Trump's ridiculous USA op-ed, complete with links that prove he's full of crap.

Frankfooter · Oct 11, 2018

You can't make this shit up.

Trump published an op-ed in USA Today.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-medicare-all-single-payer-column/1560533002/

In it he claims all sorts of lies as facts and distorts the dem position on health care.
So what did USA today do?

They included links that prove he's full of shit.
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018...akenly-admits-broken-health-care-promise.html

Now the question is whether they did it by 'accident' or whether they did it to show they don't believe Trump either and had to post it and prove it full of shit at the same time.

onthebottom · Oct 11, 2018

Solid OpEd by the POTUS - well timed.

toguy5252 · Oct 11, 2018

onthebottom said:
Solid OpEd by the POTUS - well timed.

LOL. Only if you completely disregard objective facts. And yes perfectly timed to appeal to the dumbest most gullible cohort in the world.

onthebottom · Oct 11, 2018

toguy5252 said:
LOL. Only if you completely disregard objective facts. And yes perfectly timed to appeal to the dumbest most gullible cohort in the world.

He’s arguing against the Canadian system that Bernie (and others) are running on. I think you’ll find he has a source for the $32+T number. In fact I think I started a thread on that months ago with the source.

toguy5252 · Oct 11, 2018

onthebottom said:
He’s arguing against the Canadian system that Bernie (and others) are running on. I think you’ll find he has a source for the $32+T number. In fact I think I started a thread on that months ago with the source.

"Arguing" with lies is not arguing it is decieving.

Trump's USA Today op-ed on Medicare is full of lies — and USA Today should not have published it

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-trump-medicare-20181010-story.html

bver_hunter · Oct 11, 2018

onthebottom said:
He’s arguing against the Canadian system that Bernie (and others) are running on. I think you’ll find he has a source for the $32+T number. In fact I think I started a thread on that months ago with the source.

The Canadian System is what Canadians treasure.

danmand · Oct 11, 2018

Of course, USA cannot afford to provide health care for all its citizens via taxation (as all other developed nations and quite a few developing nations do). $32B is HUUUUGE.

Egon von Greyerz:

US IS THE BIGGEST ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN
But the US is of course the biggest potential disaster with debts and deficits running out of control. The budget deficit for 11 months of 2018 is $900 billion. It will clearly break $1 trillion. The August deficit alone was $214 billion. In the last 12 months US debt is up by $1.6 trillion. As I forecast for the last couple of years, US debt will increase by at least $2 trillion per year in coming years. As rates rise, tax revenue won’t even cover the interest costs.

onthebottom · Oct 11, 2018

bver_hunter said:
The Canadian System is what Canadians treasure.

I don’t think he gives a shit about what Canadians treasure.

Charlemagne · Oct 11, 2018

To Trumptards up is down, black is white, and lies are facts.

bver_hunter · Oct 11, 2018

onthebottom said:
I don’t think he gives a shit about what Canadians treasure.

This is about Health Care for all Americans, and yes he gives a crap about it. That is why he does not give a damn if it is eliminated altogether.

danmand · Oct 12, 2018

bver_hunter said:
This is about Health Care for all Americans, and yes he gives a crap about it. That is why he does not give a damn if it is eliminated altogether.

The republican position is to eliminate government funded health care for Americans.

onthebottom · Oct 12, 2018

danmand said:
The republican position is to eliminate government funded health care for Americans.

That’s a lie

danmand · Oct 12, 2018

onthebottom said:
That’s a lie

OK, with the exception of members of Congress.

mandrill · Oct 12, 2018

danmand said:
OK, with the exception of members of Congress.

And their wives and children and those of their senior staffers.

danmand · Oct 12, 2018

oagre said:
And their wives and children and those of their senior staffers.

And don't forget abortions for their mistresses.

onthebottom · Oct 12, 2018

danmand said:
OK, with the exception of members of Congress.

Still a lie

onthebottom · Oct 12, 2018

danmand said:
And don't forget abortions for their mistresses.

That’s the one medical procedure they can’t spend government money on, so another lie, or simple ignorance.

guelph · Oct 12, 2018

onthebottom said:
He’s arguing against the Canadian system that Bernie (and others) are running on. I think you’ll find he has a source for the $32+T number. In fact I think I started a thread on that months ago with the source.

Don't forget the savings

A single-payer Medicare for All system would reduce the amount the U.S. spends on health care by more than $2 trillion, a Koch brothers-funded study released Monday found.

https://thinkprogress.org/mercatis-medicare-for-all-study-0a8681353316/

Frankfooter · Oct 12, 2018

onthebottom said:
Still a lie

Nah, its the Trump 'Repeal and ........'

Trump has tried to kill all medicare and has started precisely nothing to replace what he wants to kill.

oldjones · Oct 14, 2018

onthebottom said:
He’s arguing against the Canadian system that Bernie (and others) are running on. I think you’ll find he has a source for the $32+T number. In fact I think I started a thread on that months ago with the source.

Of course we all remember Trump's oft-stated admiration for Canadian Healthcare

Aaron Blake in the Washington Post said:
"We have a failing health care — I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend [PM Turnbull, visithing NYC] from Australia," Trump said, as The Post's Abby Phillip reports, "because you have better health care than we do."

Australia's health-care system is run by the government. It's essentially a single-payer, Medicare-for-all system that is available to everyone, with private insurance also available. (They even call it "Medicare.")

Consider this merely the latest evidence that Trump, in his heart of hearts, wants single-payer health care. Indeed, it seems to be his forbidden fruit.

Back in 2000, he advocated for it as both a potential Reform Party presidential candidate and in his book, "The America We Deserve."

"We must have universal health care. Just imagine the improved quality of life for our society as a whole," he wrote, adding: "The Canadian-style, single-payer system in which all payments for medical care are made to a single agency (as opposed to the large number of HMOs and insurance companies with their diverse rules, claim forms and deductibles) … helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans."

Just before the 2016 campaign, Trump appeared on David Letterman's show and held up Scotland's socialized system as the ideal.

"A friend of mine was in Scotland recently. He got very, very sick. They took him by ambulance and he was there for four days. He was really in trouble, and they released him and he said, ‘Where do I pay?’ And they said, ‘There’s no charge,’" Trump said. "Not only that, he said it was like great doctors, great care. I mean, we could have a great system in this country.”

Then, early in the 2016 campaign, he again praised the single-payer systems in Scotland and Canada — while also arguing that the United States needed to have a private system.

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