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Warren Releases DNA Results, Challenges Trump Over Native American Ancestry

October 15, 2018 11:44 AM ET
Heard on All Things Considered

ASMA KHALID

In a rather unusual campaign move, Sen. Elizabeth Warren has released the results of a DNA test that says there is "strong evidence" of Native American ancestry dating back six to 10 generations, addressing a controversy that has followed her for years.

The results were part of an elaborate strategy to end questions about her ancestry, possibly in anticipation of a 2020 presidential bid. In addition to the DNA analysis that fit with family stories, Warren also released a campaign-style video with clips of President Trump mocking her and vignettes from her family history.

https://youtu.be/RHzbdZuVyAM

At a rally in Montana this past July, Trump taunted Warren for her claims of Native American ancestry, calling her "Pocahontas." He suggested that if he were to debate her in 2020, he would give her one of those take-home DNA kits "they sell on television for $2."

https://youtu.be/iA9OAM9coS4

"I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity paid for by Trump if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian," Trump added, as the crowd cheered. But on Monday morning, the president was asked about the challenge and falsely told reporters, "I didn't say that."

Warren, who has had a long-standing feud with the president, challenged him on Twitter Monday morning, asking that the bet be paid up to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center.

After Trump denied making that $1 million pledge, Warren responded by tweeting, "Having some memory problems, @realDonaldTrump? Should we call for a doctor?"

Warren's DNA analysis, conducted by Stanford University researcher Carlos Bustamante, found that the "vast majority" of Warren's lineage is of European ancestry. But he also writes that the results "strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual's pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago."

The Republican National Committee mocked Warren's disclosure, saying the test revealed only a "minuscule percentage" of Native American ancestry that still leaves unanswered questions.

"Senator Warren's latest 'disclosure' is a glaring signal that she recognizes this issue is going to be a major problem for her all-but-announced presidential campaign," said RNC spokesman Michael Reed in a statement. "Having as little as 1/512th Native American ties does not give you the right to claim minority status. And today's disclosure still does nothing to answer the question as to why she started checking the box as a minority in the years before she made it to the Ivy League, and went back to being white after being hired by Harvard Law."

The RNC also jumped on a correction from The Boston Globe. The paper originally reported that the probability of Warren's Native American ancestry ranges from 1/32 to 1/512, but now reports the low end of that range is actually 1/1,024.

The White House also tried to quickly dismiss the results. "I know that everybody likes to pick their junk science or sound science depending on the conclusion," White House adviser Kellyanne Conway told reporters Monday morning. "But I haven't looked at the DNA test, and it really doesn't interest me."

Bustamante, who received his doctorate from Harvard University and was awarded a MacArthur Foundation "genius grant," is widely respected in the field of genetics.

By taking the DNA test, Warren is showing how seriously she is considering a run for president. She's expected to easily win her re-election to the Senate this November and has said she'll take a "hard look" at the presidency after the midterms.

In September, Warren released personnel files from her appointments at various law schools in hopes of answering questions about whether she benefited from her Native American ancestry in hiring.

Warren has long been dogged with questions about her family history. They date back to her 2012 Massachusetts Senate race against Republican Scott Brown, who accused her of being dishonest about her heritage to get a professional edge.

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"Professor Warren claimed that she was a Native American, a person of color," he said during a debate. "And as you can see, she's not.

Warren responded by saying that her ancestry was family lore among relatives.

"As a kid, I never asked my mom for documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage. What kid would? But I knew my father's family didn't like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware, so my parents had to elope," she said, reiterating that she hadn't gotten any benefits because of her heritage.

Warren has more specifically added in the past that her great-great-great grandmother was part Native-American.

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/15/657468655/warren-releases-dna-results-challenges-trump-over-native-american-ancestry
 

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Great.......this is the new low of identity politics.

Taking a DNA test so a person can claim vague ancestry for political points.

She just drop down the list for the nom.
 

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https://youtu.be/iA9OAM9coS4

"I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity paid for by Trump if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian," Trump added, as the crowd cheered. But on Monday morning, the president was asked about the challenge and falsely told reporters, "I didn't say that."
It's there in the clip, plain as can be.

Certainly every bit as low — and as cheap and sleazy as the rest of his reality-TV performance of the Presidency so far — is claiming "you didn't say" what was recorded, broadcast, and witnessed by thousands.
 

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As much as I'd love Warren to bitch-slap Trump ........ 6+ generations ago doesn't cut it in my books. It was very stupid of her to have made this claim.
 

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As much as I'd love Warren to bitch-slap Trump ........ 6+ generations ago doesn't cut it in my books. It was very stupid of her to have made this claim.
That's only from your grandson to your great-grandma. It's 'living memory', not ancient history. It was at the very least, equally stupid to make a show out of denying the claim, and betting a million bucks she couldn't and wouldn't back up what her folks had told her.

Now watch Donny do the Definition Dance on the pinhead of what the Politically Correct definition of an Indian is.
 

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That's only from your grandson to your great-grandma. It's 'living memory', not ancient history.
I don't follow. 6-10 generations is much more than her grandfather.

C'mon, there's really no-way to spin this. Her Native American ancestry mix puts her at or below the average American, according to what I'm reading online. I doubt any full-bloods will recognize her, nor can she claim any benefits. She bull-shitted and now she has to pay the price.
 

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It's there in the clip, plain as can be.

Certainly every bit as low — and as cheap and sleazy as the rest of his reality-TV performance of the Presidency so far — is claiming "you didn't say" what was recorded, broadcast, and witnessed by thousands.
Is it all that clear? What's the definition of "you're an Indian"? Based on this one opinion (and I'd have to call it an opinion, since the results are stated as a range) she is, at the highest, 3% Native American. Can you really define yourself based on 3% of your lineage? What about the other extreme of the estimate - that would make her 0.2% Indian? What if another opinion disagreed? I think that makes it far from clear whether Trump should be forking over a million dollars.

Even more to the point, it's simply ridiculous for someone to identify themselves in any meaningful way with such a small and distant part of their lineage.
 

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Elizabeth 'Pocahontas' Warren is a laughingstock and national embarrassment.
 

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Elizabeth 'Pocahontas' Warren is a laughingstock and national embarrassment.
And CNN today ranked her as the #1 contender for the Democratic Nomination.

Too funny.
 

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Warren is so white that the kkk is going to campaign for her.
 

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I think her name should be changed to.....

Fauxcahantes
 

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A minute % of native DNA several generations back doesn't make her a native American. But Trump still owes her $1 million, based on his promise.

The jokes on him.
:biggrin:
 

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I think her name should be changed to.....

Fauxcahantes

You know, for a "man of principle" you sure get worked up about trivialities, Butler. That's all I can say.

Fauxcahontas - I spelled it properly for you. Must have taken you a few minutes to come up with that gem.

I'm surprised you aren't posting rofl's with B4U and Zaibetter in the Stormy Daneils lawsuit thread....
 

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You know, for a "man of principle" you sure get worked up about trivialities, Butler. That's all I can say.

Fauxcahontas - I spelled it properly for you. Must have taken you a few minutes to come up with that gem.

I'm surprised you aren't posting rofl's with B4U and Zaibetter in the Stormy Daneils lawsuit thread....
I'm just enjoying the farce of it. Sometimes you have to acknowledge the absurd. It was CNN today saying they consider her the #1 Dem contender despite this made me laugh outloud.

As to the Stormy thread we are in agreement. It's a publicity stunt. I see no reason to comment.

Oh and the new nickname I stole it from someone, shamelessly in fact.
 

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There are a number of problems, among them:

Professor Bustamante relied on 'Native American reference' samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia because he could not use samples from the U.S.

The most lenient of U.S. Native American Tribes require at least 1/32 blood to be an enrolled member. Senator Warren is somewhere between 1/64 at the best, or more likely 1/1024.

This at the very best means that she is a typical European-American who generally are 0.18 percent Native American. So if she qualifies for minority status, so does the vast majority of the population.


Also the Secretary of State of the Cherokee Nation said today "using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong." Further, "DNA tests are useless to determine tribal citizenship and don't distinguish whether a person's ancestors were indigenous to North or South America."

Further Cherokee genealogists have said from the time this story first broke six years ago, that there there is no evidence that any of her ancestors were Cherokee, in fact the opposite.
 

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Great.......this is the new low of identity politics.

Taking a DNA test so a person can claim vague ancestry for political points.

She just drop down the list for the nom.
Yep, nothing to do with the Republican campaign demanding she do exactly that. Don't recall you complaining about identity politics when Trump offered her a million dollars for it.
 

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As much as I'd love Warren to bitch-slap Trump ........ 6+ generations ago doesn't cut it in my books. It was very stupid of her to have made this claim.
I believe she was pretty clear about her native ancestry being that distant.
 

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I believe she was pretty clear about her native ancestry being that distant.
She claimed that her grandmother was discriminated against for being part native.

She's 1/1024 native at most lmao

Somebody as stupid and as opportunistic as her shouldn't be anywhere near any type of political office.

White nationalist/supremacist Richard Spencer posted his own DNA results showing that Warren is whiter than him https://www.23andme.com/published-report/1ddd3453bc49401fb0c5144383300456/?share_id=78b5c01b4feb4c99

Pocahontas is an affirmative action cretin who has royally sabotaged her own chances at running LOL. She's an ignorant racist lowly crackpot.

A woman who is 1023/1024 white identifies as native. Only in America...
 

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Yep, nothing to do with the Republican campaign demanding she do exactly that. Don't recall you complaining about identity politics when Trump offered her a million dollars for it.
And she fell for it Hook line and sinker......you want someone that naive in charge?
 
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