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Scientists behind a headline-grabbing climate study admitted they “really muffed” their paper.

Their study claimed to find 60 percent more warming in the oceans, but that was based on math errors.

The errors were initially spotted by scientist Nic Lewis, who called them “serious (but surely inadvertent) errors.”

The scientists behind a headline-grabbing global warming study did something that seems all too rare these days — they admitted to making mistakes and thanked the researcher, a global warming skeptic, who pointed them out.


“When we were confronted with his insight it became immediately clear there was an issue there,” study co-author Ralph Keeling told The San Diego Union-Tribune on Tuesday.

Their study, published in October, used a new method of measuring ocean heat uptake and found the oceans had absorbed 60 more heat than previously thought. Many news outlets relayed the findings, but independent scientist Nic Lewis quickly found problems with the study.

Keeling, a scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography, owned up to the mistake and thanked Lewis for finding it. Keeling and his co-authors submitted a correction to the journal Nature.

“We’re grateful to have it be pointed out quickly so that we could correct it quickly,” Keeling said.

In a statement posted online Friday, Keeling said “the combined effect of these two corrections to have a small impact on our calculations of overall heat uptake.” However, Keeling said the errors mean there are “larger margins of error” than they initially thought.


So, while Keeling said they still found there’s more warming than previously thought, there’s too much uncertainty to support their paper’s central conclusion that oceans absorbed 60 percent more heat than current estimates show.

“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling told The Union Tribune. “We really muffed the error margins.”

Keeling and his co-authors used the study to debut a new way of estimating ocean heat uptake by measuring the volume of carbon dioxide and oxygen in the atmosphere. Scientists are still intrigued by this method, but all the kinks need to be worked out.

“So far as I can see, their method vastly underestimates the uncertainty,” Lewis told The Washington Post in an interview Tuesday, “as well as biasing up significantly, nearly 30 percent, the central estimate.”

Lewis pointed out the errors in Keeling’s study in a blog post published Nov. 6 on climate scientist Judith Curry’s website. Lewis wrote that “[j]ust a few hours of analysis and calculations … was sufficient to uncover apparently serious (but surely inadvertent) errors in the underlying calculations.”

Lewis is an ardent critic of climate scientists’ over-reliance on climate models, which he says predict too much warming. Lewis and Curry published a study earlier in 2018 that found climate models overestimated global warming by as much as 45 percent.

Lewis’s corrections were quickly confirmed by University of Colorado professor Roger Pielke Jr. Pielke called Keeling’s acceptance and willingness to correct the mistakes a “lesson in graciousness.”

“Unfortunately, we made mistakes here,” Keeling told WaPo. “I think the main lesson is that you work as fast as you can to fix mistakes when you find them.”

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/scientists-mistakes-global-warming/
 

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Oh no, the error bars on their data will be slightly bigger.

But sure, pretend that it part of a conspiracy.
 

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Canada Man doesn’t believe anything scientists say anyway so it really makes no difference. Just another lying scientist telling more lies. LOL.
 

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Canada Man doesn’t believe anything scientists say anyway so it really makes no difference. Just another lying scientist telling more lies. LOL.
Climate Scientists Admit To Major Math Error After Global Warming Study Debunked

The co-author of a widely-cited global warming study has owned up to a major math error uncovered six days after its Oct. 31 publication by an independent scientist.




The study used a new method of measuring the ocean's absorption of heat, and concluded - through incorrect math - that 60% more heat had been absorbed than previously thought.

The report was covered or referenced by MSM outlets worldwide, including the Washington Post, New York Times, BBC, Reuters and others.

Shortly after the article was published, however, independent UK-based researcher Nicholas Lewis published a comprehensive blog post, claiming he had found a "major problem" with the research.

“So far as I can see, their method vastly underestimates the uncertainty,” Lewis said in an interview Tuesday, “as well as biasing up significantly, nearly 30 percent, the central estimate.”

Lewis added that he tends “to read a large number of papers, and, having a mathematics as well as a physics background, I tend to look at them quite carefully, and see if they make sense. And where they don’t make sense — with this one, it’s fairly obvious it didn’t make sense — I look into them more deeply.”

Lewis has argued in past studies and commentaries that climate scientists are predicting too much warming because of their reliance on computer simulations, and that current data from the planet itself suggests global warming will be less severe than feared. -Washington Post



"When we were confronted with his insight it became immediately clear there was an issue there," said Ralph Keeling, a scientist with the Scripps Institute of Oceanography who co-authored the paper with Princeton University scientist and lead author, Laure Resplandy. "We’re grateful to have it be pointed out quickly so that we could correct it quickly."

Keeling said they have since redone the calculations, finding the ocean is still likely warmer than the estimate used by the IPCC. However, that increase in heat has a larger range of probability than initially thought — between 10 percent and 70 percent, as other studies have already found.

“Our error margins are too big now to really weigh in on the precise amount of warming that’s going on in the ocean,” Keeling said. “We really muffed the error margins.” -San Diego Union-Tribune

"I accept responsibility for what happened because it’s my role to make sure that those kind of details got conveyed," Keeling told the Washington Post on Tuesday.
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Climate change deniers are selfish. They won't be around for our children to tell them "I told you so". So they can deny deny deny. Just because you're old (or stupid) doesn't mean you get to F up something so vital to human life. If you want to deny something, how about choosing something that won't affect others if you're wrong?
 

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Ahhh, hypocrites. One argument crops up to support their side, and they ignore the thousands of other arguments against.

This is how it's properly supposed to be done. Screw-ups get caught by third-party researchers, the study is challenged, and the author of the study admits his fault.

Unlike everything else these days where partisan morons dig in their heels even in light of contrary evidence, and believe everything supporting their side on faith.
 

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Climate change deniers are selfish. They won't be around for our children to tell them "I told you so". So they can deny deny deny. Just because you're old (or stupid) doesn't mean you get to F up something so vital to human life. If you want to deny something, how about choosing something that won't affect others if you're wrong?
Reading this all I have to say is that it blows my mind that anyone can be this colossally ignorant of facts. SMH.
 

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Ahhh, hypocrites. One argument crops up to support their side, and they ignore the thousands of other arguments against.

This is how it's properly supposed to be done. Screw-ups get caught by third-party researchers, the study is challenged, and the author of the study admits his fault.

Unlike everything else these days where partisan morons dig in their heels even in light of contrary evidence, and believe everything supporting their side on faith.
Exactly right. This is how science works. Transparent. Evidence. Standards for proof. Subject to correction based upon evidence. And that evidence is what drives the answer.

Unlike some in politics, or religion, where you start w the answer, and simply gather evidence consistent with it regardless of its quality, and reject or suppress evidence inconsistent with one's preordained answer.

Most caricatures of scientists just miss the boat entirely. Those who argue for mass conspiracies of scientists who simply go along with the group have never been to a convention of scientists LOL...
 

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Canada Man doesn’t believe anything scientists say anyway so it really makes no difference. Just another lying scientist telling more lies. LOL.
why are you not concerned with the spread of biology denialism spreading by the so called transgender movement?


climate change is not science it is based on ideology and manipulated computer models
 

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Exactly right. This is how science works. Transparent. Evidence. Standards for proof. Subject to correction based upon evidence. And that evidence is what drives the answer.

Unlike some in politics, or religion, where you start w the answer, and simply gather evidence consistent with it regardless of its quality, and reject or suppress evidence inconsistent with one's preordained answer.

Most caricatures of scientists just miss the boat entirely. Those who argue for mass conspiracies of scientists who simply go along with the group have never been to a convention of scientists LOL...
Indeed...Scientists are a bunch of miserable pricks all climbing over one another’s backs trying to get the next promotion while there is a surplus of phd’s trying to get jobs in academia. Tearing apart one’s colleagues is good sport for them. Finding a group of these guys who will agree on anything is highly unusual.
 

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Climate Scientists Admit To Major Math Error After Global Warming Study Debunked...
There is a huge difference between "debunked" and slightly larger margin of error. But why would you care about what the actual story is?
 

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why are you not concerned with the spread of biology denialism spreading by the so called transgender movement?

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Another example where you have no idea about science.

Sex is a biological characteristic that is determined by genetics. Even then, it is a simplification as there are people with atypical genes who display both male and female primary sexual characteristics.

Gender is concerned with how you feel and based on social and cultural norms. There is no scientific biological evidence to define feelings of gender.
 
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