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Have to say JVR was doing a lot on the PP that Tavaras isn't doing. JVR was a master of intight who could flip the puck up top
 
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The special teams are not doing good now. To be successful in major sports you have to make adjustments. No matter how talented you are, other teams' coaches and scouts will find ways to counter and expose your weaknesses. It's up to the GM to put together the right personnel and the coaching staff to make the necessary adjustments. Over the long haul of a season though, the best teams and best players will have ups and down. The Leafs pk has to rely a lot on Andersen who's their best penalty killer, and he seems to be "just ok" the past few games.
 
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No one on the team has a good one timer like Ovie, Stamkos, or Laine. Matthews catch pivot and shoot is quick but not as quick as a one timer and there's 2 guys right on top of him now and he can't get his shot off.
 
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bmwquay said:
The last 5 games. Sparks came in out of rotation and Andersen hasn't been dominant. Just one bad game vs Boston and the rest average. Power play 1 for like 18. PK not good. So special teams and goal tending. Willy comes back and the slide starts. Coincidence? Matthews definitely looks tentative. He pulls up. Doesn't want to get hit. Not good for a big man. Hockey is a physical game.

Gotta be able to take a hit to make a play. I remember the hit he took from Doughty. Prepared himself. Doughty bounced off and he made a play. That's how he's gotta play. Not pull up.

Barkov drew something like 23 penalties and took none. That is amazing. He buried all 3 chances he had for the hat trick. Plays smart defensively.
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Matthews
In the 5 games after the hit he had 4 points in 5 games (2 garbage points in the Boston game as they came after the score went 6-1) and the team only won 1 of the 5. He hasn't been dominant and seems to be playing tentatively.
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glamphotographer said:
I'm thinking a deal involving Marleau, Zeitsev and a few picks to the Blues for one of their top D men may be possible.
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smuddan said:
I think it'll take a lot more. It'll probably take Kapanan +a 1st round pick, or Nylander (and Dubas's reputation). However neither Parayko or Pietrangelo would fit the Leafs' cap structure on a long term basis, so it'll be a very expensive rental for 2 years. It may be too big a gamble for Dubas to take at this stage of the Shanaplan.

Wayne Simmonds would probably cost less because he'll be unrestricted after this season assuming the Flyers don't resign him first. He'd fit perfectly on Matthews' line with either Nylander or Kapanan. In addition to scoring, he'll add the toughness that the Leafs desperately need for the playoffs.
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glamphotographer said:
And the Leafs could not convert of 6 PP.
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smuddan said:
Dubas basically tied his own hands and limited his options when he made that "promise" of not trading Nylander as long as he's the GM. He tried to do some damage control by saying it was only an intention, but it would look really bad on him if he does trade him. I think it's a rookie mistake on his part and Nylander outsmarted him by making that promise known.
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bmwquay said:
A study by Cole Anderson of the Star shows Leafs would fall from 2nd to 14 with average goaltending
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bmwquay said:
Goaltending was the difference. Leafs 4th line gets exposed. Andersen needed to be brilliant in this game and he wasn't. 2 goals last minute of 2nd in a 1 goal game and it was over right there. Leafs powerplay is too predictable now. Same setup all the time.
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bmwquay said:
The last 5 games. Sparks came in out of rotation and Andersen hasn't been dominant. Just one bad game vs Boston and the rest average. Power play 1 for like 18. PK not good. So special teams and goal tending. Willy comes back and the slide starts. Coincidence? Matthews definitely looks tentative. He pulls up. Doesn't want to get hit. Not good for a big man. Hockey is a physical game.

Gotta be able to take a hit to make a play. I remember the hit he took from Doughty. Prepared himself. Doughty bounced off and he made a play. That's how he's gotta play. Not pull up.
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Shaolinx said:
Nylander still not in form and made a bad giveaway.
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bmwquay said:
No one on the team has a good one timer like Ovie, Stamkos, or Laine. Matthews catch pivot and shoot is quick but not as quick as a one timer and there's 2 guys right on top of him now and he can't get his shot off.
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smuddan said:
The special teams are not doing good now. To be successful in major sports you have to make adjustments. No matter how talented you are, other teams' coaches and scouts will find ways to counter and expose your weaknesses. It's up to the GM to put together the right personnel and the coaching staff to make the necessary adjustments. Over the long haul of a season though, the best teams and best players will have ups and down. The Leafs pk has to rely a lot on Andersen who's their best penalty killer, and he seems to be "just ok" the past few games.
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bmwquay said:
Have to say JVR was doing a lot on the PP that Tavaras isn't doing. JVR was a master of intight who could flip the puck up top
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chuckertmg said:
Power play is 1 for 22 after last night, actually.
When the Panthers took that double minor and the Leafs had a four minute power play, they were outshot by Florida 3 to 2.
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bmwquay said:
No one on the team has a good one timer like Ovie, Stamkos, or Laine. Matthews catch pivot and shoot is quick but not as quick as a one timer and there's 2 guys right on top of him now and he can't get his shot off.
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Seriously, you guys are all correct (especially Beemer guy) and it is literally amazing that the Leafs are not in last place.

Matthews, PK, power play, Dubas, defense, lacking toughness, Tavares vs. JVR etc. etc. all are fucking up and we need to make trades to correct them. It seems that the only person not deficient is the guy who operates the graphics that work the scoreboard and all the signage in the arena. (Actually, he's a buddy of mine. LOL)

Hey guys, why don't you just sit back and enjoy watching hockey. Every team in the history of the NHL (not counting the 7 or 8 loss team of the Habs around '78 or'79) goes through ebbs and flows. No team is perfect and right now 28 or 29 teams are less perfect than the Leafs.
 
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bmwquay said:
Barkov drew something like 23 penalties and took none. That is amazing. He buried all 3 chances he had for the hat trick. Plays smart defensively.
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Guaranteed that if he played in Toronto, we could write a book about all his deficiencies, according to the "experts", of course.
 
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shack said:
I don't know if he is tentative but during the game I was thinking that he's been almost invisible the last few games.
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Seriously, you guys are all correct (especially Beemer guy) and it is literally amazing that the Leafs are not in last place.

Matthews, PK, power play, Dubas, defense, lacking toughness, Tavares vs. JVR etc. etc. all are fucking up and we need to make trades to correct them. It seems that the only person not deficient is the guy who operates the graphics that work the scoreboard and all the signage in the arena. (Actually, he's a buddy of mine. LOL)

Hey guys, why don't you just sit back and enjoy watching hockey. Every team in the history of the NHL (not counting the 7 or 8 loss team of the Habs around '78 or'79) goes through ebbs and flows. No team is perfect and right now 28 or 29 teams are less perfect than the Leafs.
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Don't forget to quote your own post !
 
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smuddan said:
Don't forget to quote your own post !
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It's not like I pointed it out as an inherent weakness in the team that needs to be addressed, as most of the others seemed to be.

But rest assure that it crossed my mind as I was posting it.
 
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bmwquay said:
No one on the team has a good one timer like Ovie, Stamkos, or Laine. Matthews catch pivot and shoot is quick but not as quick as a one timer and there's 2 guys right on top of him now and he can't get his shot off.
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Wrong
 
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Matthews and Marner went Stan and Ollie with the National Ballet...they probably got some phone numbers as well.

 
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Oh man.

Nylander cant get a break. They swarmed for what felt like a minute in the Panthers zone, change, and Nylander hops on, dangles a bit and shoots from the blue line and gets blocked and momentum gone.

I’m still going to give him two more weeks to bust out.
 
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Who said Auston Mathews doesn't have a one timer? Both his goals to-night are one timers. No need to catch and release. He shot straight off the pass.
 
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Technically everyone has a one timer like everyone has a slap shot or a wrist shot or any shot. It's the quality. Matthews one timer was a catch and shoot in one motion without having to pivot. It wasn't a slap shot. Not to say that's a bad thing cause his catch and shoot is lethal. How often do you see Matthews take a slap shot? Probably because it's no where as good as his catch and shoot.

You could also say that Tavaras goal from pass from Marner behind the net was a one timer.
 
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