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Islamic no-go zone in Australia

mandrill

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How's this for the religion of peace?? :biggrin1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqY4Z1fTrMc

This issue was raised by Aardvark and Zaibetter in another thread re Islamic no go areas in the UK. There seem to be none. The most credible evidence of any was in a BBC documentary which is either exaggerated and sensationalized or out of date. There is no reference to Islamic no go areas in any current UK Far right material AFAIK - and I follow it closely.

I am guessing that the allegations about Islamic no go areas in Australia is just copy cat nonsense.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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This issue was raised by Aardvark and Zaibetter in another thread re Islamic no go areas in the UK. There seem to be none. The most credible evidence of any was in a BBC documentary which is either exaggerated and sensationalized or out of date. There is no reference to Islamic no go areas in any current UK Far right material AFAIK - and I follow it closely.

I am guessing that the allegations about Islamic no go areas in Australia is just copy cat nonsense
Did you even watch the video?? She was not allowed to go anywhere near the street the mosque was located, or she'd be arrested.

That technically meets the definition of a no-go area
 

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A woman who obviously wants to cause a disturbance is stopped by the police. Nothing to do with no-go zones unless you believe white supremacist provocateurs.
 

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Did you even watch the video?? She was not allowed to go anywhere near the street the mosque was located, or she'd be arrested.

That technically meets the definition of a no-go area
He doesn't watch them, he just blabbers on, he did the same with mine. I posted a journalistic hidden video of a mosque in London were they were teaching to kill apostates, he had no answer. Don't waste your breath.
 

Frankfooter

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You guys forget that Phil and the right wingers are just really, really scared of dark people.
So they see no go zones where other people just see a neighbourhood.

Must suck to be so scared all the time.
 

mandrill

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He doesn't watch them, he just blabbers on, he did the same with mine. I posted a journalistic hidden video of a mosque in London were they were teaching to kill apostates, he had no answer. Don't waste your breath.

Actually, I had a lot of answers. Phil can go read the thread.
 

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Did you even watch the video?? She was not allowed to go anywhere near the street the mosque was located, or she'd be arrested.

That technically meets the definition of a no-go area

Phil, so you conned me into wasting 4 minutes of my life watching your stupid video. Synopsis of video: - Professional hate-stirrer and notorious Muslim-taunter goes to Muslim area that "she's heard" is a no-go zone. She takes a camera-crew and starts video-ing people on the street. They ignore her.

A cop shows up and tells her not to go to the local mosque because he is afraid that she will provoke a confrontation by being belligerent. She objects.

Conclusion: - Video proves dick. Phil has wasted everybody's time. Phil owes everybody an apology for his nonsense.
 

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Did you even watch the video?? She was not allowed to go anywhere near the street the mosque was located, or she'd be arrested.

That technically meets the definition of a no-go area
That misrepresents what she was told and what the video shows. If there's a technical definition of a no-go area please post it, so we can have a useful discussion.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Isnt it ironic the usual defenders of Islam came running to this thread pretty quick :biggrin1:
 

Phil C. McNasty

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That misrepresents what she was told and what the video shows. If there's a technical definition of a no-go area please post it, so we can have a useful discussion
The point of the thread was to point out how free speech and free movement isnt allowed when Islam comes under criticism.
This goes against all democratic principles.

Are we allowed to criticize scientology?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize televangelists and faith-healers?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Catholic kiddie fucking priests?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Islam?? NO!!!!! You can't do that or you'll be arrested!!! No free speech allowed!!
 

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The point of the thread was to point out how free speech and free movement isnt allowed when Islam comes under criticism.
This goes against all democratic principles.

Are we allowed to criticize scientology?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize televangelists and faith-healers?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Catholic kiddie fucking priests?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Islam?? NO!!!!! You can't do that or you'll be arrested!!! No free speech allowed!!

You miss out a lot of background. The commentator in question appears to have a Twitter presence as far right commentator on Islam.

If someone came to my neighbourhood, prowled around with a camera crew and stood outside my local church or community centre for a prolonged period of time filming peeps going in and out, I would expect some blowback from the residents. I might even be among the residents blowing back. If that person was known to be hostile to the peeps in my neighbourhood, I would be even more likely to blow back.

The commentator in question is clearly looking for a reaction. That is why she is going through this entire exercise and filming it. If the cop wasn't there, she would try and get a reaction from the locals - which she would then claim constituted an "Islamic no go Zone". ("Hey look, potential financial contributors, I'm white and brown people are in my face telling me to fuck off and get out of their street!")

It's a set up and the commentator used whatever came to hand to make her vid.

What she DOESN'T get is anything that would constitute an "Islamic no go Zone". There are no belligerent Imams, no ISIS banners, no Sharia law posters, no bands of tough brown youths with fluffy beards. I don't think I even saw a hijab.

She was told by the police to go away and not provoke people.

Now that doesn't interfere with her free speech. She can - and no doubt does - criticize Muslims on the Net all the time. No one stops her.

People who rail against Catholic child sexual abuse can rail against the clergy on the internet all the want. They can't go and stand outside churches and videotape people going in and out. "Breach of the Peace", it's called. The cops would do exactly the same to those folks that they did to the rightie woman in the video.

You now owe me for another 5 minutes of my life, Phil. Hand over your pension cheque. The cats will have to get by on the bargain cat food this month.
 

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The point of the thread was to point out how free speech and free movement isnt allowed when Islam comes under criticism.
This goes against all democratic principles.

Are we allowed to criticize scientology?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize televangelists and faith-healers?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Catholic kiddie fucking priests?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Islam?? NO!!!!! You can't do that or you'll be arrested!!! No free speech allowed!!
The point is that a paid agitator failed to get a rise, despite their best attempts.

Sounds like yet another right winger failure.
 

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The point of the thread was to point out how free speech and free movement isnt allowed when Islam comes under criticism. ...
Sending Dawkins with a film crew to a church or frankfrooter to a synagogue will get the exact same results. The police step in to provent incitement.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Phil C. McNasty

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You miss out a lot of background. The commentator in question appears to have a Twitter presence as far right commentator on Islam.

If someone came to my neighbourhood, prowled around with a camera crew and stood outside my local church or community centre for a prolonged period of time filming peeps going in and out, I would expect some blowback from the residents. I might even be among the residents blowing back. If that person was known to be hostile to the peeps in my neighbourhood, I would be even more likely to blow back
Then you're part of the problem too. Democracies are not supposed to work like that.
If you cant control yourself and get violent at any constructive criticism levied at you, then its you who's at fault.

Not that a 95-year old man could do much damage though, I'm pretty sure even Laura Southern could kick your ass :biggrin1:
 

mandrill

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Then you're part of the problem too. Democracies are not supposed to work like that.
If you cant control yourself and get violent at any constructive criticism levied at you, then its you who's at fault.

Not that a 95-year old man could do much damage though, I'm pretty sure even Laura Southern could kick your ass

Phil. what you refer to as "constructive criticism" involves someone who makes money from publishing extremist Muslim-baiting pieces on Twitter and elsewhere - because they ALL do that. It's the career model for these people and it's highly competitive. That's why they're out there with camera crews setting up dramas that they can post on their pages to attract guys like you.

If someone who had a track record of posting on Twitter that everyone in my neighborhood was an asshole and mocking their ways and their beliefs arrived one day with a camera crew and just stooged around videotaping outside a church / mosque / community centre, people are going to go over and say their piece to that person. Nothing violent - at first. But words are going to be exchanged and things might escalate. And that's what she's looking for and she's going to press buttons to make sure she gets the reaction. Without a confrontation, that video isn't usable. A confrontation of some sort is the cum shot of the video.

She's not going to announce that it's a "Muslim no go zone" and then use the video if people are waving at her and inviting her in to try their falafel and hummus. Sort of defeats the purpose of being a Muslim-hater and wastes all the time and $ and effort put into doing the video in the first place.

I know it. The very senior cop who intervened knew it. Somehow it eludes you.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Phil. what you refer to as "constructive criticism" involves someone who makes money from publishing extremist Muslim-baiting pieces on Twitter and elsewhere - because they ALL do that. It's the career model for these people and it's highly competitive. That's why they're out there with camera crews setting up dramas that they can post on their pages to attract guys like you
Unless you have a crystal ball, you have no idea what questions she was gonna ask them.

So again, you're just speculating and assuming


I know it. The very senior cop who intervened knew it. Somehow it eludes you
Have Laura do a piece on scientology or pedophilia in Catholic church. I guarantee you the cops would do nothing
 

oldjones

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The point of the thread was to point out how free speech and free movement isnt allowed when Islam comes under criticism.
This goes against all democratic principles.

Are we allowed to criticize scientology?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize televangelists and faith-healers?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Catholic kiddie fucking priests?? Yes we are.
Are we allowed to criticize Islam?? NO!!!!! You can't do that or you'll be arrested!!! No free speech allowed!!
Free speech is a different topic; it has nothing to do with permitted and prohibited areas:
you said:
Did you even watch the video?? She was not allowed to go anywhere near the street the mosque was located, or she'd be arrested.

That technically meets the definition of a no-go area
So what technical definition is that? Even free speech has to meet some minimal standard for accuracy and truth.

<crickets>

While we wait, on your new topic: Since you did ask: "Are we allowed to criticize Islam?" Answer: Absolutely, just as much as you are allowed to criticize the one other 'religion' and the various sorts of religious practitioners, you also asked about. You are dead wrong to say doing so will get you arrested, at least in Canada.

So now, along with that earlier definition you still owe, please supply some evidence that merely criticizing Islam will get you, or anyone arrested. I respect your right to speak freely, but the sloppy, exaggerated way you're using that speech is costing you whatever personal respect I might have had.
 
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