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JohnLarue said:
A child is dead at the hands of one of the refugees
That more than qualifies as a security & public safety risk.

How many dead children would be required for you to label it a security risk?
10? 20?........

You place your devotion to your ideology above the life of a child.
That is just plain scary
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The point is this. It's an ordinary crime which happened to be committed by a Syrian refugee - and the latter fact triggers anti Muslim zenophobia. Such as Butler's comment that ""it's in their culture" - which is probably the most appalling racist statement I have read on this board since.... well at least 3 or 4 days ago.

A sexually driven murder of a child or other vulnerable person is not connected with Islam. The cops already told you that; but you're having too much fun ranting about Islam to end the matter there.

A couple of weeks ago, a teenage girl was sexually harassed and murdered by an illegal immigrant into the US from Latin America. Cue the right wing triggers in a different venue. Again, there is nothing inherently Latin American about sexual harassment or murder. But the GOP and other Right Wing sources in the US sure said there was.

Who are the most notorious sex and violence criminals in Canadian history?.... Bernardo? Picton? The white private school guy who became an Air Force colonel? I'm not seeing religion or ethnicity being a component of violence or sexual psychosis here. I' m seeing that it cuts across ALL religious or ethnic boundaries.

If Butler had said something arguably sane and reasonable like.... "Recent immigrants from the Middle East or South Asia are more controlling of their families until they become fully Canadianized and alter their values and attitudes" , I would probably agree with that. It's a reasonable and arguable observation.

But Butler - and by implication the rest of you haters - don't say that. You imply that it's normal Islamic behaviour to kill children. It's not. There are a million Islamic Canadians, If they were killing children, we'd be hearing about it and the alt right would be whooping with joy.

Admit it. The reason you jump on this bandwagon is that you people have already DECIDED that Muslims are evil, simply because they're Muslims. And the fact that this guy has committed a murder is "proof" of something that you already believe.
 
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JohnLarue said:
I have no disdain for muslims. I know quite a few muslims,...... family orientated, hard working nice people.

That does not change the facts that the rush by Justin to set a political example resulted in in adequate vetting from a war zone and that a young Canadian child was murdered
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It's a moral obligation to accept refugees. This guy was vetted. He had no criminal record. He had no mental health record. The cops say that his religion played no part in the crime.

Did Bernardo need to get "vetted"? What would have turned up in a criminal record scan or a mental health check? Nothing. How about the air force colonel? Decorated respected senior officer? Didn't he fly the Queen around when she visited? Maybe Harper fucked up by not "screening" him before he was allowed near HM.
 
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JohnLarue said:
A child is dead at the hands of one of the refugees
That more than qualifies as a security & public safety risk.

How many dead children would be required for you to label it a security risk?
10? 20?........

You place your devotion to your ideology above the life of a child.
That is just plain scary
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Lets apply your same standard to right wing extremists.
Judging by Alexandre Bissonette, all right wingers are therefore mass murderers and should be expelled from the country.
How many mass murdering right wingers do you think are acceptable?

Same as your logic.
 
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Zaibetter said:
If I wanted to call him a Muslim terrorist, I would've called him so. Not afraid of doing so. So as usual you struck out. Looks like you have nothing else better to do than to look for grammar. You know what they say about about guys like you?

People Who Constantly Point Out Grammar Mistakes Are Pretty Much Jerks, Scientists Find

Scientists have found that people who constantly get bothered by grammatical errors online have "less agreeable" personalities than those who just let them slide.
And those friends who are super-sensitive to typos on your Facebook page? Psychological testing reveals they're generally less open, and are also more likely to be judging you for your mistakes than everyone else.

In other words, they're exactly who you thought they were.

That sounds pretty obvious, but this paper, which was published in PLOS One in 2016, was actually the first time researchers were able to show that a person's personality traits can actually determine how they respond to typos and grammatical errors, and it could teach us a lot about how people communicate (or miscommunicate) online.
"This is the first study to show that the personality traits of listeners/readers have an effect on the interpretation of language," said lead researcher Julie Boland from the University of Michigan back in 2016.

"In this experiment, we examined the social judgments that readers made about the writers."

The researchers took 83 participants and asked them all to read email responses to an ad for a housemate, which either contained no errors or had been altered to include typos (e.g. "teh" instead of "the") or grammatical mix-ups, such as too/to or it's/its.

Those 83 people then judged the person who'd written the email based on their perceived intelligence, friendliness, and other attributes, such as how good they'd be as housemates.

They were also asked at the end of the experiment whether or not they'd spotted any grammatical errors or typos in the emails, and, if so, how much it had bothered them.
The researchers then asked the participants to complete a Big Five personality assessment - which rates where they are on a scale of openness, agreeableness, ext**********sion/introversion, neuroticism, and conscientiousness - as well as answer questions about their age, background, and attitude towards language.

Overall, everybody rated the fictional housemate applicants with typos and grammatical errors in their emails as worse than those with perfect spelling and grammar. But there were definitely certain personality types that judged the typo-riddled applicants more harshly.

For example, extoverts were generally much more likely to overlook both grammar mix ups and typos, whereas introverts were more likely to judge the applicants negatively because of them.
And people who tested as being more conscientious but less open were more sensitive to typos, while those with less agreeable personalities got more upset by grammatical errors.

"Perhaps because less agreeable people are less tolerant of deviations from convention," the researchers wrote.

Interestingly, how neurotic someone was didn't affect how they interpreted mistakes.
The differences picked up in the research were pretty subtle - and it's a small sample size in general, so we need to take the results with a grain of salt. But the results couldn't be explained by people's age or education, which suggests that personality traits were playing a role.
More research is now needed to confirm these links, but for now, take comfort in the fact that typos can happen to everyone, but it takes a particular type of person to constantly point them out to you.

https://www.sciencealert.com/people-who-pick-up-grammar-mistakes-jerks-scientists-find
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But you DID call him an Islamic terrorist. You're in denial of something you did a couple of days ago. How sad is that, Zia?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Lets apply your same standard to right wing extremists.
Judging by Alexandre Bissonette, all right wingers are therefore mass murderers and should be expelled from the country.
How many mass murdering right wingers do you think are acceptable?

Same as your logic.
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Yeah. And the white creeps who drove into the crowd outside the mosque in the UK earlier today. Is that "cultural" as well. Are all white people potential killers?
 
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oagre said:
The point is this. It's an ordinary crime which happened to be committed by a Syrian refugee - and the latter fact triggers anti Muslim zenophobia. Such as Butler's comment that ""it's in their culture" - which is probably the most appalling racist statement I have read on this board since.... well at least 3 or 4 days ago.

A sexually driven murder of a child or other vulnerable person is not connected with Islam. The cops already told you that; but you're having too much fun ranting about Islam to end the matter there.

A couple of weeks ago, a teenage girl was sexually harassed and murdered by an illegal immigrant into the US from Latin America. Cue the right wing triggers in a different venue. Again, there is nothing inherently Latin American about sexual harassment or murder. But the GOP and other Right Wing sources in the US sure said there was.

Who are the most notorious sex and violence criminals in Canadian history?.... Bernardo? Picton? The white private school guy who became an Air Force colonel? I'm not seeing religion or ethnicity being a component of violence or sexual psychosis here. I' m seeing that it cuts across ALL religious or ethnic boundaries.

If Butler had said something arguably sane and reasonable like.... "Recent immigrants from the Middle East or South Asia are more controlling of their families until they become fully Canadianized and alter their values and attitudes" , I would probably agree with that. It's a reasonable and arguable observation.

But Butler - and by implication the rest of you haters - don't say that. You imply that it's normal Islamic behaviour to kill children. It's not. There are a million Islamic Canadians, If they were killing children, we'd be hearing about it and the alt right would be whooping with joy.

Admit it. The reason you jump on this bandwagon is that you people have already DECIDED that Muslims are evil, simply because they're Muslims. And the fact that this guy has committed a murder is "proof" of something that you already believe.
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It isn't the people. It's the belief system. I consider it to be a fascist political ideology hiding behind the trappings of religion. And what happens when a majority of Muslims occurs in a nation proves that.

It is misogynist, homophobic, rife with violent teachings. A belief system created by an ancient warlord no better than Charles Manson or Jim Jones.

Is it normal behavior? No. Is it more tolerated because they place collective religious belief above individual human rights. Yes. Yes it is.

They are not an oppressed minority.
 
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oagre said:

Yeah. And the white creeps who drove into the crowd outside the mosque in the UK earlier today. Is that "cultural" as well. Are all white people potential killers?
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Nope. But fascists are. And Islam is a fascist belief system.

Not every Nazi killed people. But alot sure tolerated it.
 
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JohnLarue said:
I have no disdain for muslims. I know quite a few muslims,...... family orientated, hard working nice people.

That does not change the facts that the rush by Justin to set a political example resulted in in adequate vetting from a war zone and that a young Canadian child was murdered
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Doesn't matter, for Libtards if you criticize Muslim terrorists means you hate Muslims :rofl:
 
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oagre said:

But you DID call him an Islamic terrorist. You're in denial of something you did a couple of days ago. How sad is that, Zia?
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I called him an idiot, I don't really care what you assumed. English must be your second language. Sad??? Sad is a little girl that had to die because Libtards didn't do their job. Sad?? Is that you don't give a shit about it and she's only a political point for you. That's sad.
 
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A quick look at stats for the fear mongers.

Murder rate in Canada is around 1.7 per 100,000 per year. With well over 50,000 Syrian refugees in 5 years, that is a murder rate of under 2/100,000 this year and 0.4/100,000 over that time.
Seems that happily, Syrian refugees are under-represented in the murder department.

p.s. Seems most Canadians don't hold the same view as Zaihater and darts.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ns-support-taking-in-refugees-poll-shows.html
 
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VIDEO: Woman In Hijab Throws Coffee On Canadians Protesting Murder Of Marrisa Shen

The media is doing everything to downplay it, while Justin Trudeau’s pathetic silence on Marissa Shen’s death – and the Syrian refugee accused of murdering her – continues.
Outside of a courthouse in British Columbia, a group of Canadians – including many people from the Canadian Chinese community – gathered to protest the murder of Marrisa Shen.

Shen was a 13-year-old Burnaby girl who was murdered, and a refugee from Syria named Ibrahim Ali has been charged with her killing.

Many of those protesting were demanding that the government be held accountable and give answers. People are also angry – and understandably so – about Justin Trudeau’s unwillingness to comment. Trudeau has been silent on Shen’s murder, a stark contrast from his willingness to comment on the Hijab Hoax.

Keep in mind, those protesting were surrounded by the media, meaning that the clip below is something that all the establishment media likely have on file. Yet they aren’t running it.
While people were standing outside the court, a woman in a Hijab walked by, threw coffee at them, and then walked away:

That is assault. Yet the media didn’t track the woman down, and they aren’t reporting on it.

The double standard by Trudeau and the establishment media in regards to Shen’s murder is appalling and it’s disgusting.
Not only is the government failing to keep Canadians safe, but they and their media allies are trying to deflect, distract, and really cover up what’s really going on.

This is why Canadians must put our trust in each other, get the truth out ourselves, and fight for the kind of country we want to live in, because those in power will never do that for us.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/201...-canadians-protesting-murder-of-marrisa-shen/
 
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Frankfooter said:
That's ignorant Islamophobia.
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If by that you mean criticism sure whatever.

Islamophobia doesn't exist. It's a made up word to place it in the same category as homophobia.

Religion is a choice. It isn't a human rights issue. It's comment on the choices a person makes in their life.

And that is fair game.
 
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oagre said:


Admit it. The reason you jump on this bandwagon is that you people have already DECIDED that Muslims are evil, simply because they're Muslims. And the fact that this guy has committed a murder is "proof" of something that you already believe.
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Don't be stupid
A refugee murdered a child
a refugee who was not vetted properly & should not have been granted entry
His religion is not relevant
 
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basketcase said:
A quick look at stats for the fear mongers.

Murder rate in Canada is around 1.7 per 100,000 per year. With well over 50,000 Syrian refugees in 5 years, that is a murder rate of under 2/100,000 this year and 0.4/100,000 over that time.
Seems that happily, Syrian refugees are under-represented in the murder department.

p.s. Seems most Canadians don't hold the same view as Zaihater and darts.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ns-support-taking-in-refugees-poll-shows.html
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Holy shit
Is it so important for you to defend those that screwed up that you are willing to trivialize and marginalize the death of this child?

I guess that you have not considered that since there was no real vetting process , there may be more than one evil sick murder in 50,000 ?
ISIS was sending sleepers into the masses of the exodus from a chaotic war zone
Lets hope none are here having a nap.... waiting
 
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JohnLarue said:
Don't be stupid
A refugee murdered a child
a refugee who was not vetted properly & should not have been granted entry
His religion is not relevant
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So similar to Tamir Rice, who was 12 when murdered by a police man who had no business being one, after being fired already by another department.
 
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