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Boober69

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Liminal

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Don't stray from the sex-ed curriculum...or else!

p.s. your union won't save you.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ontario-announces-broad-consultations-on-education-issues-including-sex-ed


...now go teach our kids how to do mathematics... since somewhere along the lines, the Liberals thought math wasn't important...perhaps because as kids grew older they couldn't add up the cost of all the Liberal boondoggles or understand how much $400 billion is.
You must not have any kids in school.
 

apoptygma

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Don't stray from the sex-ed curriculum...or else!

p.s. your union won't save you.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ontario-announces-broad-consultations-on-education-issues-including-sex-ed


...now go teach our kids how to do mathematics... since somewhere along the lines, the Liberals thought math wasn't important...perhaps because as kids grew older they couldn't add up the cost of all the Liberal boondoggles or understand how much $400 billion is.
Yep. Kids naturally LOVE to do math and HATE to browse the internet.
Let's pretend the internet doesn't exist in favour of 1+1=2.

You absolutely fit your alias, and then some.
 

Smallcock

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Yep. Kids naturally LOVE to do math and HATE to browse the internet.
Let's pretend the internet doesn't exist in favour of 1+1=2.

You absolutely fit your alias, and then some.
What is your point?
 

Liminal

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You assume too much.
Not an assumption but a logical deduction.

Anyone who has kids in school will be aware of the amount of math taught in public schools relative to sex education.

I do, so I know.

But, don't be coy, tell us.
 

oldjones

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Don't stray from the sex-ed curriculum...or else!

p.s. your union won't save you.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ontario-announces-broad-consultations-on-education-issues-including-sex-ed


...now go teach our kids how to do mathematics... since somewhere along the lines, the Liberals thought math wasn't important...perhaps because as kids grew older they couldn't add up the cost of all the Liberal boondoggles or understand how much $400 billion is.
Of course anyone who believes important and needed sex information is being 'censored' when it should be taught, now has an appropriate place to register their complaint.
 

Boober69

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Of course anyone who believes important and needed sex information is being 'censored' when it should be taught, now has an appropriate place to register their complaint.
Are you condoning teachers break the rules?
If yes, and this is a precedent being set, then where will you stop?
 

Boober69

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Not an assumption but a logical deduction.

Anyone who has kids in school will be aware of the amount of math taught in public schools relative to sex education.

I do, so I know.

But, don't be coy, tell us.

Had 3 kids go through the school system between the early 2000's and up to present through university.
I lost count of how many bad teachers there were especially for math. Thank god I could afford private tutors who were a huge help and grades shot up almost overnight.
Don't believe me about how bad the education system has fucked mathematics education in this province?...google it yourself...look at stats.
Liberals "new math" program was a disaster.
The new sex-ed curriculum only started in 2015. But headline readers assume this new curriculum started in 1999...because "1998" is thrown in every time this story comes up, ie going back to the 1998 curriculum.

So here's a question for you?
If you believe that it's ok for teachers to break the rules and go against the mandated sex-ed curriculum now...then why didn't they break the rules and do that before, especially if thy felt there were things in there that should be taught when it came to sex education?
 

apoptygma

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But headline readers assume this new curriculum started in 1999...because "1998" is thrown in every time this story comes up, ie going back to the 1998 curriculum.
It IS going back to 1998... because that is the last time the curriculum was revised.
Just because it kept on being taught doesn't mean it was current, OR relevant.
 
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Boober69

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It IS going back to 1998... because that is the last time the curriculum was revised.
Just because it kept on being taught doesn't mean it was current, OR relevant.
Grades 1-8 will be following the interim curriculum.

And regardless, you are straying off topic.

The thread is about teachers being called out if they stray from the mandated program. This is not a discussion about which you favour...it's about following the rules.
 
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JohnLarue

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It IS going back to 1998... because that is the last time the curriculum was revised.
Are you too stupid to understand that?
Just because it kept on being taught doesn't mean it was current, OR relevant.
The issue at hand is the public sector unions deciding that they will determine what is best, requarless of the instruction from their employer , the elected government.
That has to end and if need be it has to end bluntly.
If teachers want to determine policy let them run for public office
Until that happens, they MUST follow the directions of the elected govt.

Look at this
Sam Hammond, president of the Elementary Teachers’ Federation of Ontario, slammed the move as an attack on educators and accused the government of “manufacturing a crisis” instead of addressing issues like school underfunding.
Unbelievable!
They think they can disobey their employer and determine policy & in the same breath they whine about underfunding
The average teachers salary is $87 K for 9 1/2 months work (sort of), almost 100K in all-in-cost and they whine about school underfunding.
The average Family income in Ont is $75 K
Hello, guess where all the funds are going?
Unbelievable!
 

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oldjones

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Are you condoning teachers break the rules?
If yes, and this is a precedent being set, then where will you stop?
Don't be silly. What I said was that if a parent decided their child was being taught out-dated and obsolete material about sex and sexual relations the snitch-line would be a place to register their dissatisfaction with that incomplete 'education'. Isn't the line intended to help parents improve what and how their children learn?

Whatever mess — such as breaking rules — Dofo's stirred up with his hastily improvised curriculum, he has only himself to blame. Offering only this back of an envelope sketch, mostly a decade out of date, after wasting the years since the supposedly disastrous new curriculum was mandated with never a thought for a better one isn't what we expect from a party ready to govern. That incompetence is only rivalled by the stupidity of his wasted and useless notion of making Toronto Council functional.

The irony of a guy who clearly never does homework telling anyone how and what to teach is obvious. We do note the PC Party itself did way better, and approved the new curriculum — with tweaks to come — in its Official Platform. But DoFo fed that to the Dog.
 

JohnLarue

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It's The Conservative teachers you have to worry about from my experience. They tend to be the bigoted assholes that are in Catholic and Private schools for the most part.
You are too much
Bad teachers, just like good teachers are not defined by their political preferences, they are defined by their behaviour.

Just like your constant & never ending biased & inflammatory loonie left posts define you as someone who is incapable of having an objective view.
 

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This nonsense about the Elected Govt of the day being the “Employer” of Teacher’s is beyond silly. Ultimately, our Govt works for us. When a Politician makes a promise to a small segment of society in order to attain the leadership (which is what Ford did and what Patrick Brown did before him) it is actually very dangerous to govern according to that small segment. I despise Brown but have to admit, that at least he recognized that the loud noise against the sex education curriculum came from a loud, organized, but SMALL segment of the Ontario public. That’s why he stabbed them in the back (which oddly was one of the few things he did that showed potential to be a good leader).

Undoubtedly the sex education debate is polarized but to deny one side the ability to have access to or provide a different viewpoint makes me think of the Scopes Monkey trial.
 
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