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Insidious Von

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And it runs way deeper than what is being presented, the systematic sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests. Perhaps this only covers 1/10 of the shameful activities of priests. Like his predecessor, Pope Francis is becoming overwhelmed by the allegations of sexual abuse. He didn't do himself any favours by defending a Chilean bishop accused of pedophilia. It's time for the farce of chaste priests to come to an end. And women should be made priests.

Thank the Lord my parents never had time for priest, they were never invited to a family dinner. I got a communion but my parents left it up to me if I wanted confirmation. I considered it a complete waste of time.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html
 

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Very sad! I think it's time to change the rules in the catholic world, and let those horny priests to be married and fuck their wife every night if they want. They could still choose the celibate voluntarily, but don't force them. Hard to serve the Lord, when their balls look like two-thirds of the Blue Men Group.
 

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Very sad! I think it's time to change the rules in the catholic world, and let those horny priests to be married and fuck their wife every night if they want. They could still choose the celibate voluntarily, but don't force them. Hard to serve the Lord, when their balls look like two-thirds of the Blue Men Group.



thanks Iris...just spit my coffee on my keyboard reading that last part
 

mandrill

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WTF!

And it runs way deeper than what is being presented, the systematic sexual abuse of children by Catholic priests. Perhaps this only covers 1/10 of the shameful activities of priests. Like his predecessor, Pope Francis is becoming overwhelmed by the allegations of sexual abuse. He didn't do himself any favours by defending a Chilean bishop accused of pedophilia. It's time for the farce of chaste priests to come to an end. And women should be made priests.

Thank the Lord my parents never had time for priest, they were never invited to a family dinner. I got a communion but my parents left it up to me if I wanted confirmation. I considered it a complete waste of time.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/us/pennsylvania-catholic-church-grand-jury/index.html
IV, it must have been the unwritten rule that the Catholic church was an in group of gay paedophiles and hetero guys need not apply. 300 pedo priests in PA must cover a significant % of the priesthood there. The entire church must have been participating or complicit.
 

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Very sad! I think it's time to change the rules in the catholic world, and let those horny priests to be married and fuck their wife every night if they want. They could still choose the celibate voluntarily, but don't force them. Hard to serve the Lord, when their balls look like two-thirds of the Blue Men Group.

I think the so called celibrate priests are abusing abusing boys not girls. So wife fucking is not in the cards unless she is going to bend over and spread her ass cheeks.
 

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It certainly doesn't explain abuse in the 1950's, and I don't know about Chile, but more recently it has been said that the shortage of men wishing to be ordained into the Roman Catholic Priesthood (in significant measure due to the mandatory celibacy requirement) in North America and the rest of the West has lead to a less selective discernment process. Hence to some of the points above.

In answer to Oagres' question above: the Pennsylvania (Roman) Catholic Conference states that there are currently 2,509 Roman Catholic Priests in Pennsylvania.
Also the current report does not include incidences of abuse in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Philadelphia and in the Diocese of Alltoona-Johnstown which were covered by other Grand Juries.
 

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Very sad! I think it's time to change the rules in the catholic world, and let those horny priests to be married and fuck their wife every night if they want. They could still choose the celibate voluntarily, but don't force them. Hard to serve the Lord, when their balls look like two-thirds of the Blue Men Group.
You just don't get it do you, one hour face palm. Do you think peodaphiles are attracted to women? Why do you think these guys become priests, to pray on children and hide their homosexuality, that part I don't care about, priests can have sex with one another all they want.
 

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Forbidding to marry is a doctrine of devils!!

All over the United States, Roman clergymen are being accused of child abuse. The reason for this is the damnable Roman doctrine of forbidding the clergy to marry. St. Paul says that one of the main signs of the GREAT APOSTASY would be the prohibition of marriage:

"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and DOCTRINES OF DEVILS; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a red hot iron; Forbidding to marry ...."
(I Timothy 4:1-2).

"This is a TRUE saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife . . . one that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection"
(I Timothy 3:1-4).

http://www.reformation.org/forbidding_to_marry.html

Adam was in a perfect paradise . . . and it was not good for him to be without a wife!!

If it was NOT GOOD for man to be alone and without a wife in a perfect world how can it be good for a man to be alone in a fallen corrupt world? Of course Satan heard everything God said in the garden and decided to fight God's plan of marriage from the very beginning.

The corrupt pagan priests of the heathen religions were unmarried. The priests of Isis in Egypt were not allowed to marry. The vestal virgins of Rome were kept in a state of perpetual virginity.

All of the disciples of Jesus were married men. St. Peter was a married man. We are pretty sure that St. Patrick married the beautiful Scottish princess that he baptized. She might have been the celebrated St. Brigid. The bishop of Armagh - the see of St. Patrick - was handed down from father to son until the year 1,000. The Gaelic monks who evangelized Europe during the Dark Ages were married men. There are a few notable exception like St. Paul who had the special gift of celibacy . . . but they are the exception and not the rule.
 

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You just don't get it do you, one hour face palm. Do you think peodaphiles are attracted to women? Why do you think these guys become priests, to pray on children and hide their homosexuality, that part I don't care about, priests can have sex with one another all they want.
But Iris certainly does get it that mandatory clerical celibacy has in the West reduced the number of those seeking ordination to the Roman Catholic Priesthood.
 

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One of the problems of the Roman Catholic Church over the past century is that it has treated a Priest having an affair or even secretly marrying as a far gra_ver offense than actual criminal conduct involving minors.
 

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You just don't get it do you, one hour face palm. Do you think peodaphiles are attracted to women? Why do you think these guys become priests, to pray on children and hide their homosexuality, that part I don't care about, priests can have sex with one another all they want.
You don't get it. These priests want to fuck everyone, because the sperm flooding into their brain. Unfortunately the altar servers are usually young boys and they are, who unfortunately always around those horny guys.
 

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Victims of clerical sex abuse have reacted furiously to Pope Benedict's claim yesterday that paedophilia wasn't considered an “absolute evil” as recently as the 1970s.

In his traditional Christmas address yesterday to cardinals and officials working in Rome, Pope Benedict XVI also claimed that child pornography was increasingly considered “normal” by society.

“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

“It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

The Pope said abuse revelations in 2010 reached “an unimaginable dimension” which brought “humiliation” on the Church.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...im-sparks-outrage-among-victims-28577483.html
 

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You don't get it. These priests want to fuck everyone, because the sperm flooding into their brain. Unfortunately the altar servers are usually young boys and they are, who unfortunately always around those horny guys.
You really are clueless. Keep posting, it is amusing.
 

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It certainly doesn't explain abuse in the 1950's, and I don't know about Chile, but more recently it has been said that the shortage of men wishing to be ordained into the Roman Catholic Priesthood (in significant measure due to the mandatory celibacy requirement) in North America and the rest of the West has lead to a less selective discernment process. Hence to some of the points above.

In answer to Oagres' question above: the Pennsylvania (Roman) Catholic Conference states that there are currently 2,509 Roman Catholic Priests in Pennsylvania.
Also the current report does not include incidences of abuse in the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Philadelphia and in the Diocese of Alltoona-Johnstown which were covered by other Grand Juries.

Philadelphia must account for 50% of the clergy in PA. So that means 300 out of 1,200(?) priests were involved with pedophilia in the state....
 

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You just don't get it do you, one hour face palm. Do you think peodaphiles are attracted to women? Why do you think these guys become priests, to pray on children and hide their homosexuality, that part I don't care about, priests can have sex with one another all they want.
And my post amuse you Beavis? :) :)
Do you really believe those men become priests, because they want to hide their aberration??? ...lol.
Becoming a Catholic priest is a serious decision and they want to serve the Lord first. Some of them can't keep their celibacy, and BECOME a pedophile , but they didn't want to be a priest , just because they want fuck young boys in the future. Where are you come from? From the Mars?
Do you really think , pedophiles are not attracted to other adults? Big parts of the pedophiles are married men, and they have own family.
They are not BORN as a pedophile. They become pedophiles in their adult life. There is a big difference.
Yeah keep posting! You have really good fantasy and you are funny! Hollywood is waiting for you.:)
 

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And my post amuse you Beavis? :) :)
Do you really believe those men become priests, because they want to hide their aberration??? ...lol.
Becoming a Catholic priest is a serious decision and they want to serve the Lord first. Some of them can't keep their celibacy, and BECOME a pedophile , but they didn't want to be a priest , just because they want fuck young boys in the future. Where are you come from? From the Mars?
Do you really think , pedophiles are not attracted to other adults? Big parts of the pedophiles are married men, and they have own family.
They are not BORN as a pedophile. They become pedophiles in their adult life. There is a big difference.
Yeah keep posting! You have really good fantasy and you are funny! Hollywood is waiting for you.:)
And......the sad part is you are far more likely to be sexually abused by your married uncle, married coach, or anyone else in a position of power.
 

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The Late Ian Paisley denounced the pope

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoCU6Clpkxk

Nicolaus Von Amsdorf (1483 - 1565)
"He (the antichrist) will be revealed and come to naught before the last day, so that every man shall comprehend and recognize that the pope is the real, true antichrist and not the vicar of Christ ... Therefore those who consider the pope and his bishops as Christian shepherds and bishops are deeply in error, but even more are those who believe the the Turk (ISLAM) is the antichrist. Because the Turk (ISLAM) rules outside of the church and does not sit in the holy place, nor does he seek to bear the name of Christ, but is an open antagonist of Christ and His church. This does not need to be revealed, but it is clear and evident because he persecutes Christians openly and not as the pope does, secretly under the form of Godliness." (Nicolaus Von Amsdorf, Furnemliche und gewisse Zeichen, sig.A2r.,v.)

Martin Luther (1483 - 1546)
"nothing else than the kingdom of Babylon and of very Antichrist. For who is the man of sin and the son of perdition, but he who by his teaching and his ordinances increases the sin and perdition of souls in the church; while he yet sits in the church as if he were God? All these conditions have now for many ages been fulfilled by the papal tyranny." (Martin Luther, First Principles, pp. 196-197)

Flacius (1570)
"The sixth and last reason for our separation from the pope and his followers be this; By many writings of our church, by the Divinely inspired Word, by prophecies concerning the future and by the special characteristics of the Papacy, it has been profusely and thoroughly proved that the pope with his prelates and clergy is the real true great antichrist, that his kingdom is the real Babylon, a never ceasing fountain and a mother of all abominable idolatry." (Flacius, Etliche Hochwichtige Ursachen und Grunde, warum das siche alle Christen von dem Antichrist ... absondern sollen)

Georg Nigrinus (1530 - 1602)
"The Jesuits claim to be sorely offended and have taken my declarations as an insult and blasphemy in branding the Papacy as the antichrist of which Daniel, Paul, Peter, John and even Christ prophesied. But this is as true as it is that Jesus is the Messiah, and I am prepared to show it even by their own definition of the word 'antichrist'." (Translated from "Nigrinus, Antichrists Grundliche Offenbarung" fol. 6v.)

"This Jesuit further contends that the Papacy cannot be antichrist because the Papacy has lasted for centuries, but that the antichrist is supposed to reign only for 3 1/2 years ... But no one doubts today that Daniel spoke of YEAR-DAYS, not literal days ... The prophetic time-periods of forty-two months, 1260 days, 1, 2, 1/2 times are prophetic, and according to Ezekiel 4, a day must be taken for a year." (Translated from "Nigrinus, Antichrists Grundliche Offenbarung" fols.28v. 29r.)

John Calvin (1509 - 1564)
"Though it be admitted that Rome was once the mother of all Churches, yet from the time when it began to be the seat of Antichrist it has ceased to be what it was before. Some persons think us too severe and censorious when we call the Roman Pontiff Antichrist. But those who are of this opinion do not consider that they bring the same charge of presumption against Paul himself, after whom we speak and whose language we adopt .. I shall briefly show that (Paul's words in II Thess. 2) are not capable of any other interpretation than that which applies them to the Papacy." (Institutes of the Christian Religion, Vol.3, p.149)

John Knox (1505 - 1572)
Yea, to speak it in plain words; lest that we submit ourselves to Satan, thinking that we submit ourselves to Jesus Christ, for, as for your Roman kirk, as it is now corrupted, and the authority thereof, whereon stands the hope of your victory, I no more doubt but that it is the synagogue of Satan, and the head thereof, called the pope, to be that man of sin, of whom the apostle speaks." (John Knox, The History of the Reformation of Religion in Scotland, p.65)

Thomas Cranmer (1489 - 1556)
"Whereof it followeth Rome to be the seat of Antichrist, and the pope to be very antichrist himself. I could prove the same by many other scriptures, old writers, and strong reasons." (Works by Cranmer, vol.1, pp.6-7)

Roger Williams (1603 - 1683)
Pastor Williams spoke of the Pope as "the pretended Vicar of Christ on earth, who sits as God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not only above all that is called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God himself...speaking against the God of heaven, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the son of perdition." (The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52)

The Baptist Confession of Faith (1689)
"The Lord Jesus Christ is the Head of the church, in whom, by the appointment of the Father, all power for the calling, institution, order or government of the church, is invested in a supreme and sovereign manner; neither can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof, but is that antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalteth himself in the church against Christ." (1689 Baptist Confession of Faith)

The Westminster Confession of Faith (1646)
"There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ: nor can the Pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition, that exalts himself in the Church against Christ, and all that is called God." (1646 Westminster Confession of Faith)

John Wesley (1703 - 1791)
"... In many respects, the Pope has an indisputable claim to those titles. He is, in an emphatical sense, the man of sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled, the son of perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers, destroyed innumerable souls, and will himself perish everlastingly. He it is that opposeth himself to the emperor, once his rightful sovereign; and that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped - Commanding angels, and putting kings under his feet, both of whom are called gods in scripture; claiming the highest power, the highest honour; suffering himself, not once only, to be styled God or vice-God. Indeed no less is implied in his ordinary title, "Most Holy Lord," or, "Most Holy Father." So that he sitteth - Enthroned. In the temple of God - Mentioned Rev. xi, 1. Declaring himself that he is God - Claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone." (John Wesley, Explanatory Notes Upon The New Testament, p.216)

Charles Spurgeon (1834 - 1892)
"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name. If there were to be issued a hue and cry for Antichrist, we should certainly take up this church on suspicion, and it would certainly not be let loose again, for it so exactly answers the description."

"Popery is contrary to Christ’s Gospel, and is the Antichrist, and we ought to pray against it. It should be the daily prayer of every believer that Antichrist might be hurled like a millstone into the flood and for Christ, because it wounds Christ, because it robs Christ of His glory, because it puts sacramental efficacy in the place of His atonement, and lifts a piece of bread into the place of the Saviour, and a few drops of water into the place of the Holy Ghost, and puts a mere fallible man like ourselves up as the vicar of Christ on earth; if we pray against it, because it is against Him, we shall love the persons though we hate their errors: we shall love their souls though we loath and detest their dogmas, and so the breath of our prayers will be sweetened, because we turn our faces towards Christ when we pray." (Michael de Semlyen, All Roads Lead to Rome)

Rev. J.A.Wylie (1808 - 1890)
"The same line of proof which establishes that Christ is the promised Messiah, conversely applied, establishes that the Roman system is the predicted Apostacy. In the life of Christ we behold the converse of what the Antichrist must be; and in the prophecy of the Antichrist we are shown the converse of what Christ must be, and was. And when we place the Papacy between the two, and compare it with each, we find, on the one hand, that it is the perfect converse of Christ as seen in his life; and on the other, that it is the perfect image of the Antichrist, as shown in the prophecy of him. We conclude, therefore, that if Jesus of Nazareth be the Christ, the Roman Papacy is the Antichrist." (J.A.Wylie, Preface to "The Papacy is the Antichrist, A Demonstration")

Ellen G. White (1827 - 1915)
"This compromise between paganism and Christianity resulted in the development of "the man of sin" foretold in prophecy as opposing and exalting himself above God. That gigantic system of false religion is a masterpiece of Satan's power - a monument of his efforts to seat himself upon the throne to rule the earth according to his will."

"To secure worldly gains and honors, the church was led to seek the favor and support of the great men of earth; and having thus rejected Christ, she was induced to yield allegiance to the representative of Satan - the bishop of Rome ... Prophecy had declared that the papacy was to "think to change times and laws. (Daniel 7:25)" (E.G.White, The Great Controversy, pp.49-51)

And Many More ...
You can see above what the reformers believed. And there were many more reformers who knew the truth that the pope was the leader of the antichrist church, including; William Tyndale, John Wycliffe, Philipp Melanchthon, Huldreich Zwingli, The Translators of the King James Bible, and so on.
 

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The people responsible for the abuse as well as the ones who tried to hide this should all be held accountable.

Who the fuck tries to.protect a pedophile?
 

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And......the sad part is you are far more likely to be sexually abused by your married uncle, married coach, or anyone else in a position of power.
And the stepfather or their own father as we saw many-many times. :(:Cry:
 
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