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New World

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To my surprise I just received a letter saying my drivers license is suspended. As a result I walk over to the Service Ontario, stand in line to try and find out why. Im not aware of any outstanding tickets against my license as I paid my texting and driving fine back from 2013. As I ask the service ontario associate why my license is suspended she indicates to me that there are no outstading issues and is not sure why my license is suspened. Then i proceed to call the city of Toronto prosecution office thet have no records. Any one have any ideas?
 

happydog

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I have heard of a few people get letters for a medical review but, usually takes a few days and not on permanent record.
 

explorerzip

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Is the original letter authentic? Maybe it's a scam?!
A scam letter would likely tell you not to visit city hall, Service Ontario and to call or mail a check directly to an address. I'm sure there are people out there that would fall for something like this.
 

oldjones

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Not enough details in the OP: A genuine official letter should cite the bylaw or statute that authorized the suspension, and give the full name of the government agency that ordered it and sent the letter. Otherwise, it would be quite likely you wouldn't take it seriously, or know what to do about it.

On that score: A genuine letter should instruct you about what to do now, and how; whether that's no more than how to stay legal, but probably also where and how to lodge a protest, such as 'you are advised to seek legal advice if you wish to appeal'. Otherwise they'd be swamped with people asking the wrong questions in the wrong places.

If you have the slightest doubt about the letter, take it to the front desk of your local cop-shop. They've seen the genuine article, and they're usually very helpful to citizens who are sincerely trying to do the right thing, even the erring ones. If the wheels of bureaucracy actually functioned, they have their own confirming record of your license status.

And if it is a scam, it's their business
 

james t kirk

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The city of Toronto has nothing to do with Drivers Licenses.

If you had a pile of outstanding parking tickets, the city would just flag you to MTO and when you went to renew your sticker, they would not sell you one till you paid up.
 

oldjones

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The Ombudsman has recently slammed the MoT for its inefficient and unfair administration of license suspensions. The standout failure is that they do not follow-up in any way when the notices they send out are returned as undeliverable. So when a driver pays and clears their unpaid fines, not realizing their license has already been suspended, no one tells them that it won't be re-instated until they pay a separate fee for that. The poor soul thinks they're now OK, so they go on to drive with their license still suspended, perhaps for years. Until they're caught and the hammer drops.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/loca...arios-roads-dont-even-know-it-ombudsman-finds

However, as jtk says, none of this has to do with the City of Toronto; they only issue Parking Tags (if you don't pay those your plates won't be renewed, nothing to do with your DL), not HTA tickets for moving violations that affect a Driver's License.
 

New World

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The Ombudsman has recently slammed the MoT for its inefficient and unfair administration of license suspensions. The standout failure is that they do not follow-up in any way when the notices they send out are returned as undeliverable. So when a driver pays and clears their unpaid fines, not realizing their license has already been suspended, no one tells them that it won't be re-instated until they pay a separate fee for that. The poor soul thinks they're now OK, so they go on to drive with their license still suspended, perhaps for years. Until they're caught and the hammer drops.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/loca...arios-roads-dont-even-know-it-ombudsman-finds

However, as jtk says, none of this has to do with the City of Toronto; they only issue Parking Tags (if you don't pay those your plates won't be renewed, nothing to do with your DL), not HTA tickets for moving violations that affect a Driver's License.
Updated.. Finally tracked down the issuer ( City of Toronto) of the suspension. In 2008 i received a speed ticket for doing 70 in a 60. Apparenly this ticket was sent to collections. I dont recall receiving a ticket nor any call from a collection agency. I have moved twice in the last 10 years. The person from the city of Toronto stated to me that since the fine of $ 40 was not paid we notified MTO to suspend your license 10 years later with no warning to me...
 

shack

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Updated.. Finally tracked down the issuer ( City of Toronto) of the suspension. In 2008 i received a speed ticket for doing 70 in a 60. Apparenly this ticket was sent to collections. I dont recall receiving a ticket nor any call from a collection agency. I have moved twice in the last 10 years. The person from the city of Toronto stated to me that since the fine of $ 40 was not paid we notified MTO to suspend your license 10 years later with no warning to me...
Probably looking at jail time for this.
 

corrie fan

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With regard to the Ombudsman's criticism of the MOT, governments expect all of us to follow all of the rules to the letter but they themselves can conduct their business in a sloppy way with no consequences. Another example is the Phoenix pay system. Would a private company be allowed to operate a faulty pay system for years without the govt. being on their case?
 

IRIS

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Updated.. Finally tracked down the issuer ( City of Toronto) of the suspension. In 2008 i received a speed ticket for doing 70 in a 60. Apparenly this ticket was sent to collections. I dont recall receiving a ticket nor any call from a collection agency. I have moved twice in the last 10 years. The person from the city of Toronto stated to me that since the fine of $ 40 was not paid we notified MTO to suspend your license 10 years later with no warning to me...
Fucking bureaucracy! Unbelievable! :(
 

oldjones

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Updated.. Finally tracked down the issuer ( City of Toronto) of the suspension. In 2008 i received a speed ticket for doing 70 in a 60. Apparenly this ticket was sent to collections. I dont recall receiving a ticket nor any call from a collection agency. I have moved twice in the last 10 years. The person from the city of Toronto stated to me that since the fine of $ 40 was not paid we notified MTO to suspend your license 10 years later with no warning to me...
Until very recently, we haven't had photo-radar in this province since the 90's, so I wonder how your speeding was detected, and the ticket not handed to you on the spot? Now that you've sorted out who's after you, don't get caught driving with that suspended license, because that's a big fine.

Just BTW the Post Office does quite a good job re-directing your mail when you move, even out of province or out of the country. It's a huge lot cheaper to drop by your local Canada Post outlet and fillout the form — betcha they're on-line too — than pay penalties for 'ignoring' your official mail.
 

corrie fan

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Fucking bureaucracy! Unbelievable! :(
I was at the local Service Ontario office to get my licence sticker. The clerk was telling another customer about the importance of keeping your address up to date with the government. She said that if OHIP has mail returned they assume that the person has moved out of the province, so they cancel their health card.
 
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