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Very sad! I think it's time to change the rules in the catholic world, and let those horny priests to be married and fuck their wife every night if they want..
We could start by killing the catholic school board.
 

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May have to consider a RICO investigation of the Catholic Church, it’s italian so we shouldn’t be surprised it’s an organized crime entity.
 

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And my post amuse you Beavis? :) :)
Do you really believe those men become priests, because they want to hide their aberration??? ...lol.
Becoming a Catholic priest is a serious decision and they want to serve the Lord first. Some of them can't keep their celibacy, and BECOME a pedophile , but they didn't want to be a priest , just because they want fuck young boys in the future. Where are you come from? From the Mars?
Do you really think , pedophiles are not attracted to other adults? Big parts of the pedophiles are married men, and they have own family.
They are not BORN as a pedophile. They become pedophiles in their adult life. There is a big difference.
Yeah keep posting! You have really good fantasy and you are funny! Hollywood is waiting for you.:)
You're a fool! Nobody becomes a pedo, no amount of isolation would ever give me attraction to a child. They have access to women, the church is full of vulnerable single moms. Fortunately for you you have the white knights on your side.

It's well documented that priests become priests to hide or try to suppress their sexual orientation, maybe read in swedish if you can't understand English.
 

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churches like the JWs have pedophile problems JWs are allowed to marry

Hamilton woman hopes to draw attention to Jehovah's Witness child sex abuse allegations

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/jehovahs-witness-sexual-abuse-1.4532041

other protestant child abuse cases

Jersey City pastor charged with molesting 10-year-old girl and relative

https://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2018/08/jersey_city_pastor_charged_with_molesting_10-year-.html

A former youth pastor in Robertson County has been indicted on a charge of having sexual contact with a juvenile.

According to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation, James Clinton Jones, 38, was indicted last week on a charge of sexual contact with a minor/sexual contact by an authority figure.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...h-pastor-charged-sexual-misconduct/853745002/

Kevin Berry — a Sedgwick pastor charged with a child sex crime — has resigned from his position at First Christian Church of Sedgwick, a church official said.

https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article216313670.html
 

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You're a fool! Nobody becomes a pedo, no amount of isolation would ever give me attraction to a child.
Your argument is a classic "psychologist's fallacy".

You presuppose the objectivity of your own perspective when analyzing the behaviour of another.

By your own argument, no one would ever become, say, a Priest or garbage man because you wouldn't become either of them.



They have access to women, the church is full of vulnerable single moms. Fortunately for you you have the white knights on your side.

It's well documented that priests become priests to hide or try to suppress their sexual orientation, maybe read in swedish if you can't understand English.
Not that I am calling you out on bullshit, but where are such "well documented" claims that you are referring to, published? Even in swedish. I can use google translate.


Not sure what the purpose of your argument is. Or why you are being so hostile. Are you just picking on Iris because she has touched a nerve in you or what?
 

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Here are my two cents.

The Catholic Church is especially evil because their primary premise is that everyone is a piece of shit sinner, and they should be scared of some Invisible Man in the Sky. That the ONLY way to maybe make it to the Invisible Place in the Sky, instead of the molten lava core of earth is to suck up and beg forgiveness ...but ONLY through an authourized representative of said Invisible Man in the Sky.

That and the man-made construct of celibacy as a demonstration of sacrifice etc is just more proof of what a load of toxic bullshit they continue to try to peddle.

Having said that, it is ultimately a personal decision to abuse anyone, especially a little kid. As Dennis Miller once ranted..."If you ever experience the slightest thought of diddling a little kid, just take one for the team and put a bullet in your head before it ever has a chance to become more. than a thought."
 

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. . . .Having said that, it is ultimately a personal decision to abuse anyone, especially a little kid. As Dennis Miller once ranted..."If you ever experience the slightest thought of diddling a little kid, just take one for the team and put a bullet in your head before it ever has a chance to become more. than a thought."
So after the rant we get to this.

Isn't it acting out rather than feeling or passing thought? So you are telling us that if you ever lost your temper and wished someone were dead, or had dark sexual desires you should be taken out and executed even though you never acted out on those thoughts?

Further that it is utterly impossible for anyone to resist temptation.

Those who sexual abuse children should be prosecuted! Those who resisted temptation should be allowed to go on their way.
 

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So after the rant we get to this.

Isn't it acting out rather than feeling or passing thought? So you are telling us that if you ever lost your temper and wished someone were dead, or had dark sexual desires you should be taken out and executed even though you never acted out on those thoughts?

Further that it is utterly impossible for anyone to resist temptation.

Those who sexual abuse children should be prosecuted! Those who resisted temptation should be allowed to go on their way.

You'll have to speak to Dennis Miller. They were his words, not mine. And neither of us said anything about being taken out and executed. For a lawyer, and someone with such knowledge of history etc,, you make pretty bad arguments that have multiple logical fallacies when you get emotional.

But I'm glad -ahem- whomever you might be referring to has resisted the temptation to act out their feelings of wanting to engage in sex with children, has resisted. Your sympathy is noted.

My sympathy lies with the children who have been the victims of those who couldn't resist, and didn't "take one for the team" before they lost that control.
 

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You'll have to speak to Dennis Miller. They were his words, not mine. And neither of us said anything about being taken out and executed. For a lawyer, and someone with such knowledge of history etc,, you make pretty bad arguments that have multiple logical fallacies when you get emotional.

But I'm glad -ahem- whomever you might be referring to has resisted the temptation to act out their feelings of wanting to engage in sex with children, has resisted. Your sympathy is noted.

My sympathy lies with the children who have been the victims of those who couldn't resist, and didn't "take one for the team" before they lost that control.
^ Really you have never known anyone in your life who has resisted temptation? ~~~ Honestly no one at all that when a woman said no, backed off -- every single guy you know who was in that situation raped.
 

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^^^ Really Charlemagne, you don't believe that there are a huge number of very upset Roman Catholics over this issue and that other denominations are not also deeply hurt by sexual exploitation.

Perhaps you know of a Religion or denomination in the West which doesn't have significant sexual abuse prevention programs, however, I don't.
 

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^ Really you have never known anyone in your life who has resisted temptation? ~~~ Honestly no one at all that when a woman said no, backed off -- every single guy you know who was in that situation raped.
Two logical fallacies in your already weak argument.

False equivalence and straw man.

Since you like to argue so much, you might want to learn to avoid logical fallacies.
 

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^^^ Really Charlemagne, you don't believe that there are a huge number of very upset Roman Catholics over this issue and that other denominations are not also deeply hurt by sexual exploitation.

Perhaps you know of a Religion or denomination in the West which doesn't have significant sexual abuse prevention programs, however, I don't.
Anyone want to point out which logical fallacy Aardie is using here?
 

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Your argument is a classic "psychologist's fallacy".

You presuppose the objectivity of your own perspective when analyzing the behaviour of another.

By your own argument, no one would ever become, say, a Priest or garbage man because you wouldn't become either of them.





Not that I am calling you out on bullshit, but where are such "well documented" claims that you are referring to, published? Even in swedish. I can use google translate.


Not sure what the purpose of your argument is. Or why you are being so hostile. Are you just picking on Iris because she has touched a nerve in you or what?
You're a known white knight so paying any attention to you is a waste of time. Everybody knows the priesthood is a haven for gay men and pedos, except you apparently and Iris, but she is very stupid so I will excuse her.

You should read her post on transgenders in Cuba laying ashphalt, just outright stupidity.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/...iesthood_became_a_haven_for_many_gay_men.html
 

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At least 7 Pennsylvania priests accused of sex abuse were sent to Toronto-area clergy rehab

In 1984, shortly after admitting to sexually molesting a 14-year-old child, Rev. John Connor of Pennsylvania was sent to a Toronto-area facility that helps clergy deal with addictions, mental-health issues and sexual disorders.

After eight months of treatment at the Southdown Institute, officials there warned the church that Connor should not be put in a position where he would have responsibility for adolescents. Yet the church seemed to ignore the institute's advice, and would later assign Connor to a parish in Conshohocken, Pa., with a grade school and encourage him to "educate youth."

These allegations are found in the more than 1,300 pages of an explosive grand jury report released Tuesday that claims hundreds of Roman Catholic priests in Pennsylvania engaged in sexual abuse since the 1940s.

Of the victims, more than 1,000 were children, but that total could be thousands more, the grand jury concluded.

Within the report are several Canadian connections, including a few cases where abuse is said to have occurred on Canadian soil.

The report says at least seven Pennsylvania priests were sent to Southdown for treatment. But the institute's assessment of some of those priests — that they should never be near children — didn't seem to deter the church from allowing them to continue to play a role in church activities.

Southdown is a rehab centre for priests located about 65 kilometres north of Toronto in Holland Landing. It moved from its old location in nearby Aurora in 2013.

It has a team of psychologists and psychiatrists who mostly deal with clergy suffering from issues such as alcoholism and depression. But some priests have also been treated there for molesting children.

The grand jury report says in Connor's case, he never went to trial because church lawyers negotiated an agreement to have his record of arrest erased if he admitted to the molestation allegation and avoided being arrested again for a year.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pennsylvania-priests-sex-abuse-children-southdown-1.4788215
 

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You just don't get it do you, one hour face palm. Do you think peodaphiles are attracted to women? Why do you think these guys become priests, to pray on children and hide their homosexuality, that part I don't care about, priests can have sex with one another all they want.
Iris never gets it. The idea that giving these men the opportunity to marry women in order to access their love boxes will somehow quench their thirst for young boy fun is laughable.

There are countless men on the down low. I.e. married to a woman and having sex with other men and also boys.
 

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http://www.christiantrumpetsounding.com/reformation_views.htm

As early as the 12th century, the Waldensian dissentients outside the church identified the "little horn" and "Man of Sin" as the Roman Papacy. But even within the church, among the most learned godly men, Papacy also became increasingly identified as "Anti-Christ" and the "Man of Sin."
 

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Seriously, it’s a criminal conspiracy. The US should seize all the churches assets and issue a warrant for the Popes arrest.
 

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Priest-abuse victims come forward in DC area, call for cardinal’s resignation

WASHINGTON — Survivor hotlines in the D.C. area are being inundated with calls from new victims of priest sexual abuse. And now thousands are calling for the archbishop of Washington’s resignation.

This follows a grand jury report out of Pennsylvania last week that named more than 300 so-called “predator priests” and criticized the archbishop of Washington, Cardinal Donald Wuerl, for allegedly covering up their offenses during his service in Pittsburgh.

Now, thousands are calling for his resignation online.

“We’ve been getting calls from new survivors who saw their perpetrators name in the report as well as just survivors who are reading the report and feeling sad and feeling like they need to talk with someone,” said Becky Ianni who leads the local chapter of Survivors Network for those Abused by Priests.

A survivor of clergy abuse herself, Ianni said the Pennsylvania grand jury’s report shows the church cannot be trusted to protect children. She cited specific cases where Wuerl is named in the report that alleges he covered up known offenders.

https://wtop.com/dc/2018/08/priest-...rd-in-dc-area-call-for-cardinals-resignation/
 

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"I say it without the least hesitation, whoever calls himself the universal Priest, or desires this title, is by his pride, the precursor of anti-Christ, because he thus attempts to raise himself above the others. The error into which he falls springs from pride equal to that of anti-Christ; for as that wicked one wished to be regarded as exalted above other men, like a God, so likewise whoever would call himself sole bishop exalteth himself above others" -Pope St. Gregory
 
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