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Rampant Welfare Fraud Is A Myth Ontario PCs Have Used To Vilify The Poor

K Douglas

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Jan 5, 2005
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Insurance fraud is a problem, so we should close the insurance industry?
Where the fuck did I ever say we need to shut down the welfare system? I just pointed out there is fraud and they should be prosecuting more cases. Almost half a million people in Ontario receive some form of welfare benefits. $3B for Ontario Works financial assistance plus $5.1B for disability support plus a portion of the $1.2B in Drug Benefits Program.

The city of Ottawa alone has seen a 50% increase in referred cases for fraud investigation in just 5 years. About 300 cases per month on average. Of those about 45 of them result in a termination of benefits. My guess is that the city is being lenient but we'll take it for what it is. So that's 540 terminations per year out of a case load of about 37,000 recipients. About 1.5%. If we extrapolate that across the province 1.5% x $8.1B in benefits equals $121.5M of potential fraud in the system. And that's a conservative amount. But the left thinks that should just be ignored.
 

JohnLarue

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Jan 19, 2005
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He promised a bunch of contradictory bullshit and you were happy to buy that transparent load of shit.
As opposed to the alternative choices who were quite upfront that they will never be financially responsible???
It was an easy choice

Please explain how the Ont liberals or NDP were going to address the debt issue?

Oh yes their solution to a debt problem was to ignore it and continue to run deficits until insolvency forced their hand
 

JohnLarue

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How stupid are you?
There is a deficit of $14.5 billion this year, down from $15 billion previously forecast.
$3.2 billion in spending cuts were offset by $2.7 billion in lost revenue.
Explain how you got increased spending from that?
I will type slowly so you can keep up
Spending cuts does not mean increased spending

Karl Marx promised communism would be utopia & you fell for it.
Too bad you also feel your commie ideology is free licence to spread false & misleading propaganda

Now put on your dunce cap & go sit in the corner


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...-conservative-government-scraps-basic-income/
Ontario Works and the Ontario Disability Support Program, which now have a combined budget of $8.7-billion. Nearly a million people use the two systems and someone on Ontario Works is currently entitled to a maximum of $721 a month.
Nearly a million people. That one out of every 14 people in Ont, much higher if calculated as a % of the workforce
$8.7 B will be the fourth largest budgetary item after health care, education and interest payments
That is not sustainable
 

Frankfooter

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How smart are you?


Explain how you got increased spending from that?
I will type slowly so you can keep up
Spending cuts does not mean increased spending

Karl Marx promised communism would be utopia & you fell for it.
Too bad you also feel your commie ideology is free licence to spread false & misleading propaganda

Now put on your dunce cap & go sit in the corner
Ah, larue, its right there in your quote.
spending cuts were offset by $2.7 billion in lost revenue.
The Star details how Ford has tried to add in liberal election promises to make the deficit look bigger.
https://www.thestar.com/politics/pr...ent-vulnerable-children-and-francophones.html
He's also dropping taxes on the rich.

By the way, here's another excellent example of how successful the economic policies you preach are in the real world.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...as-inflicted-great-misery-on-citizens-un-says

Keep pushing those tired old policies that have failed every single time they've been tried.

You really are turning into Mr Potter.
 
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