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Eco-friendly open-air urinals cause uproar in Paris

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An attempt by officials in Paris to tackle public urination by installing open-air urinals, or "uritrottoirs," has outraged some residents of the French capital.

The new urinals, housed in flower boxes, aren't subtle -- they're fully exposed on street corners, are painted bright red and have nearby signs advertising their presence.

City officials have installed four open-air urinals, or "uritrottoirs."
One in particular, located near the Notre-Dame cathedral, has drawn attention for its view of the River Seine.
The "intelligent urinals," which have a straw layer that eliminates odor, were installed in areas where public urination is a problem, according to a statement from city officials.

Officials say the urinals are eco-friendly -- they will harness nutrients in waste to produce compost for parks and gardens. According to the statement, one year of a person's urine holds enough nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium to fertilize 400 square meters of wheat.
However, these features have done little to calm the ire of local residents, who have written to the town hall in protest.

"I think installing a urinal in the streets of Paris for those who don't respect their surroundings is a good idea, but in my opinion, this model is not attractive at all, and where it's been set up is not appropriate at all," one man told reporters.
Another resident complained that "it is definitely a desirable and historic neighborhood, but seeing people urinating right in front of your door is not the nicest thing."
Ariel Weil, mayor of the fourth district of Paris, tweeted in defense of the urinals on Monday, calling them "an invention of genius." Four have been installed so far, with a fifth being planned.
Paris isn't the first European city to install outdoor urinals. Amsterdam has had them for years, and cities in Belgium and Australia have also trialed them.

Public urinals, or pissoirs as they're known in French, have a long history in Paris, dating back to the late 1800s when they were installed for men traveling to and from work.
It wasn't until women started entering the workforce in greater numbers decades later that the need for enclosed cubicles with seats, toilet paper and hand basins emerged, explained Raymond Martin, managing director of the British Toilet Association.

"In London, this is where the phrase 'spend a penny' came from, as it cost a penny to use these facilities -- the equivalent of buying a loaf of bread in those days," Martin told CNN.
Meanwhile some Parisian public toilets became "almost ornamental, due to their decorative features," said Martin. He added that the buildings had the added advantage of offering space for advertisers.
But centuries after the first pissoirs were installed in Paris, women are still not being adequately catered for, said Martin. "The trouble today is the inequality for women," he said, adding that in the UK, various proposals for female urinals had been rejected on the grounds that they exposed women in public.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/europe/paris-urinal-intl/index.html

Very unusual!!
 

jcpro

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I love pissing outside. You can write on the snow and pissing from a up high is a lot fun.
 

Smallcock

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I wonder if there was a backlash when the first private toilets were created. Taking a dump used to be a communal event in Ancient Rome, and definitely in Greece.

Trivia: Where does the phrase "you got the wrong end of the stick" come from? In ancient Rome people would wipe their ass in communal toilets using a stick with a brush attached on one side. Once you were finished with the stick, you'd pass it to someone else... but once in awhile they would grab the wrong end of it.
 

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They've had open urinals in Rome for Centuries, they're called "Vespasiano or Vespasiani" after the Emperor Vespasian that use to charge a tax to urinate.

Vespasian’s Legacy

Not a lot is known about the Emperor Vespasian’s life and brief rule, except that he was a highly competent general who built the gigantic Flavian Amphitheatre, better known as the Roman Colosseum.
His famous aphorism “Pecunia non olet” (Money does not smell) refers to the terse response he gave to his son Titus, who was complaining about the unpleasant nature of the Urine Tax his father had imposed on the product of the city’s urinals. (The first public toilets ever, by the way, were introduced by Vespasian in 74 A.D).
Up until then, Romans had simply urinated into pots that were emptied into cesspools. With the introduction of public urinals, the liquid waste could be collected and sold as a source of ammonia, which was used for tanning leather and by launderers to clean the patricians’ white woolen togas.

Today the Latin phrase is used to mean that the value of money is not tainted by its origins and even though public urinals have become a rarity, to this day they are still known in Italy as Vespasiani (Vespasians).


http://www.italiannotebook.com/art-archaeology/vespasian-urinals/
 

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Just another example of how Europe is going down the toilet.
 

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If I shit in a plastic bag, can I toss it in there too?
NO. But it is better than dropping it on the sidewalk like dog-owners.

Every now and then a good intention spawns a bad design that's also really stupid. Even in sophisticated Paris.


Mais, où sont les vespasiennes d'antan?
 

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Amsterdam have outdoor urinals that are very private and conveniant. The Paris ones are disgusting, how did it even get to the point where they were installed?
 

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Why is the guy standing so close?

You must stand further back if you want to piss onto the soil top...
He thought it was a mobile gloryhole kiosk.
 

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Why not just install ports-potties like they have in downtown Toronto?

Nobody wants to watch someone pissing in public.
 

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I hear in India people simply shit on the sidewalks or streets. Don’t know how they wipe and don’t want to know.
That's the reason I do not buy any food which comes from India. I don't remember the exact number but I have seen a statistic that only about 50% of Indians have indoor toilets. The govt. is working to improve sanitation but there is a long way to go.
 

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I hear in India people simply shit on the sidewalks or streets. Don’t know how they wipe and don’t want to know.
People can speak culture and travel all they want. I've been to India, and 3 blocks away from the civilization of the western hotels you'll go into a room......they'll be two holes in the ground on one side of said room, and a pile of shit stained toilet paper (all the colours of the rainbow) on the other side. Appreciate Canada
 

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Amsterdam have outdoor urinals that are very private and conveniant. The Paris ones are disgusting, how did it even get to the point where they were installed?
There's no added cost for plumbing as the units are self-contained and sort of ecologically green. Certainly do not want to be around when they change the hay in those urinals.

Why not just install ports-potties like they have in downtown Toronto?
Nobody wants to watch someone pissing in public.
Idiots were already pissing in public prior to those urinals
 
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