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The August date of the destruction of Pompeii and Herculaneum is likely wrong

jcpro

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Unlikely that Pliny would confuse the date of the eruption and the death of his uncle. Things like that tend to stand out in memory.
 

oldjones

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I'm as skeptical as jcpro. It seems more than a little self-contradictory to say, "Being charcoal, fragile and evanescent, which could not last a long time, it is more than likely that it was written in October 79 AD," and to base your dating of a huge geological event on its fleeting quality, when that bit of writing was still around to recently catch your eye some 19 centuries later.

In the words of Python: A new definition of "evanescent', with which I am unfamiliar.
 

Drizzt

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A lot of our History is wrong. The problem lies with Academia. History academics refuse to accept anything that may alter what they have studied for years. The exact opposite of Science. With Science you are constantly trying to disprove theories and come up with your own. Egyptoligists are the worst. There is mounting evidence that their dates are all wrong but they simply refuse to change.
 

oldjones

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A lot of our History is wrong. The problem lies with Academia. History academics refuse to accept anything that may alter what they have studied for years. The exact opposite of Science. With Science you are constantly trying to disprove theories and come up with your own. Egyptoligists are the worst. There is mounting evidence that their dates are all wrong but they simply refuse to change.
If the evidence is changing enough that you call it "mounting", then it hasn't yet reached a standard that even you would be ready to call 'proof'. Science describes what is, and its proofs can be demonstrated and repeated. Even so, scientists still sometimes misunderstand, misinterpret and get things wrong, or argue and resist altering what they have studied for years. But at least they can hope that when they agree, they've got a Law.

History is story-telling. Stories about what was but is no longer. Each single thing that has survived, and still 'is', must be interpreted by individuals, each piecing together their own story from the different assemblies of fragmentary evidence they know. Of course arriving at a common story will have 'progressives' looking to disprove earlier stories and come up with their own and 'conservatives' who refuse to accept anything that may alter the story they knew of old. For historians, there can never be the certainty of science, because every story is always changed by the telling.
 

y2kmark

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Huh?

There are contemporanos-or nearly- historical accounts, aren't there?
 

Insidious Von

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Mt. Vesuvius blowing its lid was a small price to pay for the blessing Ancient Rome got.

The Ice Age would have expanded further if not for the volcanic eruption across South Eastern Europe from Italy to Anatolia. Also volcanic activity started up in North America with the creations of Mt St Helens, Shasta and Ranier. Massive ice shelfs exerts tremendous pressure on the Earth's crust, inevitably cracks appear. As the ice retreated most of the volcanoes in Central Italy went dormant. They soon filled with fresh water from dormant underground vents and rainfall. The Ancient Romans took advantage, the first sewers were built 200 years before Augustus became Emperor.

Eventually Vulcan would levy a tax as in 79 AD.

 
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