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basketcase

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Its a MEMRI translation.
Do you really want to stick with that claim?
Oh look at your excuses. Hamas openly admitted that the vast majority of the dead were Hamas militants, not civilians. But as usual you are just looking for excuses not to criticize Hamas terrorists.


p.s. You do realize the report is from NBC reporters in Gaza right? Don't see anywhere in the article that the mention who translated it (but why would you ever rely on lies).
 

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Hamas is a movement, and is the govt of the west bank. The very same govt Israel played a key role in installing. Not all its members are armed or really want to be members. Just like people that collabroated with the Nazis in WWII (including Jewsis collaborators) , some were just doing their best to survive.
Funny that a guy who has said Assad and Putin are justified with flattening city after city and hospital after hospital because there may have been some rebel fighters or terrorists there is suddenly worried about the safety of Hamas members.
 

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Funny that a guy who has said Assad and Putin are justified with flattening city after city and hospital after hospital because there may have been some rebel fighters or terrorists there is suddenly worried about the safety of Hamas members.
They were not really trying to take or dislodge them, they just mowed them down when they were protesting. ...nor were these people shooting back. I have already said I support Israel conquering the west bank and annexing it.
 

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T.O.
Thanks for admitting that you also can't provide a map of where you think Israel and Palestine's borders are.

And again, a reminder.
Israel is occupying Palestine by military force.
The choice to end the occupation lies only with the occupier, its not about how far over those ruled by force bend.
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Nope, there was no nation/state called Palestine to begin with, and there were no fighter jets and tanks landing there and invading and occupying. There was a civil war where one side won and grew into a modern nation while the other side kept on living and believing in a fantasy called Arab unity while denying the other side exists and rejecting all opportunities to come to the table and settle.
 

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T.O.
p.s. Still wondering how long you can go in a thread about Syria without criticizing Assad's massive repeated bombing of cities and hospitals.
Zaifooter has no problem with Assad or other dictators for that matter. He only "cares" about Palestinians.
 

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Nope, there was no nation/state called Palestine to begin with, and there were no fighter jets and tanks landing there and invading and occupying. There was a civil war where one side won and grew into a modern nation while the other side kept on living and believing in a fantasy called Arab unity while denying the other side exists and rejecting all opportunities to come to the table and settle.
So you believe that there is only Israel?
Considering that half the population living there have no basic human rights, you've just declared Israel to be apartheid.
Nicely done.

Israel shot another teen in the head, protesting behind the Gaza prison walls.

Al Jazeera puts the Israeli slaughter of civilians this summer at 173 dead, 18,000 injured.
That's a brutal apartheid government you're supporting.
 

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Zaifooter has no problem with Assad or other dictators for that matter. He only "cares" about Palestinians.
And when Assad kills descendants of Palestinians by reckless bombing campaigns, he still tries to claim it's all Israel's fault.
 

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I ask again.
Do you still stand by your claim based on a MEMRI translation?
Where does it say anything about a MEMRI translation? Another made up 'fact' of yours just like when you claimed that Israel rejected Partition and the Arab states accepted it?


And even if it was a translation, I'm sure the Arabic audio is clearly audible. Face it. Hamas brags about their terrorism and war crimes and you refuse to criticize them for it just like you refuse to criticize Assad/Putin for their destruction of cities and thousands upon thousands of civilian deaths.
 

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They were not really trying to take or dislodge them,...
I see. Assad and Putin flatten cities full of civilians because and that's okay but how dare Israel try and stop violent Hamas members hiding behind protesters?
 

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So you believe that there is only Israel?....
There is Israel and there are the occupied Palestinian territories as described in Israel's peace treaty with Jordan. That occupied territory is earmarked as the basis of a Palestinioan state but that would require Palestinians agreeing to peace.

Why do you refuse to criticize Hamas for their outright refusal to engage in any peace process?
 

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I see. Assad and Putin flatten cities full of civilians because and that's okay but how dare Israel try and stop violent Hamas members hiding behind protesters?
Israel has been shooting and crippling protesters.
173 dead and 18,000 wounded.

Why are you justifying killing civilians?
 

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There is Israel and there are the occupied Palestinian territories as described in Israel's peace treaty with Jordan. That occupied territory is earmarked as the basis of a Palestinioan state but that would require Palestinians agreeing to peace.
And since you and Israel claim (incorrectly) that Palestinians don't want peace, then by your statement you are admitting there is only apartheid Israel and no Palestine.
 

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I see. Assad and Putin flatten cities full of civilians because and that's okay but how dare Israel try and stop violent Hamas members hiding behind protesters?
There was no significant risk, and they could have used non-lethal means. Yes if Israel decided to take over the west bank and make it part of a single state then I would be ok. This constant non-resolution and long term misery on millions of people is utterly appalling and spawning generations of hatred and terrorists. Its goal is genocide. The Russians and Syrians are removing terrorists and rebels while trying to decisively impose order on chaos. Places retaken by Syrians have started to return to normal with refugees returning. So much for this deep hatred of Assad. They may not like him, but I don't like DOFO and I'm not leaving.
 

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And since you and Israel claim (incorrectly) that Palestinians don't want peace, then by your statement you are admitting there is only apartheid Israel and no Palestine.
Wow. Are you claiming Hamas wants peace? Once again you are knowingly making shit up.

Most Palestinians want peace and I dont' see you criticizing Hamas who outright reject the idea despite the people's wishes. Instead you keep claiming they are the most rational party in the conflict.
 

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There was no significant risk,....
I see. You think Palestinian terrorism is okay because they don't kill too many Jews but it is okay for Putin/Assad to seal off entire cities and bomb the civilian population into submission.

Nice.
 

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Israel has been shooting and crippling protesters....
You think Israel is evil for shooting violent protesters yet you don't criticize the thousands of Syrian civilians killed by Syrian and Russian bombings this past month. No hypocrisy there.
 

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I see. You think Palestinian terrorism is okay because they don't kill too many Jews but it is okay for Putin/Assad to seal off entire cities and bomb the civilian population into submission.

Nice.
The terrorism tally right now is 173 dead and 18,000 injured, but none by Hamas, all by Israel.
So why do you think the presently non-existent Palestinian terrorism is the issue and not the massive slaughter and terrorist attacks on Palestinian civilians by Israel?
 

basketcase

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Yes, Israel....
And I see you still have no issue with either Assad bombing the shit out of cities killing thousands upon thousands of civilians simply because you can't find a way to blame it on Israel. Last I checked, well over 100,000 civilian deaths is more significant an issue that the deaths of a couple hundred violent protesters, many of whom Hamas has claimed as their fighters.

And similarly you have no issue with Hamas being fundamentalist, authoritarian, terrorists who reject even the concept of peace.
 
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