As well you enable a bank like Wells Fargo to commit over two million individual acts of fraud, and by buying Congress not one charge laid.

Reagan rolled over in his grave for that.

And so because of the vacuum of responsibility to voters Trump rises.

That's who you work for and cheer for.

Did you notice the amount of progressives voted in? Go ahead and crow now about how it's a loss for Trump. Enough and you guys are next.

Btw thx for the info on Ferretti. Is was an example but not locked in stone. Still a long way away with many brands to choose from. And I will have to up my research game.

Butler - you have no clue. Case in point - the fact that you think i'm in the business of giving loans to scum like Trump. Another case in point - you've been on here talking about your dream Pershing Yacht, totally unaware that it's parent is now owned by the multi-national type company you claim to despise in the country (China) you abhor. Why didn't you know this? So you're poorly informed or a hypocrite or both. Here's a tip to avoid future embarrassment - make sure that your own "ethics" are above reproach before you start lecturing others on theirs.
 

danmand

Well-known member
Nov 28, 2003
46,353
4,776
113

wazup

Well-known member
Jun 12, 2010
4,280
581
113
The difference is is that Hillary is a guy and Ivanka is a chick, women usually get softer treatment. I would thoroughly investigate her vaginal area free of charge.
 

shack

Nitpicker Extraordinaire
Oct 2, 2001
46,705
7,980
113
Toronto
White House says Ivanka Trump didn't know she couldn't use personal email
So if we buy that, it means she is stupider than her father.

"Oh!!!!. Is that why they were yelling LOCK HER UP? Who knew?"
 

Big Sleazy

Active member
Sep 13, 2004
3,535
8
38
http://12160.info/profiles/status/show?id=2649739:Status:1848618

Newsweek broke the story 14 months ago !

In a statement to Fox News, Peter Mirijanian, the spokesperson for Trump's ethics lawyer Abbe Lowell, emphasized those distinctions to the Hillary Clinton email scandal that engulfed the 2016 presidential campaign.

"To address misinformation being peddled about Ms. Trump’s personal email, she did not create a private server in her house or office, there was never classified information transmitted, the account was never transferred or housed at Trump Organization, no emails were ever deleted, and the emails have been retained in the official account in conformity with records preservation laws and rules," Mirijanian said.
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
Butler - you have no clue. Case in point - the fact that you think i'm in the business of giving loans to scum like Trump. Another case in point - you've been on here talking about your dream Pershing Yacht, totally unaware that it's parent is now owned by the multi-national type company you claim to despise in the country (China) you abhor. Why didn't you know this? So you're poorly informed or a hypocrite or both. Here's a tip to avoid future embarrassment - make sure that your own "ethics" are above reproach before you start lecturing others on theirs.
You do work in finance. You do support everything I said you do.

And I wish I lived in a world where it was easier to buy local. I've seen challenges where authors attempted to live without buying Chinese for a month. And basically couldn't do it we have so sold ourselves.

Trade is fine. Unfettered trade that affects a nation's sovereignty is not. So yes at this point when looking at my dream that will happen. I also looked at Greenline hybrids, Diesel Ducks, and other brands.

And I've only looked. Not purchased.

But everyone of your posts on finance lead toward the same old story of lurching from one financial crisis to the next by creating overheated markets. Never do you discuss checks on finances. Of again seperating investment houses and banks. Of the continued erosion of accountability of those who claim to be the ones responsible in good times and screaming for cash in bad.

You work for and cheer for people who acted just like Trump. Showing up to Washington in Private Jets fedora in hand, picking winners and losers while millions suffered.

That's the type of business ethics you prop up.
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
Too bad you've been here defending the plutocratic rule of the US by Trump and his swamp gang instead of talking about progressive ideas.
Makes these claims of yours sound as legit as Trump's 'no collusion' calls.

Your post show you as a Trump loving right winger who tries to troll the board with claims that he's really a left wing pinko, Bernie supporter.
Its not believable in the least.
What you support is twisting of the law to obtain an outcome. I believe in the process first, not people. You would happily abandon lawful principles to get Trump. I see the greater threat of the erosion of democratic values if he isn't voted out cleanly.

Bernie is coming. In his quiet his he doing very real grassroots work to truly make a run I think.
 

bver_hunter

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2005
27,331
5,556
113
The investigation was shoddy and biased. Her server should have been confiscated and torn apart to see what was on it.
The only time it was really shoddy and biased, was when Comey re-opened the investigation just a couple of days before the General Elections. That was designed to mess her popularity in the polls and it was every effective, although once again there was no smoking gun!!
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
The only time it was really shoddy and biased, was when Comey re-opened the investigation just a couple of days before the General Elections. That was designed to mess her popularity in the polls and it was every effective, although once again there was no smoking gun!!
You really need to decide if Comey is a Trump supporters or Hillary Supporter.......
 

essguy_

Active member
Nov 1, 2001
4,432
16
38
You do work in finance. You do support everything I said you do.

And I wish I lived in a world where it was easier to buy local. I've seen challenges where authors attempted to live without buying Chinese for a month. And basically couldn't do it we have so sold ourselves.

Trade is fine. Unfettered trade that affects a nation's sovereignty is not. So yes at this point when looking at my dream that will happen. I also looked at Greenline hybrids, Diesel Ducks, and other brands.

And I've only looked. Not purchased.

But everyone of your posts on finance lead toward the same old story of lurching from one financial crisis to the next by creating overheated markets. Never do you discuss checks on finances. Of again seperating investment houses and banks. Of the continued erosion of accountability of those who claim to be the ones responsible in good times and screaming for cash in bad.

You work for and cheer for people who acted just like Trump. Showing up to Washington in Private Jets fedora in hand, picking winners and losers while millions suffered.

That's the type of business ethics you prop up.
Butler - you are SO clueless that it's laughable. Do you know how broad "working in Finance" is? Do you have any clue how much of our society could be painted with this broad, clueless brush? Further - you're a hypocrite. Your excuse about not being able to avoid "buying Chinese" is bullshit. You could do it, you're just too lazy and cheap. You were looking at your retirement boat totally ignorant to the fact that it's now a Chinese brand. Nothing wrong with that except for your comments which proved that you're either ignorant or a total hypocrite. Define "unfettered trade" because without demand, there would be no need for the supply. If it's unfettered it's because YOU demand it.

Secondly, how do you think countries like Canada and the U.S. (and every other major country) operate with deficits without people like me who "work in finance" (LOL)? Think about it before you reply. Eg: The U.S. deficit is going to be in the $Trillion range. Do you know what that means? That means that $1 Trillion of NEW DEBT will need to be raised, priced, distributed and subsequently traded. That's NEW debt, not including refinancing maturing debt and trading existing debt. How do you think that debt is priced? I worked at a US Primary dealer early in my career. Do you have any idea how to make a market? Because a Primary dealer is obligated to quote a two way price - no excuses. How long do you think you'd last having to make second to second decisions, take a view, reverse that view, take a loss, hedge a position - all happening at once in 7 to 9 figure amounts? You can't even take a view on Trump without sitting on the fence. How do you think an investor (perhaps one of the CPPIB managers who are looking after the growth of your Govt pension) buys and sells this debt in order to grow your retirement assets? And that's just the Govt debt. It's the same with corporations raising debt, it's the same with hospitals raising money to fund a new expansion. Then there are equity markets. Money markets. Derivatives. Do you know how and why futures markets originated? To help farmers. Shall I go on? Unless you plan to literally keep your savings in an old sock - then you're a hypocrite. Don't comment on that which you have ZERO understanding.
 

bver_hunter

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2005
27,331
5,556
113
You really need to decide if Comey is a Trump supporters or Hillary Supporter.......
Ridiculous assumption......!!

We know that Trump used this reason for conveniently finding an excuse to fire Comey, especially after he publicly thanked Comey for re-opening the investigation into Hillary's emails.
Do you think that the timing of re-opening the investigation was right? The actual reasoning that he fired Comey is because he did not pledge his loyalty to Trump, and he probably had some dirt on the Russia investigation. Trump probably thought that firing Comey would end that investigation altogether. We know where that is going!!
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
Butler - you are SO clueless that it's laughable. Do you know how broad "working in Finance" is? Do you have any clue how much of our society could be painted with this broad, clueless brush? Further - you're a hypocrite. Your excuse about not being able to avoid "buying Chinese" is bullshit. You could do it, you're just too lazy and cheap. You were looking at your retirement boat totally ignorant to the fact that it's now a Chinese brand. Nothing wrong with that except for your comments which proved that you're either ignorant or a total hypocrite. Define "unfettered trade" because without demand, there would be no need for the supply. If it's unfettered it's because YOU demand it.

Secondly, how do you think countries like Canada and the U.S. (and every other major country) operate with deficits without people like me who "work in finance" (LOL)? Think about it before you reply. Eg: The U.S. deficit is going to be in the $Trillion range. Do you know what that means? That means that $1 Trillion of NEW DEBT will need to be raised, priced, distributed and subsequently traded. That's NEW debt, not including refinancing maturing debt and trading existing debt. How do you think that debt is priced? I worked at a US Primary dealer early in my career. Do you have any idea how to make a market? Because a Primary dealer is obligated to quote a two way price - no excuses. How long do you think you'd last having to make second to second decisions, take a view, reverse that view, take a loss, hedge a position - all happening at once in 7 to 9 figure amounts? You can't even take a view on Trump without sitting on the fence. How do you think an investor (perhaps one of the CPPIB managers who are looking after the growth of your Govt pension) buys and sells this debt in order to grow your retirement assets? And that's just the Govt debt. It's the same with corporations raising debt, it's the same with hospitals raising money to fund a new expansion. Then there are equity markets. Money markets. Derivatives. Do you know how and why futures markets originated? To help farmers. Shall I go on? Unless you plan to literally keep your savings in an old sock - then you're a hypocrite. Don't comment on that which you have ZERO understanding.
See you are a bankster. Trying to use gobble gook to repackage debt as investment. It creates the. Very conditions that caused the crisis.

Why the hell should we trust you when you got it so very wrong and refuse to take responsibility?

You do realize that a financial institution can say no to lending right? Oh wait they will happily do it to a little guy, nickel and dime his accounts while continuing to support the Trump's of the world.

Which is exactly what you do with your voodoo debt economics.

I plan to have investments in rental property, safe blue chip, and my pensions. You know, real tangable assets. As to my pensions CPP doesn't invest in fly by night crap. And my other one is fully funded and has a great track record as well.

I do watch this shit. And I don't drink the Kool aid any more.
 

essguy_

Active member
Nov 1, 2001
4,432
16
38
See you are a bankster. Trying to use gobble gook to repackage debt as investment. It creates the. Very conditions that caused the crisis.

Why the hell should we trust you when you got it so very wrong and refuse to take responsibility?

You do realize that a financial institution can say no to lending right? Oh wait they will happily do it to a little guy, nickel and dime his accounts while continuing to support the Trump's of the world.

Which is exactly what you do with your voodoo debt economics.

I plan to have investments in rental property, safe blue chip, and my pensions. You know, real tangable assets. As to my pensions CPP doesn't invest in fly by night crap. And my other one is fully funded and has a great track record as well.

I do watch this shit. And I don't drink the Kool aid any more.



what.... the...... fuck..... are..... you..... talking..... about? "Bankster"?? what the hell is that? Is that how an idiot describes a person who "works in finance"? LOL!

You've said on this forum that you still have a mortgage. So your "tangible asset" has been financed via debt. Your "safe blue chips" are traded on an exchange by people like me so that people like you can invest in a piece of them. How exactly do you think that works, Butler? I mean, how is it possible for a person (an adult too) to as clueless as you apparently are?
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
what.... the...... fuck..... are..... you..... talking..... about? "Bankster"?? what the hell is that? Is that how an idiot describes a person who "works in finance"? LOL!

You've said on this forum that you still have a mortgage. So your "tangible asset" has been financed via debt. Your "safe blue chips" are traded on an exchange by people like me so that people like you can invest in a piece of them. How exactly do you think that works, Butler? I mean, how is it possible for a person (an adult too) to as clueless as you apparently are?
A bankster is a wonderful term. Sums up the mind set nicely.

My issue isn't with a properly regulated stock market. And for the most part it is. And the blue chips are in it for the long haul.

My issue is with banks and investment firms that take and repackage bad debt and sell it as something safe.
It's what caused the crises. And no amount of new formulas or fast talking can take away from this basic concept. .
You don't loan money to people who can't pay it back.

The the banks decided to. Both in the sub prime market and to various large loans for dubious individuals. Didn't they? And they lost. And had to beg for bail outs. And then screamed about unfair regulations.

Thankfully in Canada they didn't listen.

I'm a little guy. A nobody. Middle class. And in about 7 years I will be debt free. I have an 18 month cushion of cash if unemployment should hit. Multiple RRSP accounts, a small but growing blue chip stock account.

I'm just fine. Thanks. And will be able to get off the hamster wheel in due course with a carefully timed and well thought out diversified income stream, properly staged to take advantage of taxes.

The problem is banksters selling a shoddy dream for a quick buck.
 

Butler1000

Well-known member
Oct 31, 2011
28,707
3,400
113
And thanks again for the Pershing tip.

Look at Rizzardi Yachts if you like. The 2003 53 footer with mods jumped out at me the same time as Pershing did.
 

toguy5252

Well-known member
Jun 22, 2009
15,978
6,111
113
what.... the...... fuck..... are..... you..... talking..... about? "Bankster"?? what the hell is that? Is that how an idiot describes a person who "works in finance"? LOL!

You've said on this forum that you still have a mortgage. So your "tangible asset" has been financed via debt. Your "safe blue chips" are traded on an exchange by people like me so that people like you can invest in a piece of them. How exactly do you think that works, Butler? I mean, how is it possible for a person (an adult too) to as clueless as you apparently are?
I have a wall you can use if you like. Definitely more productive to bang you head against it than to attempt rationale debate with Butler.
 
Ashley Madison
Toronto Escorts