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Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazer!

Insidious Von

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Howard Cosell's most famous call.

Smokin Joe, worked the body to get his opponents to drop their arms. That's how he beat Ali in their first fight. Foreman hit him on the liver (4:06) straightening Joe up - the rest was target practice. If this fight were held today, it would not go past the second knockdown. Poor Joe, forced to do the ruction dance twice.

 

Insidious Von

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Ali watched Foreman fight again against Norton. He knew he had unlimited punching power but he also knew that he telegraphed his punches. Ali knew he had to defend, let Foreman puch himself out and pick his spots.

Foreman was smarter than the experts gave him credit for, he learned a thing or two from Ali. He learned how to defend himself and deliver shorter punches. Lot sure if he invented the grill but lending his name to it made it a must have.

Foreman would have messed Tyson up.

 

Insidious Von

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Tyson proved that he had a strong chin against Razor Ruddock, he took his best punches before knocking him out.

Against Foreman that wouldn't have mattered. Tyson went to jail for being a masher, avoiding Foreman, although his lawyer should have been disbarred.

 

curr3n_c1000

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I'd like to believe tyson would win because he had that one punch power. But if I had to bet I'd go foreman, too big and George was bit more crafty in his later ages. But again Holyfield stunned Foreman a few times, so who's to say mike wouldn't finish him?

Fun fact. Tyson should have won the Buster Douglas fight. The refs count was off on the Douglas' knockdown. Talk about bad luck.
 

unassuming

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Ernie Shavers,according to boxing experts was the hardest puncher of all time, too bad he and Foreman never hooked up, that would have been one brutal fight!
 

Smallcock

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Is it just me of did Frazier have really poor defense? He never protected his head. I saw this in his Ali fight too. Guy had a really strong chin and just allowed his head to be a punching bag.
 
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