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Thread: Hot Take: Nylander Will No Longer Be A Leaf (next year)....and That's Okay

  1. #241
    Dubas said he can and he will with the core and referencing Nylander. Don't think he made any such reference with players like Gardner, Kapanen, and such. What makes you think it's Willy going rather than the likes of Gardner or Kapanen? Or both.

  2. #242
    Whatever the problems were with the defence last year, it's only fair to say that the forwards had to share some blame. Having played 28 games so far this season without Nylander, Bozak and JVR, 3 of the top 9 forwards, the Leafs' defence has improved to be one the top 3 teams in the entire league in goals against.

    Again there are other contributing factors but I'd say the replacements for these players have been doing a better job collectively. Both Matthews and Marner have made good improvements on their 2 way game and I'd only hope that Nylander will do the same.

  3. #243
    Tavaras Marner Hyman is the shut down line. Hyman has all those empty net goals for a reason. Tavaras matched up against Crosby. They play very similar games and styles. Matthews against Malkin also similar in size and style. That leaves Kadri to play more of an offensive game against a weaker 3rd line.

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by bmwquay View Post
    Dubas said he can and he will with the core and referencing Nylander. Don't think he made any such reference with players like Gardner, Kapanen, and such. What makes you think it's Willy going rather than the likes of Gardner or Kapanen? Or both.
    I wouldn’t say it is Willie, since Dubas half promised him.

    I am just saying a promise has to break somewhere and I think he may find himself in such a tough situation that let’s say, Gardiner signs for cheap and trying to sign AM and MM may put Dubas in a position where he’d have to hear offers and the best offers he is going to get is for Willie.

    Dubas does not want to get rid of Willie. He gave it for an additional half mil because he needs him to sign the other two. However, the tough times later may force his hand. I see Gardiner signing for a reasonable amount and next year or shortly after is when the pinch for Nylander occurs.

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    So much speculation about contracts and trades and who promised what and not trying hard after signing for big money, my focus is watching the games. That is more fun for me than playing analyst/GM. What can I say, I guess that I am just old school.

  6. #246
    Draft well and trade the already good young player who has yet to reach his full potential playing on the 1st line and makes matthews better with a contract that is very good is a very bad move and I cannot see it happening irrespective of any promises.

    Fix the other problems like Marleau and Hainsey. Willy is part of the solution not the problem

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    Shaq is right.

    Stop wanking off about the salary cap and enjoy the season. Nylander's passing skills will make AM even more dangerous. He's not as flashy as Kapanen but he doesn't need to be.

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    I think shaolinx wants willy off of Leafs so he could say he was right all along

  9. #249
    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious Von View Post
    He's not as flashy as Kapanen but he doesn't need to be.
    Being fast is not flashy. Comparing to Nylander, Kapanan hits more, plays better defence and kills penalties.

  10. #250
    Clearly Nylander is not in game shape.
    White dude fucks black babe.

  11. #251
    Quote Originally Posted by glamphotographer View Post
    Clearly Nylander is not in game shape.
    He should play with the Marlies for a couple of games to get into game shape.

    The Wings deserve the win as they were better in the first two periods and overtime. It didn't help when your goalie let in a couple of softies early.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by smuddan View Post
    He should play with the Marlies for a couple of games to get into game shape.

    The Wings deserve the win as they were better in the first two periods and overtime. It didn't help when your goalie let in a couple of softies early.
    Nylander cannot play in the Marlies. A team will claim him off waivers.
    White dude fucks black babe.

  13. #253
    Quote Originally Posted by glamphotographer View Post
    Nylander cannot play in the Marlies. A team will claim him off waivers.
    Isn't there such a thing as "conditioning assignment" ?

  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by smuddan View Post
    Isn't there such a thing as "conditioning assignment" ?
    Yes, there is. And yes, he could have.

  15. #255
    Bernier did it. Conditioning stint for 2 weeks. Huge letdown going from Andersen to Sparks. Most of those goals you can see Sparks head move with the puck as he watches it go into the net. First goal he is down low covering the wrap around when there's no wrap around then doesn't get up. A wrister from the blue line no screen no deflection he doesn't move. Baffling. Overtime winner his legs were moving a mile a minute he had no chance vs Larkin with his speed and smarts.

    Less than 10 seconds left in the 3rd period Det hit 2 posts with one shot. Leafs very fortunate to get a point.

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    Sparks will have to do better, Babs cannot allow another Andersen burn out before the playoffs.

    Eventually Dubas will have to deal with the defensive problem. Dubas figured he could put Pickard (who's been released by the Flyers) and McIllanhey (who playing well for the Canes) on waivers, he has another goaltending prospect in Kasimir Kaskisuo. He looked good in pre-season and was expected to be the No.1 for the Marlies. He got injured and is only just returning to action. If Sparks doesn't improve, he'll get more opportunities, the Finn will be called up.


  17. #257
    Quote Originally Posted by smuddan View Post
    Being fast is not flashy. Comparing to Nylander, Kapanan hits more, plays better defence and kills penalties.
    Advanced stats suggest Nylander is far superior. But that was using Nylander's stats from last year, we'll have to see how he does after sitting for 8 months

    Before you ask, the scene is called "Nicole Aniston - Night Time Romance".

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    Leafs groomed Kapanen to be a penalty killer and have a defensive mindset. Kapanen is is fast but Nylander is an extremely smooth skater. Apparently with very good vision and passer. Hence why he would be a good fit for Matthews who is an elite shooter. But he can also shoot himself.

    Willy deserves some slack. His first competitive game since last year's playoffs. That's almost 8 months.

  19. #259
    Quote Originally Posted by bmwquay View Post
    Kapanen is is fast but Nylander is an extremely smooth skater.
    Kapanen and Nylander should never be in the same car at the same time again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmwquay View Post
    Willy deserves some slack. His first competitive game since last year's playoffs. That's almost 8 months.
    Definitely. For two periods yesterday Detroit dominated the entire team - it wasn't one shift or one player.
    He hadn't even practised with them yet, so if anything blame a poor coaching decision.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darts View Post
    Kapanen and Nylander should never be in the same car at the same time again.
    Why? It's the first time in his entire career that Nylander has hit something...

  21. #261
    Quote Originally Posted by bmwquay View Post
    I think shaolinx wants willy off of Leafs so he could say he was right all along
    Actually, I just want the Leafs to do well. Fans can be critical of the team and enjoy talking sports.

    I will believe Dubas is a GM god if he can execute his plan and win with nearly half the cap to just forwards.

    Quote Originally Posted by chuckertmg View Post
    Definitely. For two periods yesterday Detroit dominated the entire team - it wasn't one shift or one player.
    He hadn't even practised with them yet, so if anything blame a poor coaching decision.



    Why? It's the first time in his entire career that Nylander has hit something...

    Haha...give Nylander a month I think.

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    Bottom line is you have to outscore your opponent whether it is 9-8 or 1-0. The key is Andersen anyway

    With infraction rules the advantage goes to the offense.

  23. #263
    Quote Originally Posted by gcostanza View Post
    Yes, there is. And yes, he could have.
    No Nylander will not want to go to the Marlies.

    The rules for conditioning.

    13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
    White dude fucks black babe.

  24. #264
    Quote Originally Posted by glamphotographer View Post
    No Nylander will not want to go to the Marlies.

    The rules for conditioning.

    13.8 Conditioning Loan. Unless a Player consents, he shall not be Loaned on a Conditioning Loan to a minor league club. Such Conditioning Loan shall not extend for more than fourteen (14) consecutive days. The Commissioner may take whatever steps he deems necessary to investigate the circumstances under which a Player is Loaned on a Conditioning Loan. If the Commissioner has reason to believe or determines that the Club has used the Conditioning Loan to evade the Re-Entry Waivers, or otherwise Circumvent any provision of this Agreement, he may take such disciplinary action against the Club, as he deems appropriate. The Player shall continue, during the period of such Conditioning Loan, to receive the same Paragraph 1 NHL Salary, and be entitled to the same benefits, that he would have received had he continued to play with the Club.
    So, he could have gone to the Marlies, had the parent club suggested it, and young William agreed to it.

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