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We Have A NAFTA Deal!

mandrill

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.....not sure if you missed this bit of print back in ‘08? Canada’s economy didn’t tank or go into a deep spiral as many other G7 countries did. Harper stick handled the crisis better than other leaders did. As for the surplus, when did it become a business plan for governments to be profitable? If the state is in surplus it means they are taking too much money out of your pockets.
Canada didn't have a bank failure crisis like the US because the banking industry in the US is almost unregulated - thanks to the GOP.....

Canadian banks have always been far more tightly reined in than the US.
 

mandrill

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Scheer played his cards correctly, he kept his mouth shut not to antagonize Trump the way Freeland did. Once the deal was done, we still had tariffs on steel & aluminum, gave the US a veto on trade talks with China. All that because Trudeau and Freeland thought they had “swagger” and had to settle for less because they couldn’t keep their mouths and egos in check during the negotiations. Who can forget Trudeau’s cowardly declaration at the G7 that Canada (Trudeau) won’t be pushed around by Trump, only he waited until Trump was on a plane before he opened his stupid mouth.

I keep seeing Stephen Harper on TV last few days and truly miss what was the best PM in recent memory. He spoke clearly, didn’t have to hem and ha every other word and didn’t sound like a flaky snowboard instructor who should cut his daily THC intake by about 25%.

You got any PROOF of the following....

1. That a mouthy idiot like Scheer could have gotten a better deal?
2. That ANYTHING Trudeau said messed up the deal?

You live in your own imaginary little world where a "real leader" can get anything he wants just by snapping his fingers. It's not like that in the real world.

And as far as your man-love for Harper is concerned, you must really love Bill C-36.

GO read all of Essguy's comments about how Harper screwed Canadians over in the softwood deal just to lube up for Bush. Or how he screwed up the Omar Khadr situation to the point the guy had a major million dollar lawsuit against Canada just to lube up for Bush. Yup. That's your hero. "The best PM in recent memory".......

Your idea of a "great Canadian PM" is one who screws over the guys on this board and grovels in front of the Americans.
 

Frankfooter

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Canada didn't have a bank failure crisis like the US because the banking industry in the US is almost unregulated - thanks to the GOP.....

Canadian banks have always been far more tightly reined in than the US.
Obama tightened some of those regulations but now Trump has loosened them even more then pre 2008.
 

nottyboi

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Scheer played his cards correctly, he kept his mouth shut not to antagonize Trump the way Freeland did. Once the deal was done, we still had tariffs on steel & aluminum, gave the US a veto on trade talks with China. All that because Trudeau and Freeland thought they had “swagger” and had to settle for less because they couldn’t keep their mouths and egos in check during the negotiations. Who can forget Trudeau’s cowardly declaration at the G7 that Canada (Trudeau) won’t be pushed around by Trump, only he waited until Trump was on a plane before he opened his stupid mouth.

I keep seeing Stephen Harper on TV last few days and truly miss what was the best PM in recent memory. He spoke clearly, didn’t have to hem and ha every other word and didn’t sound like a flaky snowboard instructor who should cut his daily THC intake by about 25%.
Rubbish, Freeland was right to antognize and not be intimidated by Trump. He needed a deal more then we did, prodding Trump was the right thing to do an added credibility to the assertion we would walk away from a bad deal. The Mexicans played it like Sheer, they got FUCKED UP THE ASS. The fact that Lighthizer went to Freelands house for dinner, showed she was able to maintain a relationship in the most difficult of situations and earn this guys respect. Sheer saying he would have got a better deal is just hot air, no basis in reality and impossible to prove. More nonsesense from the rightwing. BTW Harper was not able to close any major trade deals in 10 years. Trudeau has done 3 in 3 years.
 

Orion1027

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Rubbish, Freeland was right to antognize and not be intimidated by Trump. He needed a deal more then we did, prodding Trump was the right thing to do an added credibility to the assertion we would walk away from a bad deal. The Mexicans played it like Sheer, they got FUCKED UP THE ASS. The fact that Lighthizer went to Freelands house for dinner, showed she was able to maintain a relationship in the most difficult of situations and earn this guys respect. Sheer saying he would have got a better deal is just hot air, no basis in reality and impossible to prove. More nonsesense from the rightwing. BTW Harper was not able to close any major trade deals in 10 years. Trudeau has done 3 in 3 years.
Check your facts.....or would you like me to list the trade deals signed during Harper’s tenure. I can also include a list of the pipelines built during the same time that liberals claim don’t exist. Keep listening to little potato head
 

Orion1027

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Here’s a bit of reading for you;

Harper brought free trade agreements with the European Free Trade Association (i.e. Switzerland, Iceland, Norway and Liechtenstein) and Peru into force. Prior to Harper’s administration, there existed only four trade agreements with six member states. In other words, Harper nearly doubled the number of free trade partners that existed prior to his tenure as prime minister amidst global financial disorder.

As world financial centres nervously watched the Eurozone crisis begin to unfold in 2009, Harper responded by securing diverse economic linkages with developing states. To date, Harper has established three additional free trade agreements with Colombia in 2011, Jordan in 2012, as well as Honduras and Panama in 2013. More recently, a free trade agreement with South Korea was signed on March 11.

As for pipelines;

Trudeau 0 km
Northern Gateway- cancelled
Energy East - Cancelled
Trans mountain - Stalled

Harper - 8000km
Keystone built
Line 9 - built
Alberta Clipper Built
Enbridge Southern lights line
Anchor Loop Mt Robson

Stephen Harper was prime minister of Canada from February 2006 until November 2015.

Enbridge’s Alberta Clipper (Line 67) pipeline expansion from Hardisty, Alberta, to Wisconsin was approved in 2006 and construction was completed on April 1, 2010. That pipeline covers 1,081 km and exports an additional 800,000 barrels per day (bpd) of crude oil to Canada’s largest customer.

Also completed in 2010 is Enbridge’s Southern Lights Pipeline from Manhattan, Illinois, up to Edmonton. That pipeline — covering a length of 2,556 km — transports diluent to Edmonton to aid in shipping bitumen through pipelines.

Then there’s the Mount Robson & Jasper Park Expansion, also known as the Anchor Loop Project. Construction on that Kinder Morgan project began in August 2007, adding a 158-km section of pipeline to the existing Trans Mountain pipeline system between Hinton and Hargreaves, B.C., near Mount Robson Provincial Park.

Also, a portion of TransCanada’s Keystone pipeline was approved in 2006 and was completed in 2010 taking crude from Alberta to Nebraska spanning a whopping 4,324 km.
 
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