For sure Shanahan is not Mr. Invisible but on a day to day basis, dealing with the media is more under Dubas' job description. In most sports organizations, the GM talks to the media more than the prez.
Maple Leafs 2018 - 19
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Certainly 7 goals allowed on 16 Boston PP is a recipe for disaster. Combination of personnel and strategy. By game 7 they were finally willing to use Tavares for PK faceoff.In the series the Leafs had 3 power play goals while the Bruins had 7 and that's the stat that impacted the final outcome the most. Was it because of individual player performance (goaltending) or coaching strategies or both ?
I'm also wondering why Shanahan still hasn't addressed the media. Could it be that he's weighing on some serious decisions on top management personnel (Babcock and Dubas). What if there's a serious rift between the two ? While he has full autonomy, he has to answer to the Board and I would not be surprised if questions have been or will be raised by board members.
His goal was from a beautiful pass from Sandin. This guy has poise and a great understanding of the game and body positioning. Makes smart plays.I like what I saw in Egor Korshkov. Scored a goal and had a few big hits in his first Marlies playoff game. He's 6'4 and may challenge for a spot on the Leafs next season.
hahahaha!!!So they basically played Boston without Kadri, Dermott, Hyman, and Gardner
I have always been a fan of Shanahan, both as a player and the chief executive of the Leafs hockey operation, however, imo he's made two major decisions that I think will go down as big mistakes when we look back a few years from now :The Toronto Maple Leafs extend team President/Alternate Governor Brendan Shanahan's contract for 6 more years.
1) drafting Nylander (8th) when he was acting as gm in June 2014 when he could have drafted David Pastrnak who went to the Bruins at the 26th spot;
2) choosing Dubas over Lamoriello and Hunter.
Dubas was hired in July 2014 as an assistant gm before Hunter and Lamoriello came on board, I would venture to guess that he had given his input to Shanahan in the drafting of Nylander in June. No wonder he would bend backwards to resign Nylander.
I believe Dubas was the correct choice.I have always been a fan of Shanahan, both as a player and the chief executive of the Leafs hockey operation, however, imo he's made two major decisions that I think will go down as big mistakes when we look back a few years from now :
1) drafting Nylander (8th) when he was acting as gm in June 2014 when he could have drafted David Pastrnak who went to the Bruins at the 26th spot;
2) choosing Dubas over Lamoriello and Hunter.
Dubas was hired in July 2014 as an assistant gm before Hunter and Lamoriello came on board, I would venture to guess that he had given his input to Shanahan in the drafting of Nylander in June. No wonder he would bend backwards to resign Nylander.
The Nylander contractl, it's a 6 year deal, a bit of a rush to judgment, calling it a mistake after 1 abbreviated season.
The Maple Leafs braintrust weren't the only ones who missed out on Pastrnak.
Florida, Buffalo, Edmonton, Calgary, NYI, Carolina, Winnipeg, Anaheim, Nashville, Arizona, Washington, Dallas, Detroit, Columbus, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Tampa, Chicago, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Colorado, and Vancouver all selected before Boston took Pastrnak with the 25th (not 26th) pick.
With the possible exceptions of Florida, Edmonton and Detroit, you could point a finger at any of those teams and say they "blew it" by not selecting Pastrnak.
William Nylander is a fine NHL player, who has performed well for the Maple Leafs over his 1st 4 seasons.
Would he like another swing at the 2018-19 season? Sure, and so would Evgeni Malkin.
Players have up and down years.
A better question could be how all those idiots missed Brayden Point, not selected until the 79th pick of the same draft as Pastrnak and Nylander?
Small comfort.Florida, Buffalo, Edmonton, Calgary, NYI, Carolina, Winnipeg, Anaheim, Nashville, Arizona, Washington, Dallas, Detroit, Columbus, Philadelphia, Minnesota, Tampa, Chicago, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Colorado, and Vancouver all selected before Boston took Pastrnak with the 25th (not 26th) pick.
Anyway, Pastrnak plays on a line with Bergeron and Marchard so that must help his productivity.
Calling not drafting Pasternak a huge mistake that will live in infamy is a big stretch. Hindsight is always 20/20. 24 other teams past up on him. Pasternak might get a career ending injury. Are you going to now say Boston shouldn't have drafted him? How many teams passed up on Datzyuk? Martin St Louis? Are they all idiots?
Hunter is unproven. How do you know he's a better NHL GM? No other NHL team is taking him. Are they all idiots? Shanahan got him for what was at the time his supreme scouting skills of junior players. I'd say that was a brilliant move. Since part of the plan was to fill the cupboards through drafting. Not to be the future GM.
You do know how old Lamo is right? He could croak any day now banging a hooker in the backseat of his Corvette.
I would say his Shanaplan is a good one. Sold the board on a tank job. No other was able to do that. He got Babs. Sure you can complain now but at the time it was a tremendous move. Got Lamo to mentor Dubas. That was the purpose. Not for Lamo to be GM forever. You can always find things to nitpick about anyone. But your nitpicks are a huge stretch. It probably reflects more on a good job he's done. Think about where the Leafs are now. Could they have done it without a tank job? No!
What I would complain about is how they are managing the cap. After Marleau is gone see what they can do. Marleau is on Lamo is it not? If you think getting Komarov and Martin are good moves then good for you.
Hunter is unproven. How do you know he's a better NHL GM? No other NHL team is taking him. Are they all idiots? Shanahan got him for what was at the time his supreme scouting skills of junior players. I'd say that was a brilliant move. Since part of the plan was to fill the cupboards through drafting. Not to be the future GM.
You do know how old Lamo is right? He could croak any day now banging a hooker in the backseat of his Corvette.
I would say his Shanaplan is a good one. Sold the board on a tank job. No other was able to do that. He got Babs. Sure you can complain now but at the time it was a tremendous move. Got Lamo to mentor Dubas. That was the purpose. Not for Lamo to be GM forever. You can always find things to nitpick about anyone. But your nitpicks are a huge stretch. It probably reflects more on a good job he's done. Think about where the Leafs are now. Could they have done it without a tank job? No!
What I would complain about is how they are managing the cap. After Marleau is gone see what they can do. Marleau is on Lamo is it not? If you think getting Komarov and Martin are good moves then good for you.
The best case scenario would have Lamoriello stay on for a couple more years with the team entering into the most critical stage where the most important contract extensions were coming up. It was also the first and only year in which the team was in the window to seriously compete with Matthews and Marner still on ELC.
I understand the timing might have forced Shanahan to make the decision or risk losing Dubas to another team, but it was just too much gamble to hand the most critical tasks to a rookie.
Dubas had no experience in handling NHL contract negotiations on his own and imo he failed in handling both the Nylander and Matthews negotiations. By overpaying Nylander and promising no trade, he set himself up for much tougher negotiations for Matthews, Marner, Kapanan and Johansson. Instead of using comparable players on other teams,
agents for the Leafs ufas are now using Nylander to stick it to Dubas.
Nylander has skills, the kind of skills that will likely net him 60 points if he ever gets back to the form he was two seasons ago, especially playing with Matthews in the regular season, but not the kind of skills that would help the team to win playoff games. IMO Kapanan and Johnsson are better team players that will develop to be more effective in the playoffs
than Nylander ever will be.
I understand the timing might have forced Shanahan to make the decision or risk losing Dubas to another team, but it was just too much gamble to hand the most critical tasks to a rookie.
Dubas had no experience in handling NHL contract negotiations on his own and imo he failed in handling both the Nylander and Matthews negotiations. By overpaying Nylander and promising no trade, he set himself up for much tougher negotiations for Matthews, Marner, Kapanan and Johansson. Instead of using comparable players on other teams,
agents for the Leafs ufas are now using Nylander to stick it to Dubas.
Nylander has skills, the kind of skills that will likely net him 60 points if he ever gets back to the form he was two seasons ago, especially playing with Matthews in the regular season, but not the kind of skills that would help the team to win playoff games. IMO Kapanan and Johnsson are better team players that will develop to be more effective in the playoffs
than Nylander ever will be.
You got it right. Teams were looking to poach Dubas. Tells you how much in demand he was. The plan wasn't to let Lamo leave. Offer was for him to stay and consult. Be like a Cliff Fletcher or Scotty Bowman. He didn't want it. No one was looking to poach Hunter.
Sure, Dubas is young and inexperienced. Hence why Lamo was brought in to mentor. Lamo said it himself in his first press conference. This was the plan.
Competing while Matthews and Marner are on ELC is overblown. Teams like Pitts and Wash won when their stars were mature and seasoned. The team is still a work in progress. Have you seen their defense? Their 3rd and 4th lines? Perhaps even throw in the goalie who can win the big games.
Sure, Dubas is young and inexperienced. Hence why Lamo was brought in to mentor. Lamo said it himself in his first press conference. This was the plan.
Competing while Matthews and Marner are on ELC is overblown. Teams like Pitts and Wash won when their stars were mature and seasoned. The team is still a work in progress. Have you seen their defense? Their 3rd and 4th lines? Perhaps even throw in the goalie who can win the big games.
Also, it's not as if they didn't go for it on Matthews and Marner ELC. They signed Tavaras free agent. They traded 1st round draft pick and young players for Muzzin. They kept Gardiner as own rental. What is it you wanted them to do? Trade away more 1st rounders for a 1 year shot and sacrifice the future? The Shanaplan is to be a top tier team year after year.
They took Boston to 7 games. Who is now in the finals. Could very well be the Cup Champs again. It was them, Pitt, Chicago, LA as a 4 team dynasty for the longest time.
They took Boston to 7 games. Who is now in the finals. Could very well be the Cup Champs again. It was them, Pitt, Chicago, LA as a 4 team dynasty for the longest time.
I couldn't agree more for the game 6 vs Boston Bruins at home.The Leafs exited not because they were out played, but because they were out coached.
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and just because they lost in 7 games doesn't mean they didn't go for it. If the definition of going for it means you must be champs then 30 teams didn't go for it.
