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Sen. Wants To Make Calling the Police On Black Folks For Doing Nothing a Hate Crime

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Senator Wants To Make Calling the Police On Black Folks For Doing Nothing a Hate Crime

By Daryl Nelson - August 17, 2018

Calling the police on Black folks for doing absolutely nothing is a form of intimidation. Not only that, it should be considered a hate crime and put into law as such.

That’s what New York State Senator Jesse Hamilton said, after a Donald Trump supporter chastised one of his constituents for handing out campaign flyers that read “fight back [against] Trump.”

Hamilton was campaigning outside of a Brooklyn subway station when the woman said that he and the Democrats were dividing the country by attacking the president.

She also spoke with a thick European accent but ironically felt that Hamilton’s stance on the topic of immigration is much too lenient.

After the woman voiced her disapproval of the senator, she called 911 on him, and police from the 71st Precinct arrived. Afterward, they determined the call was unnecessary and no police action was needed.

“Waiting for your friends at a Starbucks is not a 911 call — it’s a call of intimidation,” said Hamilton, mentioning Donte Robinson and Rashon Nelson, the two men who were arrested for merely sitting inside the coffee chain. “That’s gonna be a hate crime. This pattern of calling the police on Black people going about their business and participating in the life of our country has to stop.”

Hamilton’s announcement comes after what seems like daily news stories about white folks calling police on Black people for living life and doing everyday things, as he stated.

For example, in the summer of 2018 alone, the cops were called on a 12-year-old Black kid for delivering newspapers on his paper route and a CVS manager in Chicago phoned police after a woman tried to use a coupon, which he thought was fraudulent.

Additionally, a woman called 911 on a Black Yale student for sleeping in a communal space, and a Black business owner was reported to police after he tried to open up his store first in the morning.

Similar to what Hamilton went through, someone called the police on Janelle Bynum, a Black state legislator in Oregon, for putting up campaign literature in her very own district.

“The pattern of targeting Black men and women for being Black and alive in the communities we all share has to stop,” said Hamilton.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/08/17/senator-wants-to-make-calling-the-police-on-black-folks-for-doing-nothing-a-hate-crime/
 

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So the posters are now going to be changed to "If You See Something, Don't you dare say something you racist"
 

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I think there should be some sort of legal penalty imposed on people who call the police on others for no reason other than to harass them...but I think that’s already illegal.

I dunno about escalating it to the level of a Hate Crime; maybe just look into enforcing the existing laws?
 

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^^There are already laws about the deliberate filing of false reports. ~~ On the other hand reporting someone you don't recognize seemingly attempting to break into a house on your street, or seemingly attempting to break into a car ~~What ever happened to see something say, say something?

If in areas which are pretty much racially homogeneous you are supposed to call police, what suddenly makes this wrong in racially heterogeneous areas?
 

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^^There are already laws about the deliberate filing of false reports. ~~ On the other hand reporting someone you don't recognize seemingly attempting to break into a house on your street, or seemingly attempting to break into a car ~~What ever happened to see something say, say something?

If in areas which are pretty much racially homogeneous you are supposed to call police, what suddenly makes this wrong in racially heterogeneous areas?
Did not see anywhere on this thread, that Hamilton was "seemingly attempting to break into a house or car". If so please point it out.
Guess, those two Black Guys at Starbucks were "attempting to break into a house or car" then, so that is why the cops were called!!
 

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^^There are already laws about the deliberate filing of false reports. ~~ On the other hand reporting someone you don't recognize seemingly attempting to break into a house on your street, or seemingly attempting to break into a car ~~What ever happened to see something say, say something?

If in areas which are pretty much racially homogeneous you are supposed to call police, what suddenly makes this wrong in racially heterogeneous areas?
Are those laws ever enacted?
http://www.wisn.com/article/woman-calls-police-on-man-trying-to-get-into-his-own-car/22750956
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-crosby-stealing-own-car-video-a7531721.html
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...on-racial-profiling-black-man-0704-story.html
 

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^^There are already laws about the deliberate filing of false reports. ~~ On the other hand reporting someone you don't recognize seemingly attempting to break into a house on your street, or seemingly attempting to break into a car ~~What ever happened to see something say, say something?

If in areas which are pretty much racially homogeneous you are supposed to call police, what suddenly makes this wrong in racially heterogeneous areas?
I think the concern is more about calling the police on a black woman who is “seemingly” sleeping in her university dorm’s lounge or a 9-year-old black girl who is “seemingly” selling bottled water on the sidewalk without a permit or a couple of black guys who are “seemingly” sitting in Starbucks or a black woman who is “seemingly” standing on the front stoop of an apartment building to stay out of the rain while waiting for an Uber.

See something say something?????
 

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I think there should be some sort of legal penalty imposed on people who call the police on others for no reason other than to harass them...but I think that’s already illegal.

I dunno about escalating it to the level of a Hate Crime; maybe just look into enforcing the existing laws?
First sensible thing you've posted since Feb 2013.
 

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I think there should be some sort of legal penalty imposed on people who call the police on others for no reason other than to harass them...but I think that’s already illegal.

I dunno about escalating it to the level of a Hate Crime; maybe just look into enforcing the existing laws?
I think so too. That it is already illegal, so why not start enforcing that, would be my question.

If the law is about intent, however, or needs to prove some sort of intent on the person making the report, then a change to the law is needed to reflect stupidity, not just harmful intent.

Ignorance should never be an excuse to harass someone, nor should it be an excuse for not being able to be arrested.

Negligent false report, False reporting with intent to, false-reporting for the purpose of hate, false reporting of a sexual crime. We already have laws that are divided up for things like sexual assault and Murder, why not false reporting as well.
 

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I'm wondering where the problem is here. Ordinary citizens who don't know what the law is concerning political activism in public spaces, or police who would actually respond to such a call?

I'm thinking this is a non-problem, unless the police enjoy wasting their time on calls that couldn't possibly lead to arrests. Is there any evidence that police switchboards are being overwhelmed with such stupid calls, such that calls on real crime are not getting through?
 

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Filing a false police report (which involves deliberate action not mistake as to what is going on) is already a criminal act (in Canada included in Public Mischief) http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-140.html

Part of the problem in the original post is that it is hard to legislate against stupidity -- if you don't understand political free speech are you being malicious or ignorant? Enact a law which penalizes honest ignorance and watch what happens to you at the next election after a few sympathetic people have been convicted.* Then we have the tone deaf but in fact legally valid complaints -- a child selling lemonade without a license, this happens all sorts of places to children of all races. In fact it is illegal, but penalties are almost never imposed upon the children.


* Assuming such a law would even make it that far.
 

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Thought you were capable of doing your own research. Did I expect too much? There are plenty of other such articles, but you can look them up for yourself.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-...ment-someone-reported-burglary-called-police/


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-black-corrections-officer-breaking-car.html
So the posters are now going to be changed to "If You See Something, Don't you dare say something you racist"
This was in context to your sarcastic quote above!! Again that was his own house and car. Was it right for them to call the cops in these instances??

Well read what the thread was all about thanks to the number of blacks that are being targeted for even living by the law, thanks to them just being "Black". Is it right to do so, and hence your sarcasm??
 

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This was in context to your sarcastic quote above!! Again that was his own house and car. Was it right for them to call the cops in these instances??
Would that everyone knows their neighbors, but should it be illegal to call police when the caller saw what they thought was a crime in progress, of course not!
 
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