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Jesus, is there anywhere to get REAL unbiased news these days?!

rhuarc29

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It's ridiculous! You either have the emotional, ideological and logically unsound bias of the Left, or you have the religious, ignorant, nutjob bias of the Right. Are there any sane, centrist news outlets left?
I want to see facts, not opinions. And I want two centrists without skin in the game to debate the facts, not two extremists from each end of the spectrum sniping at each other.
 

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God came down to earth as his own son in the womb of a virgin to die on a cross so that he can get himself to forgive all of mankind's sins except for original sin.
 

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It's ridiculous! You either have the emotional, ideological and logically unsound bias of the Left, or you have the religious, ignorant, nutjob bias of the Right. Are there any sane, centrist news outlets left?
I want to see facts, not opinions. And I want two centrists without skin in the game to debate the facts, not two extremists from each end of the spectrum sniping at each other.
No such thing as unbiased news.
 

jcpro

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Form your own opinion based on the ticker from major outlets, compare it to the actual outcome. In time, you will get a feel for what is worthy and what is worthless. Avoid opinion journalism at all costs. Do the math(especially economic one- WSJ) and pay attention to what the primary and the secondary "movers and shakers" say and do. Pragmatism is the only way to go and a good knowledge of history as all has been said and done before- not exactly, but there are only so many ways you can skin a cat.
 

Butler1000

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I use the Reuters app and AP as well as a base. Also cbc, globe and mail.

Beyond that it's a matter of cutting through the rhetoric and looking for facts.

But no, there isn't any unbiased news anymore.
 

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Watch cnn, fox, bbc and infowars. Truth is somewhere in between. Good luck
 

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news from outside of north America like south china morning post, Japan times, etc
^ this, unfortunately these days you'll have to make a decision by reading Western-based and Eastern-based like RT and settle on something in between.

That said, not necessarily a bad thing, one should always form their own opinioms and not just take any single outlet as the only purveyor of truth. Of course, quality can also change with time so just sticking to a single good source now does not mean they will always retain objectiity and unbiased reporting. Al Jazeera is a great example of falling in line with the Western narrative of the Arab Spring but super critial of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan prior to 2011.
 

wilbur

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^ this, unfortunately these days you'll have to make a decision by reading Western-based and Eastern-based like RT and settle on something in between.

That said, not necessarily a bad thing, one should always form their own opinioms and not just take any single outlet as the only purveyor of truth. Of course, quality can also change with time so just sticking to a single good source now does not mean they will always retain objectiity and unbiased reporting. Al Jazeera is a great example of falling in line with the Western narrative of the Arab Spring but super critial of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan prior to 2011.
The best solution is to watch foreign media that doesn't have any skin in the other country's news.

Of course, I wouldn't take seriously China Central TV's news about China itself, but it becomes interesting watching their analysis into news of other countries. You get a better sense of US politics, for example, without them falling into the identity politics trap. They actually talk about policies, and not personalities, like most of the US media, and parroted by the Canadian media.

Al Jazeera is owned by and dictated to the Ruler of Qatar. Their news reflects to policies of the State of Qatar, and I stopped watching them over a decade ago.

AP is a CIA mouthpiece.

Reuters is the mouthpiece of the British establishment and their public school chums.

I watch a couple of RT shows like Crosstalk for a different point of view on international issues; you at least get the Russian perspective on things. 'Going Underground' will give you a non-comformist view of UK politics. It's not that the Western media lie.... it's what they often conveniently don't report if it upsets the narrative.
 

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Everything is biased.

They add fluorides in water. Google how fluorides affect your testosterone level (not in a good way).

If you want unbiased information. Stop listening and reading to what other people have to say. Think for yourself and arrive at your own conclusion.

A good starting point is to understand survival of the fittest. "Fitness" is money and power. Every individual, on the average, maximizes their chance to survive - maximizing their bank account.

Then you will understand how corporation operates, and how governments design policies. Then you start to see that the world isn't left wing or right wing, not liberal and conservatives. It's just the people fighting for survival against tyrants. It has been like this for a century.
 

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Big Sleazy

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Depends on the subject matter. But if you assume 99% of what you read and hear in the MSM and at Universities as being complete BS. You'll be right 99% of the time.
 

rhuarc29

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Form your own opinion based on the ticker from major outlets, compare it to the actual outcome. In time, you will get a feel for what is worthy and what is worthless.
I already do that. I'm not so much worried for myself (though it is a concern I may have biases I'm unaware of), but worried for people who have a hard time thinking for themselves.
It's a big problem. I largely believe that the reason we are so divided and so vicious with people of differing ideas these days is because of biased media.
 

oldjones

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I already do that. I'm not so much worried for myself (though it is a concern I may have biases I'm unaware of), but worried for people who have a hard time thinking for themselves.
It's a big problem. I largely believe that the reason we are so divided and so vicious with people of differing ideas these days is because of biased media.
I don't think it's the biases. We've usually coped with them better than we're doing currently. To me it's the way picture-heavy short attention-span sources have come to dominate where we get our information. Twitter — deliberately just a couple of sentences, but lotsa pix, FaceBook, InstaGram and all social media much the same. And those are our friends and respected role-models talking directly to us. TV news is not much better.

Essentially none of them have the capacity to do more than reinforce whatever 'thinking' we're already doing. None of them can communicate sufficient empirical information to fuel real consideration and thought.

Print can, even on screens. But long-form print was always a minority taste, and the internet has made it so easy to pick print sources that simply re-enforce our biases that even print is making bias problems rather than solving them.

That's always been up to us: we have always had to look past what we're being told —or sold — to find the truth and the lies behind it. It's just way harder today, because our chosen liars, the ones we like are, with us every second.
 

explorerzip

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As long as delivering information is tied to making money (also the case with non-profits), then there's no such thing as unbiased news. There's also no such thing as people that have "no skin in the game" unless you live on an island with no human contact and no access to information of any kind.
 
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