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  1. #337
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Why can't you answer the questions?
    Why would you rather attack the teacher's union then let kids be educated on sexual diseases?
    Do you realize that the lawsuits against Ford's policies are from parents, not teachers?
    The issue is not sex ed, the issue is an unelected self-serving union attempting to make public policy & that can not permitted.

  2. #338
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    That is all that really matters...
    And the people, including have the right to protest.

    Repeated elected governments (including numerous PC ones) have backed teachers having a union but that doesn't stop you from whining or pulling out your hair about. Seems you just get upset that people with facts (like the experts who developed the 2015 curriculum) don't accept your blow-hard opinions.

  3. #339
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    And the people, including have the right to protest.
    For the third of fourth time
    I have alway maintained teachers have every right to protest, just not while working and not on school property

    Repeated elected governments (including numerous PC ones) have backed teachers having a union but that doesn't stop you from whining or pulling out your hair about.
    No elected government has had a union attempt to overrule the government & make public policy before

    Seems you just get upset that people with facts (like the experts who developed the 2015 curriculum) don't accept your blow-hard opinions.
    The sex ed issue is a very divisive issue with lots of people on both sides with opinions.
    Labeling those opinions that differ from yous as "blow-hard" is simply not constructive, objective or accurate

    It also does not change the real issue at hand here. the government, not the union gets to make public policy

  4. #340
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    For the third of fourth time
    I have alway maintained teachers have every right to protest, just not while working and not on school property
    ...
    I haven't seen any news about protests on school property. All I've seen is news out of a union meeting protesting Ford's sucking up to the religious right.

    And no, the union is not trying to overrule anyone and the outdated curriculum doesn't in any way ban the topics they support teachers including. Fact is their employer (in Toronto at least) is supporting their view that all those topics that scare you are acceptable in the old curriculum.


    p.s I'm labelling you a blow-hard because that is what you are. You continually pretend you opinion is somehow more significant than facts.

  5. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    The issue is not sex ed, the issue is an unelected self-serving union attempting to make public policy & that can not permitted.
    The issue most definitely is about sex ed.

    Why the heck do you think teachers are protesting and parents are taking the province to court?
    This isn't a power trip by a union, its concerned teachers trying to teach our kids about safe sex.
    Why are you so against teaching kids about safe sex?

  6. #342
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    The issue most definitely is about sex ed.
    That issue has been decided by the elected government. They have the final authority as given to them by the electorate
    The issue is will the teachers defy the elected government

    Why the heck do you think teachers are protesting and parents are taking the province to court?
    probably because they did not like the election results

    This isn't a power trip by a union, its concerned teachers trying to teach our kids about safe sex.
    Anytime a union decides it can make public policy its power trip needs to be abruptly stopped
    That is an assault on democracy

    Why are you so against teaching kids about safe sex?
    Why are you so against governing by an elected government?

  7. #343
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    That issue has been decided by the elected government. They have the final authority as given to them by the electorate
    The issue is will the teachers defy the elected government
    Why are you so against teaching kids about safe sex?

    Just because Ford came to power despite the majority of Ontario voting against him, doesn't mean that Ontario agrees with him on every policy.
    Even on this policy, you are in the minority.

    When Ipsos asked the parents about provisions in the 2015 curriculum, support for different concepts being taught between Grades 1 and 8 was strong. For example, the highest level of support — 84 per cent — from parents surveyed dealt with the question of teaching Grade 7 students about sexually-transmitted diseases, oral and anal sex, and the risks of ‘sexting.’ The question which received the lowest level of support — 68 per cent — involved Grade 6 students being taught about masturbation, gender expression, and consent.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4424744/o...um-ipsos-poll/

    84% of Ontario supports teaching kids about safe sex, why are you so dead set against it?

  8. #344
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Why are you so against teaching kids about safe sex?

    Just because Ford came to power despite the majority of Ontario voting against him, doesn't mean that Ontario agrees with him on every policy.
    Even on this policy, you are in the minority.


    https://globalnews.ca/news/4424744/o...um-ipsos-poll/

    84% of Ontario supports teaching kids about safe sex, why are you so dead set against it?
    Why are you so against governing by an elected government?

  9. #345
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    Why are you so against governing by an elected government?
    Why are you so against the government respecting what the people want?
    Why are you so dead set against teaching kids about safe sex?

  10. #346
    Quote Originally Posted by Frankfooter View Post
    Why are you so against the government respecting what the people want?
    Why are you so dead set against teaching kids about safe sex?
    Why are you so against governing by an elected government?

  11. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    Why are you so against governing by an elected government?
    Why are you so against the rights of people to protest (who in this case are a hell of a lot more informed on the topic than Ford's cabal of Christian Conservatives)?

  12. #348
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    Why are you so against the rights of people to protest (who in this case are a hell of a lot more informed on the topic than Ford's cabal of Christian Conservatives)?
    How do you know they are all Christians? And what if they all were?

  13. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by basketcase View Post
    Why are you so against the rights of people to protest (who in this case are a hell of a lot more informed on the topic than Ford's cabal of Christian Conservatives)?
    Everyone has a right to protest, just not at work or on school property
    If the teachers want to stand all night on a sidewalk in the middle of february screaming union slogans, fine with me

    Now why are you so against governing by an elected government?

  14. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnLarue View Post
    Now why are you so against governing by an elected government?
    Ford's government is being sued.
    Not by activist teachers or even parents.
    By children.
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ment-1.4827023

    Why are you so partisan that you'd rather not teach kids about safe sex then let the appearance of teachers getting their way happen?

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