Apparently the students are the ones who ratted the school out to the media because they weren't handling it well, they in turn then alerted the police.
Toronto Police investigating alleged group assault at St. Michael’s College School
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The incidents like this happen everywhere. Rich and poor.
We just don’t hear about them because of victim shame and embarassment (and fear). Same thing with sexual assault of women - very under reported for many reasons (including police lack of empathy or believing)
I can assure you in the demographics in the "rougher" areas of the city do hazing, but homosexuality is no joking matter. Sticking things up people's asses is not funny to people there.
Almost all schools have varying degree of issues. Here are just examples.
https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+manners+toronto+school&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ling-to-report-alleged-assault/article666251/
https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+manners+toronto+school&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ling-to-report-alleged-assault/article666251/
Makes you wonder whether Brampton Mayor elect, Patrick Brown, developed the alleged sexual deviant behaviour as a result of his environment. I actually empathize with him to some extent if he was exposed to a toxic rape culture in his formative years as a minor.
Though I don't condone Mr. Brown's alleged impropriety it is quite plausible. As he has vehemently denied the alleged behavior I don't see him coming clean anytime soon.
Food for thought.
This is what rape culture looks like: https://twitter.com/LaloDagach/status/1063681193978281984
But you're right that there is silence in our society around the treatment of male on male rape.
The game changer here is the recording of a criminal act on a minor and the subsequent release online of the videos that went vitality by the criminals. The perpetrators actually incriminated themselves. What did the school know and when did they know about this incident? The optics for the school are horrible as is their incompetence.
I guess the blacks just wait till they get to prison to turn to homosexuality. just kidding.
Sorry but you need proof before you make a claim like that about rougher schools.
I provided the story of the west Chicago teens who tortured someone on facebook and live streamed it.
http://www.blacknews.com/news/hazing-seen-as-possible-factor-in-black-college-students-death/
https://www.theatlantic.com/educati...-hazing-problem-at-black-fraternities/284452/
Here are two articles about problem of hazing at black frats and colleges.
That silence can be found in countless examples.... catholic church, hockey coaches, penn state/Sandusky, US gymnastics team doctor (albeit a female case). These are examples where there must have been people who knew or covered it up.
That silence is rape culture.
Predators know who to pick as victims. That is also a sign of a rape culture.
A recent article suggests there may be more incidents. That there may be 50 witnesses.
While some grads tout the school as being a great experience. Others have shared their stories (at least one person). Others grads say they "aren't surprised"
Hate to say it but this is not a case of a one off incident with one crazy person. Also, language like hazing/bullying is used as a euphemisms for what really happened.
Like it or not there's a pattern/culture.
Even Charlamange's assertations contributes to the rape culture by suggesting that it doesn't happen at rougher/black schools.
You can also find many examples of stories in which the town sides with the athletes and not the victims. Found one story about a wrestling team where two guys got a one day suspension for shoving a pencil up the kids ass.
Again evidence of a rape culture.
While some grads tout the school as being a great experience. Others have shared their stories (at least one person). Others grads say they "aren't surprised"
Hate to say it but this is not a case of a one off incident with one crazy person. Also, language like hazing/bullying is used as a euphemisms for what really happened.
Like it or not there's a pattern/culture.
Even Charlamange's assertations contributes to the rape culture by suggesting that it doesn't happen at rougher/black schools.
You can also find many examples of stories in which the town sides with the athletes and not the victims. Found one story about a wrestling team where two guys got a one day suspension for shoving a pencil up the kids ass.
Again evidence of a rape culture.
It's people like you that think all black people are the same lol.
Huge difference between African American verses Caribbean/West Indian culture, especially with respect to homophobia. You just used American articles lol. That's like comparing British to Eastern European culture, most black people in Toronto/Gta are of African or Caribbean/West Indian descent.
Do you mean, while the whites do it in and out of prison?
But anyway, you keep referring to the Facebook thing. Did that involve sticking items up someone's ass?
I can only remember an incident where someone was tortured and harassed, but I don't remember it being sexual or even penetrative.
Makes sense, you deal with a violent and sadistic culture will good old conservative doses of sadism and violence. I am sure the Catholic hierarchy would be fully supportive...if you let them have a go at the kids
It's amazing to me reading through this thread since it started how many on here bring their own biases and slanted opinions based on blindly trusting headlines. Everything from bashing Catholics to blaming kids who happen to come from wealthy families.
Yet no one know who those kids are, ie many under privileged kids attend private schools on scholarships, bursaries, etc.
And yet it becomes a story about alleged Catholic rich kids rather than the actual incident itself that unfortunately happens everywhere.
Everyone quick to call it a cover up without really knowing the facts. This is what our society has become: a platform for people to vent their own prejudices.
Here are the facts from former alumni who attended the principal's alumni meeting last night where he went through the sequence of events hour by hour:
Summary:
The 1st incident (kid in sink) came to the school's attention Monday morning. After verifying the identities of the kids in a video, the police were called. The community police officer went to the school and advised the principal to contact the parents before any charges would be laid.
The principal did that as well as proceeded to expel students involved in the incident Tuesday through to Wednesday morning.
Tuesday, the school was made aware of the 2nd incident (gang rape with broom). The principal identified the victim and met him. The kid asked the principal to help him explain what happened to his father.
Based on the guidance provided by the officer the previous day about 1st incident, the principal contacted the victim's parents and was advised by the boy's father that his mother was out of town and would return Wednesday morning at which time he would talk to her and get back to the principal about the incident and next steps.
The community officer returned to the school Wednesday as he had heard about the sink incident expulsions and wanted to follow up on the incident itself.
While the officer was there, the principal showed him the rape incident video and informed the officer that he had already contacted the victim's parents and was waiting to hear back from them.
Lots more details in between the above that completely contradict what the media has reported to date.
So before people lash out about a cover up to distract from this horrible incident, perhaps wait for facts to come out.
Don't let your hatred of Catholics and wealthy people blind you from the truth.
These details will be reported by the media soon, but you can take it as fact.
Trust me.
Yet no one know who those kids are, ie many under privileged kids attend private schools on scholarships, bursaries, etc.
And yet it becomes a story about alleged Catholic rich kids rather than the actual incident itself that unfortunately happens everywhere.
Everyone quick to call it a cover up without really knowing the facts. This is what our society has become: a platform for people to vent their own prejudices.
Here are the facts from former alumni who attended the principal's alumni meeting last night where he went through the sequence of events hour by hour:
Summary:
The 1st incident (kid in sink) came to the school's attention Monday morning. After verifying the identities of the kids in a video, the police were called. The community police officer went to the school and advised the principal to contact the parents before any charges would be laid.
The principal did that as well as proceeded to expel students involved in the incident Tuesday through to Wednesday morning.
Tuesday, the school was made aware of the 2nd incident (gang rape with broom). The principal identified the victim and met him. The kid asked the principal to help him explain what happened to his father.
Based on the guidance provided by the officer the previous day about 1st incident, the principal contacted the victim's parents and was advised by the boy's father that his mother was out of town and would return Wednesday morning at which time he would talk to her and get back to the principal about the incident and next steps.
The community officer returned to the school Wednesday as he had heard about the sink incident expulsions and wanted to follow up on the incident itself.
While the officer was there, the principal showed him the rape incident video and informed the officer that he had already contacted the victim's parents and was waiting to hear back from them.
Lots more details in between the above that completely contradict what the media has reported to date.
So before people lash out about a cover up to distract from this horrible incident, perhaps wait for facts to come out.
Don't let your hatred of Catholics and wealthy people blind you from the truth.
These details will be reported by the media soon, but you can take it as fact.
Trust me.
When "rape culture" is thrown around, it's rarely done to describe male-on-male rape. You know that.
There is no "rape culture" as the term is used in mainstream discourse.
And what exactly does that clip have to do with this story?
So no comment about the info I provided just more off topic distraction?
