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Trump signs executive order blocking asylum for illegal immigrants

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On this he's got much more brain than our loser PM

A day after his administration set out new rules on how to deal with asylum seekers, President Donald Trump signed a new executive action which would not allow people who enter the United States illegally to ask for asylum, requiring anyone who wants that protection to petition at an official crossing along the southern border with Mexico.

“We need people in our country but they have to come in legally and they have to have merit,” the President said, as he made another move to block those in an immigration “caravan” in Mexico from getting into the U.S.

“They have to come in to our country legally,” Mr. Trump told reporters, just before he boarded Air Force One for a trip to France.

It was clear that the new executive action signed by the President was issued with the ‘caravans’ in mind, as the document started by addressing its possible approach to the border in coming weeks.
“The continuing and threatened mass migration of aliens with no basis for admission into the United States through our southern border has precipitated a crisis and undermines the integrity of our borders,” the President stated.

“I therefore must take immediate action to protect the national interest, and to maintain the effectiveness of the asylum system for legitimate asylum seekers who demonstrate that they have fled persecution and warrant the many special benefits associated with asylum,” he added in the executive action.

Democrats in Congress scoffed at the President’s move, as legal groups said it would likely be challenged in court.
“US law specifically allows individuals to apply for asylum whether or not they are at a port of entry,” the ACLU said, as the civil liberties group filed suit by mid-afternoon on Friday against the President’s plan.

“Neither the president nor his cabinet can override the clear commands of our law, but that's exactly what they're trying to do,” the ACLU said in a tweet. “We'll see him in court.”

The lawsuit charged that the President had ignored federal law, which specifically says that people can seek asylum no matter how they get to the United States.

“Consistent with its international obligations, Congress was specific and clear,” the ACLU wrote in its lawsuit. “Entering without inspection is not a basis to categorically deny asylum to refugees.”
The executive order used language similar to that in the revised travel order issued by the President, which was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

This case may also take a similar route through the courts.

https://www.fox23.com/news/politics...king-asylum-for-illegal-immigrants/869708699?
 

Knuckle Ball

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It’s illegal...but it may hold up in the Supreme Court anyway now that trump and the rapeublicans have stacked it with conservatives.

However, the Exec Order will be repealed once a Dem President takes over in 2020. Stupid shit like this would obviously never make it through Congress.
 

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It’s illegal...but it may hold up in the Supreme Court anyway now that trump and the rapeublicans have stacked it with conservatives.

However, the Exec Order will be repealed once a Dem President takes over in 2020. Stupid shit like this would obviously never make it through Congress.
every country has the same law. illegals cannot apply for asylum
 

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Knuckle Ball

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http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/jamaica-not-accepting-refugees

According to the Economic and Social Survey Jamaica 2016, no application for the granting of refugee status was approved during the year.
LOL...Well then I stand corrected. I of course should have consulted the Economic and Social Survey Jamaica 2016.

I was just going by the International Refugee and Human Rights treaties that pretty much every country in the world has signed on to since 1951 but...whatev.
 

basketcase

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every country has the same law. illegals cannot apply for asylum
Actually wrong. All that is required by countries under the UN Convention on Refugees is that the person enters territory of that country, whether at a official border crossing or not.
 

mandrill

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The order is clearly illegal, as it contravenes the current immigration and refugee legislation passed by Congress in the 1960's.

If Trump wants to change the immigration law in the US, he can ask the House to pass new legislation. I'm sure they'll bend over backwards.
 

Zaibetter

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On this he's got much more brain than our loser PM

A day after his administration set out new rules on how to deal with asylum seekers, President Donald Trump signed a new executive action which would not allow people who enter the United States illegally to ask for asylum, requiring anyone who wants that protection to petition at an official crossing along the southern border with Mexico.

“We need people in our country but they have to come in legally and they have to have merit,” the President said, as he made another move to block those in an immigration “caravan” in Mexico from getting into the U.S.

“They have to come in to our country legally,” Mr. Trump told reporters, just before he boarded Air Force One for a trip to France.

It was clear that the new executive action signed by the President was issued with the ‘caravans’ in mind, as the document started by addressing its possible approach to the border in coming weeks.
“The continuing and threatened mass migration of aliens with no basis for admission into the United States through our southern border has precipitated a crisis and undermines the integrity of our borders,” the President stated.

“I therefore must take immediate action to protect the national interest, and to maintain the effectiveness of the asylum system for legitimate asylum seekers who demonstrate that they have fled persecution and warrant the many special benefits associated with asylum,” he added in the executive action.

Democrats in Congress scoffed at the President’s move, as legal groups said it would likely be challenged in court.
“US law specifically allows individuals to apply for asylum whether or not they are at a port of entry,” the ACLU said, as the civil liberties group filed suit by mid-afternoon on Friday against the President’s plan.

“Neither the president nor his cabinet can override the clear commands of our law, but that's exactly what they're trying to do,” the ACLU said in a tweet. “We'll see him in court.”

The lawsuit charged that the President had ignored federal law, which specifically says that people can seek asylum no matter how they get to the United States.

“Consistent with its international obligations, Congress was specific and clear,” the ACLU wrote in its lawsuit. “Entering without inspection is not a basis to categorically deny asylum to refugees.”
The executive order used language similar to that in the revised travel order issued by the President, which was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

This case may also take a similar route through the courts.

https://www.fox23.com/news/politics...king-asylum-for-illegal-immigrants/869708699?
Good for him at least he may be able to stop the army of migrants coming up. The Groper wants them in...
 

mandrill

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Good for him at least he may be able to stop the army of migrants coming up. The Groper wants them in...
Can you give me your legal analysis of the president's power to over-ride a congressional law with an executive order?

I'll wait.
 

Zaibetter

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Can you give me your legal analysis of the president's power to over-ride a congressional law with an executive order?

I'll wait.
I don't give a shit, whatever he can do to stop them...even temporarily delay them ..even if he's challenged is good. Better than the Libtard Pervert that does shit and woke up at the last minute and decided to be tough at our border.
 

mandrill

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Good for him at least he may be able to stop the army of migrants coming up. The Groper wants them in...

BTW, the "Groper" just showed the class to stand bareheaded in the pouring rain honouring our war dead while your hero Trump stayed in his warm hotel room and didn't give a shit. It's interesting to see who you support.
 

mandrill

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I don't give a shit, whatever he can do to stop them...even temporarily delay them ..even if he's challenged is good. Better than the Libtard Pervert that does shit and woke up at the last minute and decided to be tough at our border.
C'mon Zaibetter, tell us all how that executive order can even hope to be legal?

Won't it be struck down by the first judge who reads it within 5 minutes of landing on his / her desk?

It's just a silly grandstanding ploy. Trump KNOWS it's not legal. It's just an attempt to distract people from the fact the GOP just lost a massive election. It's not going to "delay" asylum claims at all. It's such a hopeless fraud, no judge - even a GOP appointee - will do more than shake his head and laugh as he throws it out.
 

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I don't give a shit, whatever he can do to stop them...even temporarily delay them ..even if he's challenged is good. Better than the Libtard Pervert that does shit and woke up at the last minute and decided to be tough at our border.
Another right winger scared of the invading brown people.
Must suck to be so afraid of people who are smarter then you and will take your jobs if they get in here.
 

Zaibetter

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BTW, the "Groper" just showed the class to stand bareheaded in the pouring rain honouring our war dead while your hero Trump stayed in his warm hotel room and didn't give a shit. It's interesting to see who you support.
Big fucking deal, what a hero....:rofl: in the meantime Trump does something for his people and army while Trudeau the groper, takes in illegal economic immigrants, fixes his hair and takes selfies.
 

Zaibetter

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Another right winger scared of the invading brown people.
Must suck to be so afraid of people who are smarter then you and will take your jobs if they get in here.
If the're anything like you, we have reason to be afraid...
 

Zaibetter

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C'mon Zaibetter, tell us all how that executive order can even hope to be legal?

Won't it be struck down by the first judge who reads it within 5 minutes of landing on his / her desk?

It's just a silly grandstanding ploy. Trump KNOWS it's not legal. It's just an attempt to distract people from the fact the GOP just lost a massive election. It's not going to "delay" asylum claims at all. It's such a hopeless fraud, no judge - even a GOP appointee - will do more than shake his head and laugh as he throws it out.
Whatever he can do is good. Better than Justin the groper that doesn't even try and just takes them in and then decides 2 years latter that he has to be tougher. He probably figured out that most Canadian are not happy with what he's doing.
 

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I think Americans should be more worried about health care insurance (they really don't have health care).
 
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