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Butler1000

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The FBI investigated. They collected and examined the evidence they thought necessary. Apart from Nunes et all and the other protectors of Trump who have created this phony narrative for the purpose of distracting etc. no other law enforcement agency or professional has said there anything missing from FBI investigation. And once again you have tried to tie it to Mueller etc which is contrary to all evidence. Really very funny and sad and predictable.
And those people who were in charge of the investigation have been fired. For varying reasons but mostly because of bias for Clinton and the DNC.

You are continuing to give these people the benefit of the doubt because they are the FBI. Which is the real issue. These people in fact allowed their bias to compromise their ability to function as impartial Guardians of the law.

They used their positions to protect Clinton and the DNC because they did not want Trump to be President.

It's that simple and that much of a betrayal.
 

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And those people who were in charge of the investigation have been fired. For varying reasons but mostly because of bias for Clinton and the DNC.

You are continuing to give these people the benefit of the doubt because they are the FBI. Which is the real issue. These people in fact allowed their bias to compromise their ability to function as impartial Guardians of the law.

They used their positions to protect Clinton and the DNC because they did not want Trump to be President.

It's that simple and that much of a betrayal.
All suppositions and suspicions so far. In spite of the investigations that have been done, nothing has been found and piublished that proves your statements.
 

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Mueller's investigation into the Trump supported Russian hacking of the DNC servers is ongoing, with multiple guilty pleas, indictments and signs of more to come.
Isn't it great?
Except they continue to wrongly accept the conclusions of a disgraced biased agent as fact where no evidence beyond the word of a private company exists.

The chain of evidence is broken. Not one thing said by Crowd Strike can ever be used in court.

And the Russian indictments when it comes to the GRU officers will never stand up in court. But that doesn't matter optically because they will never be tested in court.

And not one indictment for anything resembling collusion or election interference of anyone in the campaign team.

So no I'd say it isn't going well for Mueller.
 

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All suppositions and suspicions so far. In spite of the investigations that have been done, nothing has been found and piublished that proves your statements.
Hence the need to reopen the investigation of the servers.

What's wrong with examining the actual evidence?
 

toguy5252

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Hence the need to reopen the investigation of the servers.

What's wrong with examining the actual evidence?
LMAO. You really are too much. Do you think that Trumps appointee to head the FBI or his AG or his Deputy AG and all of the other Trump appointees are too dumb or blind to see what you apparently do. Do you think you are privy to more information or intelligence than any of them. No of course not but you and the other Trumpanistas are being played fpor fools and you are too dumb and gullible to see it. Too funny.
 

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I disagree. Not obtaining access to the DNC server and accepting their word and the word of a private contractor on a matter of what is being touted as national security worthy is quite biased.

Or so grossly incompetent is also worthy of dismissal. Any superviser as well that let this slide.

The texts are corroboration of biased actions.

There was no real evidence and we saw that the reopening of the Clinton email scandal around less than a week prior to the elections was actually more favourable to Trump. Especially it turned out to be a nothing burger, that cost Clinton the elections!!
Here Trump is nervous about the Mueller investigation although we still have months to go before the Mid terms.
 

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Are you referring to Trump refusing to speak to Mueller?

The server issue has been investigated to death. You just don't like to outcome so lets have more investigations until we get it right. Maybe we should have another Benghazi investigation.
Yes it has for such a long period of time, coupled with the Benghazi investigation by the Republicans that took four years. Now when there is real evidence of Russian collusion, suddenly the sky has fallen according to Trump's tweets with regards to the Mueller investigation.
 

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Hence the need to reopen the investigation of the servers.

What's wrong with examining the actual evidence?

What's wrong with Mueller investigating every nook and cranny without moron Trump's constant jibes at him. Not crooked Hillary, but totally criminal Trump!!
 

Butler1000

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What's wrong with Mueller investigating every nook and cranny without moron Trump's constant jibes at him. Not crooked Hillary, but totally criminal Trump!!
If there was evidence sure. A debunked Dossier and soon to be debunked Trump Tower meeting and what's left?
 

Butler1000

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There was no real evidence and we saw that the reopening of the Clinton email scandal around less than a week prior to the elections was actually more favourable to Trump. Especially it turned out to be a nothing burger, that cost Clinton the elections!!
Here Trump is nervous about the Mueller investigation although we still have months to go before the Mid terms.
No evidence because Strzok didn't bother to collect any........
 

toguy5252

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If there was evidence sure. A debunked Dossier and soon to be debunked Trump Tower meeting and what's left?
That well known anti-Trumper at Fox disagrees.

[IFox News host Shep Smith on Wednesday fact-checked President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani after he again falsely claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation started with the so-called Steele dossier.[/I]

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-giuliani-dossier-isnt-why-mueller-probe-was
 

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If there was evidence sure. A debunked Dossier and soon to be debunked Trump Tower meeting and what's left?
What part of the dossier do you think was debunked?
I've asked you a few times before and every time you couldn't name a single thing.
 

Butler1000

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What part of the dossier do you think was debunked?
I've asked you a few times before and every time you couldn't name a single thing.
All of it pretty much. If it was true then it's grounds for impeachment. The press won't touch it for fear of libel. The DOJ is now distancing itself as using it.

So if no one thinks it's credible enough who are after the president if say it's debunked.

You have to proof it's valid. I don't have to prove its invalid.
 

Butler1000

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That well known anti-Trumper at Fox disagrees.

[IFox News host Shep Smith on Wednesday fact-checked President Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani after he again falsely claimed that special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation started with the so-called Steele dossier.[/I]

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...s-giuliani-dossier-isnt-why-mueller-probe-was
Was a part of the FISA warrants. It's just semantics as to what exactly started the investigation. It's a part of a few vague accusations and a tame FISA court.
 

Butler1000

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No evidence that Strzok did not bother to collect any......................
As he didn't access the servers when they were the crime scene that is proof.

If someone came to you, said Russia hacked my computer, can you investigate? Wouldn't your first reaction be to take the computer into evidence?

This is so basic and undefendsble it's laughable.
 

toguy5252

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Was a part of the FISA warrants. It's just semantics as to what exactly started the investigation. It's a part of a few vague accusations and a tame FISA court.
HUTA syndrome. One of the symptoms is the inability or refusal to either see or recognize objective facts or realty. Very sad but really quite comical.
 

Butler1000

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HUTA syndrome. One of the symptoms is the inability or refusal to either see or recognize objective facts or realty. Very sad but really quite comical.
Asking the simple question if why didn't anyone in the FBI examine the server the crime was committed against is not an inability to see facts.

I prefer to assume part of the job of law enforcement is to examine a crime scene.

As is asking the question of why no one is now taking it seriously when a year ago it was a smoking gun.
 

toguy5252

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Asking the simple question if why didn't anyone in the FBI examine the server the crime was committed against is not an inability to see facts.

I prefer to assume part of the job of law enforcement is to examine a crime scene.

As is asking the question of why no one is now taking it seriously when a year ago it was a smoking gun.
I am not that smart but I am smart enough to know that the people who actually conducted the investigation and had actual aces to all the actual evidence that they deemed necessary to conduct an actual fulsome investigation know more than I do. And I do not rely on the fantasy of the deep state and other conspiracies that were created for the purpose of providing cover for the PGOTUS.

As a lawyer (non-practicing) I understand the utility and limits of evidence and how LEGAL decisions are made. I do not find conspiracies where they are necessary to excuse conduct or idiotic excuses and rationales for decisions I do not like or agree with. In real life there is not always the evidence you wish you had. You work with what you have. Every crime does not have an eye witness but law enforcement does its job and carries on. The invention of these issues by the defenders of the PGOTUS are really quite comical and the willingness of you and many, many others to accept them is the saddest commentary on the state of the US.

You ant eh others are being played for fools by Trump, Jordan, Nunes etc and you are too dumb to see it.
 

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As he didn't access the servers when they were the crime scene that is proof.

If someone came to you, said Russia hacked my computer, can you investigate? Wouldn't your first reaction be to take the computer into evidence?

This is so basic and undefendsble it's laughable.
No, the first reaction should be clone the drives, as the FBI did.
That way you get a static picture of the info at the time, with no way for it to be changed, either by those who have hacked into them or those who were using them.
By the way, there were over 100 servers, do you think the FBI should have taken in all of those servers and shut down the dems in the middle of an election?

Your argument is an idiotic talking point that bears no reality on how computer forensics are dealt with.
 
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