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Greenpeace suing Ontario government over cancellation of cap-and-trade program

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Greenpeace suing Ontario government over cancellation of cap-and-trade program

Lawyers for Ecojustice, in conjunction with uOttawa-Ecojustice Environmental Law Clinic, filed the suit

CBC News · Posted: Sep 11, 2018 3:33 PM ET |

Leading environmental groups have filed a lawsuit against the Ontario government over the cancellation of the province's cap-and-trade program.

Lawyers for Ecojustice, in conjunction with the uOttawa-Ecojustice Environmental Law Clinic, filed the suit on behalf of Greenpeace Canada, according to a news release issued Tuesday afternoon.

The suit aims to halt the legislation, introduced in July, which calls for the end of the province's cap-and-trade program, which was brought in by the previous Liberal government. The legislation has not yet been passed.

The lawsuit alleges that Doug Ford's Progressive Conservative government "unlawfully failed" to engage in public consultations over the cancelling of the program, as required by Ontario's Environmental Bill of Rights.

"The Ford government's first action when it stepped into office was to gut a program designed to reduce greenhouse gas pollution, without offering any immediate alternative," Charles Hatt, Ecojustice's lawyer, said in a statement.

"We're suing to remind the Premier that winning an election does not give his government carte blanche to ignore the statutory rights of Ontarians to be consulted on major changes to the laws and regulations that protect them from climate change."

The lawsuit, filed Tuesday in Ontario Superior Court, asks the court to quash the legislation.

The applicants have been granted an expedited hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for Sept. 21.

Spokespeople for Ontario's attorney general and environment minister did not immediately respond to CBC Toronto's requests for comment.

Province said move would save families money

Scrapping cap-and-trade was one of Ford's key promises during the spring election campaign.

In July, the newly elected PC government unveiled legislation to end cap-and-trade, claiming it would save the average Ontario family $260 per year in energy and fuel charges, as well as other "indirect costs."

In a news release at the time, Environment Minister Rod Phillips said the new proposed legislation, if passed, would compensate eligible companies that bought credits as part of the program, and would also include new measures to replace cap-and-trade with "a better plan for achieving real environmental goals."

"Ontario's carbon tax era is over," Phillips said in the news release.

The legislation also called for the province to set targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and to publish a plan to fight climate change.

Critics at the time suggested the government could be on the hook for billions of dollars to compensate companies that have already purchased credits. It was also unclear how the lost revenue would be replaced, if at all.

The government has already axed programs that are funded by proceeds of cap-and-trade, including GreenOn, which offered rebates to homeowners who made specific environmentally friendly choices during home renovations. The government also scrapped a program that offered incentives to drivers who bought electric vehicles.

When it cancelled that program, the province promised to honour the incentive for those who have their vehicle delivered, registered and plated if it was purchased from a dealer before Sept. 10.

Tesla owners were left out of that deal, because they purchase their vehicles directly from the manufacturer. However, they recently won a court decision allowing them to be part of the scaling down of the program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/greenpeace-suing-ontario-government-over-cancellation-of-cap-and-trade-program-1.4819250
 

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If you can’t beatem, sueem
 

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Maybe Dumb DOFO will try to invoke the Notwithstanding Clause yet again as that is all he knows!!
 

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Greenpeace suing Ontario government over cancellation of cap-and-trade program

Lawyers for Ecojustice, in conjunction with uOttawa-Ecojustice Environmental Law Clinic, filed the suit

CBC News · Posted: Sep 11, 2018 3:33 PM ET |

Leading environmental groups have filed a lawsuit against the Ontario government over the cancellation of the province's cap-and-trade program.

Lawyers for Ecojustice, in conjunction with the uOttawa-Ecojustice Environmental Law Clinic, filed the suit on behalf of Greenpeace Canada, according to a news release issued Tuesday afternoon.

The suit aims to halt the legislation, introduced in July, which calls for the end of the province's cap-and-trade program, which was brought in by the previous Liberal government. The legislation has not yet been passed.

The lawsuit alleges that Doug Ford's Progressive Conservative government "unlawfully failed" to engage in public consultations over the cancelling of the program, as required by Ontario's Environmental Bill of Rights.

"The Ford government's first action when it stepped into office was to gut a program designed to reduce greenhouse gas pollution, without offering any immediate alternative," Charles Hatt, Ecojustice's lawyer, said in a statement.

"We're suing to remind the Premier that winning an election does not give his government carte blanche to ignore the statutory rights of Ontarians to be consulted on major changes to the laws and regulations that protect them from climate change."

The lawsuit, filed Tuesday in Ontario Superior Court, asks the court to quash the legislation.

The applicants have been granted an expedited hearing, which is tentatively scheduled for Sept. 21.

Spokespeople for Ontario's attorney general and environment minister did not immediately respond to CBC Toronto's requests for comment.

Province said move would save families money

Scrapping cap-and-trade was one of Ford's key promises during the spring election campaign.

In July, the newly elected PC government unveiled legislation to end cap-and-trade, claiming it would save the average Ontario family $260 per year in energy and fuel charges, as well as other "indirect costs."

In a news release at the time, Environment Minister Rod Phillips said the new proposed legislation, if passed, would compensate eligible companies that bought credits as part of the program, and would also include new measures to replace cap-and-trade with "a better plan for achieving real environmental goals."

"Ontario's carbon tax era is over," Phillips said in the news release.

The legislation also called for the province to set targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and to publish a plan to fight climate change.

Critics at the time suggested the government could be on the hook for billions of dollars to compensate companies that have already purchased credits. It was also unclear how the lost revenue would be replaced, if at all.

The government has already axed programs that are funded by proceeds of cap-and-trade, including GreenOn, which offered rebates to homeowners who made specific environmentally friendly choices during home renovations. The government also scrapped a program that offered incentives to drivers who bought electric vehicles.

When it cancelled that program, the province promised to honour the incentive for those who have their vehicle delivered, registered and plated if it was purchased from a dealer before Sept. 10.

Tesla owners were left out of that deal, because they purchase their vehicles directly from the manufacturer. However, they recently won a court decision allowing them to be part of the scaling down of the program.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/greenpeace-suing-ontario-government-over-cancellation-of-cap-and-trade-program-1.4819250
They did consult with the public...it was called an election campaign promise.

Nice to see Greenpeace using donation money wisely.
 

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They did consult with the public...it was called an election campaign promise.

Nice to see Greenpeace using donation money wisely.
Did they campaign on a promise to end cap and trade in an idiotic manner which will result in multiple lawsuits and Trudeau implementing a carbon tax?
Is that really what you voted for?
 

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They did consult with the public...it was called an election campaign promise.

Nice to see Greenpeace using donation money wisely.
At least they are NOT using Taxpayers money like Dumb DOFO will be doing so in the various lawsuits in the offing!!
 

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Did they campaign on a promise to end cap and trade in an idiotic manner which will result in multiple lawsuits and Trudeau implementing a carbon tax?
Is that really what you voted for?
Two things:

- The launching of lawsuits doesn't constitute evidence that fulfilling the promise to scrap the environmentally useless cap-and-trade program was done in an "idiotic manner."

- Trudeau hasn't imposed anything yet. Nor is it clear that he will.

Actually, this lawsuit seems pretty dumb to me. Even if Greenpeace gets cap and trade temporarily reinstated, who in their right mind would participate in the auctions?
 

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Two things:

- The launching of lawsuits doesn't constitute evidence that fulfilling the promise to scrap the environmentally useless cap-and-trade program was done in an "idiotic manner."

- Trudeau hasn't imposed anything yet. Nor is it clear that he will.

Actually, this lawsuit seems pretty dumb to me. Even if Greenpeace gets cap and trade temporarily reinstated, who in their right mind would participate in the auctions?
I think this lawsuit will be thrown out as soon as possible. Where does Greenpeace think it even has any standing to sue.
 

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Maybe Dumb DOFO will try to invoke the Notwithstanding Clause yet again as that is all he knows!!
Now known as "That Jackass Doug Ford Clause"
 

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Did they campaign on a promise to end cap and trade in an idiotic manner which will result in multiple lawsuits and Trudeau implementing a carbon tax?
Is that really what you voted for?
Nice try...they campaigned on ending cap/trade and they kept their promise.
Did the Liberals campaign on bringing in cap/trade?
 

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Greenpeace suing Ontario government over cancellation of cap-and-trade program
They will lose & have to pay the governments court costs.
Special interest groups think they can make public policy and over rule the democratically elected government
Lets make it real expensive to go down this road & counter sue for 10X the amount they take in annual donations
 

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The problem with Canadian politics these days if any special interest group doesn’t like what the elected government is doing they file lawsuits. Unfortunately our courts feel the need to stick their nose into everything.
 

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Nice try...they campaigned on ending cap/trade and they kept their promise.
Did the Liberals campaign on bringing in cap/trade?
Trudeau campaigned on a carbon tax, so yes, he will be fulfilling his election promise.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ing-if-liberals-win-election/article22842010/

They will lose & have to pay the governments court costs.
Like Tesla lost?
Ford is a bull in a tea shop, the lawsuits for broken cups will keep coming.

- The launching of lawsuits doesn't constitute evidence that fulfilling the promise to scrap the environmentally useless cap-and-trade program was done in an "idiotic manner."
Sure it does, just as Ford's attack on Toronto city council in the middle of an election was done in an idiotic manner.
 

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Sure it does, just as Ford's attack on Toronto city council in the middle of an election was done in an idiotic manner.
I may have never seen a politician do a better thing in this province than what Doug Ford did to Toronto City Hall.

This guy is just awesome!

Imagine John Tory, Hudak, or that Elliot person. If they were premier, they would not have the balls to do the right thing.
 

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Trudeau campaigned on a carbon tax, so yes, he will be fulfilling his election promise.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...ing-if-liberals-win-election/article22842010/


Like Tesla lost?
Ford is a bull in a tea shop, the lawsuits for broken cups will keep coming.


Sure it does, just as Ford's attack on Toronto city council in the middle of an election was done in an idiotic manner.
Wynne gladly accepted it and didn't put up a fight like she should have done.
Tesla lawsuit? A whole $125k? Cancelling the rebate program has saved $millions. Well worth it. btw Tesla is fighting several lawsuits of their own for shady fiscal reporting.
WHy does it matter if it was in the middle of an election if the end goal was to reduce council anyway? It would just be delaying the inevitable.
 

Boober69

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It is taxpayers money that will be paid out. You just have nothing more to say about it. Period!!
Any payouts for any lawsuits pale in comparison to money saved. ie Tesla won $125k...the rebate program was costing $millions.
 

bver_hunter

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Any payouts for any lawsuits pale in comparison to money saved. ie Tesla won $125k...the rebate program was costing $millions.
First you right wingers complain that the rich are being taxed far too much. But suddenly when they get the rebates for environmentally friendly reasons, then it is "not their money" but "you the taxpayer's money" that is being handed out to them. Hilarious.
But again stop being hypocritical, as that is what the right wingers are all about. Dumb DOFO lost that case. Maybe he will invoke the "Notwithstanding" Clause here as well!!
 
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