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Do you really pay the girls to leave at the end? (Warning: downer thread)

Greekgod69

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The question is figurative. As the old saying goes, you don't pay an escort to sleep with you, you pay her to leave when you're done. A lot of men in the hobby tell themselves that they are doing this to get sex without the complications that a relationship brings, but how true is it for you personally, reader? I, personally, see escorts at a relatively young age (my late 20s) because I am too physically unattractive to get a girl (I won't go into the details but trust me on this).

After most sessions I actually feel morally bankrupt. I can never really get into a sesh because I am aware what a burden sex with me must be. It is a task that is definitely worth every penny I pay, and maybe more. In the end, even if the sex feels nice, it never really fills the void in my soul as I leave each session fully lucid of the fact that my "best years" have passed me by and this is all I have to look forward to for the next 50 years. While my peers were partying and falling in love, moving up in their careers, getting married, and starting families, I was working 9-5 to throw away hundreds of dollars for a young woman to barely tolerate my presence for 60 mintes.

I am just wondering if anyone else on here feels like this or if you're all just cool dudes who don't like to be tied down by nagging women.
 

happydog

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I find one thing that does help if other you luck out with a common interest as to break the ice. Then you are both at ease and can talk a little.
Sometimes you can find on twitter music or show or other interest that might allow you to open up more and her as well.
Keep it light and funny even if only to hide your discomfort. I like to think it is about the whole experience and not just a quickie.
Who am I to say I am just a simple dog looking for a little attention and affection and a couple of laughs.
Hopefully not all at my expense :dog:
 

Doctor Zoidburg

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Consider this :

Guy #1 - You.

Guy #2 - Guy goes to university, works hard and gets a wife that has fantasies of living the life of the mega rich. They are comfortable but always have to watch their pennies. He is the stereotypical nagged husband. Reminded all the time that he is a failure. Never divorced because of the kids.

Guy #3 - He gets involved with a woman that just wanted a SO and not be single. Years go by and her father leaves her a substantial amount of money. Now in her 50s she no longer needs him and ejects him from her home. He struggles financially in his 60s.


Guy #4 - He has a business and does well, she hooks on to him to have a home and not work. He gives her a car, they have individual motorcycles and finances her business. Later he discovers that she is out doing coke and having sex with dudes ( that have coke ). He is devastated and starts to hit the bottle.

................which one of these dudes do you want to be? The grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence.
 

happydog

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I will go with option #4 but from the other side. Just got to find me some coke now.
 

happydog

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Some good points. I can learn from them as well. Thanks

Can I ask if you have a good time with anyone? I mean who are you seeing if you feel so awful afterward and don't at least appreciate the provider's time, touch, body, reciprocation etc? Do you have friends? Have you thought about working on your confidence and dressing sharp (or getting help with a new hair cut and new outfit) to feel better about yourself? We see clients of all types of every age, fitness level, ability, disability etc. Even the gents I see who can't do FS because of cancer treatment still enjoy kissing, cuddling, touching me, oral etc because it feels better to be with someone and be close than not. Surely you're not thinking you're at the end of the line when you're so young? Have you thought about getting a self help therapist to change your perspective on yourself and life? I honestly think guys have it easier because most women don't insist on only dating 9s or 10s whereas with hobbyists they tend to only want to date or see providers/women who are 9s or 10s. If a man is hygienic, polite, well spoken, has a decent job, treats people well and has a little confidence or can tell a few jokes or have a good conversation - he's off to an amazing start and doing better than many. I don't see the reason for feeling so down on yourself.

If you had a physical disability or some life threatening disease and only had a little time left - surely that would be a more urgent/dire situation to cause worry/stress etc. But I feel like you are already giving up on life and happiness.
 

Jasmine Raine

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I honestly think you will never have a good time with someone. Your esteem is entirely too low. That is what you need to spend your time and money on instead of trying to use this industry to fill that void.
 

sempel

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It's the opposite. They ask me to leave early.
lol, and yet somewhat correct.

Yes, some guys want the NSA sex and the immediate end to the relationship when the time is up. They are either in relationships or have been in relationships where there's been baggage so paying for sex is away to avoid the drama. Others like myself do it for other reasons and personally I feel a little sad when I do meet a really nice SP and I know when time is up it's over. I envy the wealthy guys who can afford to spend on multi-hour dates again and again.

To the OP, let me say this, you clearly have a self-esteem problem. I don't know your situation but I feel somewhat similar in the sense that when I enter the room, no heads turn, nobody's staring at me. I'm not getting approached by females even when I'm fully groomed and wearing nice clothing. That's just how it is. However, by no means do I think I'm bad looking to the point of it being a burden when a lady spends time with me. If anything, I try and make it joyful with positive attitude, humor, flexibility, and some skills.

Second, you might feel you are repulsive. Fair enough. And maybe some others find you repulsive. That's just life. However, just because you think you are repulsive doesn't necessarily make you unattractive to every single person, including SW's. There have been a few threads where SP's come on here saying they aren't shallow and basing their enjoyment on looks - it's about the client's attitude and respect. At the same time, some ladies try and find something positive about you that they find attractive - maybe you have nice skin, a nice smell, a soothing voice, nice hair, humor, etc. There is more to attraction than purely physical looks and what one figures is beautiful/ugly. Lest we forget, if you see the nude paintings from the 1800's/1900's, most of the women are overweight and that is what was considered attractive at the time. At some point I suddenly started to love it when the lady has piercings and tattoos all over.

But yes, as has been suggested, you may want to talk to someone about your issues.
 

Mishman527

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Consider this :

Guy #1 - You.

Guy #2 - Guy goes to university, works hard and gets a wife that has fantasies of living the life of the mega rich. They are comfortable but always have to watch their pennies. He is the stereotypical nagged husband. Reminded all the time that he is a failure. Never divorced because of the kids.

Guy #3 - He gets involved with a woman that just wanted a SO and not be single. Years go by and her father leaves her a substantial amount of money. Now in her 50s she no longer needs him and ejects him from her home. He struggles financially in his 60s.


Guy #4 - He has a business and does well, she hooks on to him to have a home and not work. He gives her a car, they have individual motorcycles and finances her business. Later he discovers that she is out doing coke and having sex with dudes ( that have coke ). He is devastated and starts to hit the bottle.

................which one of these dudes do you want to be? The grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence.
Well said sir. People seem to want what they don't have...when they actually get it, it's not all bacon & bj's.
I know many of my friends who have issues regardless of the situation they're in.
 

Smallcock

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Butler1000

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Some of us are actually in happy relationships and just occasionally get the itch to be with a young sexy one.

It's just us being a bastard but doing our best to keep it a secret. And besides that it's effortless. Both to find and to walk away from.
 

Robert Mugabe

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The question is figurative. As the old saying goes, you don't pay an escort to sleep with you, you pay her to leave when you're done. A lot of men in the hobby tell themselves that they are doing this to get sex without the complications that a relationship brings, but how true is it for you personally, reader? I, personally, see escorts at a relatively young age (my late 20s) because I am too physically unattractive to get a girl (I won't go into the details but trust me on this).

After most sessions I actually feel morally bankrupt. I can never really get into a sesh because I am aware what a burden sex with me must be. It is a task that is definitely worth every penny I pay, and maybe more. In the end, even if the sex feels nice, it never really fills the void in my soul as I leave each session fully lucid of the fact that my "best years" have passed me by and this is all I have to look forward to for the next 50 years. While my peers were partying and falling in love, moving up in their careers, getting married, and starting families, I was working 9-5 to throw away hundreds of dollars for a young woman to barely tolerate my presence for 60 mintes.

I am just wondering if anyone else on here feels like this or if you're all just cool dudes who don't like to be tied down by nagging women.
Sorry to hear things are so bad. Maybe take comfort in that girls will still see you. You have money to pay them. and you are capable of having sex. Plenty of people in this world don't have those options at all.
 

drlove

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Try not to read so much into it, or overthink things... just be happy you’ve found a way to spend time with a beautiful woman other guys would die to be with. Some don’t have time for a relationship, some don’t want the hassle etc.. There’s lots of reasons. It doesn’t mean that it’s a chore for the lady by any means... it can evolve into a very nice and genuine business friendship. I’ve dated a former escort in real life, but you have to decide what it is you want... I’m sure there are a lot of women out there who would love to date you... it’s just a matter of making the effort and finding them. If on the other hand, you find that just having the fantasy works better for you, that’s fine... there’s nothing wrong with that. In fact, in the long run, you’ll likely be thanking your lucky stars when everyone around you is getting divorced!
 

kherg007

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Try not to read so much into it, or overthink things... just be happy you’ve found a way to spend time with a beautiful woman other guys would die to be with. Some don’t have time for a relationship, some don’t want the hassle etc.. There’s lots of reasons. It doesn’t mean that it’s a chore for the lady by any means... it can evolve into a very nice and genuine business friendship. I’ve dated a former escort in real life, but you have to decide what it is you want... I’m sure there are a lot of women out there who would love to date you... it’s just a matter of making the effort and finding them. If on the other hand, you find that just having the fantasy works better for you, that’s fine... there’s nothing wrong with that. In fact, in the long run, you’ll likely be thanking your lucky stars when everyone around you is getting divorced!
+1. Great comments.
I am so happy to be with an extraordinarily lovely woman...who makes you forget your age, that i radiate joy in my visits. I have seen and experienced things people should never have to see or experience in this life, so when you get a chance to have an uncomplicated fun time connecting with another human being who would be ordinarily unattainable...how can one not be simply over the moon! Many ladies have commented on how happy and upbeat I am compared to others...and I cannot understand any lack of enthusiasm. Apparently I am the golden retriever of clients, tail always wagging!! LOL. But then again, i never anticipated that the ladies who have brought me such joy would be as smart and interesting as they are beautiful. Really amps up the pleasure and why I adore my regs!

So look at it that way greekgod69. The great ladies in this biz will identify something great about you, cuz you DO have something in you...maybe it is your sensitivity? Many ladies prefer a more sensitive man to a blockhead. So it is real. Just honour the holy trinity of good clienting - be clean, respectful, and polite - and then enjoy it!
 

JaimeWolf

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The question is figurative. As the old saying goes, you don't pay an escort to sleep with you, you pay her to leave when you're done. A lot of men in the hobby tell themselves that they are doing this to get sex without the complications that a relationship brings, but how true is it for you personally, reader? I, personally, see escorts at a relatively young age (my late 20s) because I am too physically unattractive to get a girl (I won't go into the details but trust me on this).

After most sessions I actually feel morally bankrupt. I can never really get into a sesh because I am aware what a burden sex with me must be. It is a task that is definitely worth every penny I pay, and maybe more. In the end, even if the sex feels nice, it never really fills the void in my soul as I leave each session fully lucid of the fact that my "best years" have passed me by and this is all I have to look forward to for the next 50 years. While my peers were partying and falling in love, moving up in their careers, getting married, and starting families, I was working 9-5 to throw away hundreds of dollars for a young woman to barely tolerate my presence for 60 mintes.

I am just wondering if anyone else on here feels like this or if you're all just cool dudes who don't like to be tied down by nagging women.
Don't confuse cliche sayings with reality. The reality for most escorts, it's just a job. You are client #13 of 28 she's booked for the week. There will be clients younger, older, uglier, with bigger cock, smellier, etc. than you. Just show up on time, well groomed with good hygiene, and she typically won't care that you are physically unattractive. On the flip side, there are plenty of idiots who send a selfie to escorts ahead of first-time visits, feebly thinking their appearance entitles them to greater mileage or a discount.
 

jcpro

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Dude, stop navel gazing and look around you. No matter how you look(unless you're a real life Quasimodo) there's a woman out there for you. The greatest obstacle and a mood killer is not looks, but an attitude. Prostitution is NOT a substitute for a relationship (if you desire one), prostitution is entertainment. Next time, order two girls and just watch them "work" or get a chick with dick and see if you feel the same at the end of the session.
 

malata

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In the end, even if the sex feels nice, it never really fills the void in my soul as I leave each session fully lucid of the fact that my "best years" have passed me by and this is all I have to look forward to for the next 50 years. While my peers were partying and falling in love, moving up in their careers, getting married, and starting families, I was working 9-5 to throw away hundreds of dollars for a young woman to barely tolerate my presence for 60 mintes.
think how much more depressed you would be without pussy. Go ahead, make that booty call, your peers mush envy you. Just up-hold the number one rule "live within your means"

 

sempel

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+1. Great comments.
I am so happy to be with an extraordinarily lovely woman...who makes you forget your age, that i radiate joy in my visits. I have seen and experienced things people should never have to see or experience in this life, so when you get a chance to have an uncomplicated fun time connecting with another human being who would be ordinarily unattainable...how can one not be simply over the moon! Many ladies have commented on how happy and upbeat I am compared to others...and I cannot understand any lack of enthusiasm. Apparently I am the golden retriever of clients, tail always wagging!! LOL. But then again, i never anticipated that the ladies who have brought me such joy would be as smart and interesting as they are beautiful. Really amps up the pleasure and why I adore my regs!

So look at it that way greekgod69. The great ladies in this biz will identify something great about you, cuz you DO have something in you...maybe it is your sensitivity? Many ladies prefer a more sensitive man to a blockhead. So it is real. Just honour the holy trinity of good clienting - be clean, respectful, and polite - and then enjoy it!
I too show up to my appointments in a happy mood. I don't wear my emotions on the sleeve much but I'm bursting with joy and anticipation of the chance to spend time with a lady. Perhaps the OP needs (as suggested) is to go in with a positive/optimistic attitude. OP - look at the situation. You are going to spend some time with a lady. You are about to have a good time. These things are great so embrace them instead of looking for things to point out that are bad. Honestly I think most guys should show up excited as fuck because they are about to have a good time. My mood stays positive is the SP is good, it gets down if the SP is bad i.e has a bad attitude.
 

Greekgod69

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Consider this :

Guy #1 - You.

Guy #2 - Guy goes to university, works hard and gets a wife that has fantasies of living the life of the mega rich. They are comfortable but always have to watch their pennies. He is the stereotypical nagged husband. Reminded all the time that he is a failure. Never divorced because of the kids.

Guy #3 - He gets involved with a woman that just wanted a SO and not be single. Years go by and her father leaves her a substantial amount of money. Now in her 50s she no longer needs him and ejects him from her home. He struggles financially in his 60s.


Guy #4 - He has a business and does well, she hooks on to him to have a home and not work. He gives her a car, they have individual motorcycles and finances her business. Later he discovers that she is out doing coke and having sex with dudes ( that have coke ). He is devastated and starts to hit the bottle.

................which one of these dudes do you want to be? The grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence.
Yeah, shit happens. Even lucky people can find themselves in unfortunate situations once in a while. But not every man fits under one of those categories. Most people have decent relationships with women who love them and when it ends, it's not the end of the world because there's always someone else out there. When you're ultra-ugly, there's no one out there for you.

Anyway, I had a girlfriend over a decade ago when I was in high school and I messed up that relationship completely. The reason I felt the need to mention that was because I know what it is like when a woman genuinely likes you; I've been on both sides of the fence. Could it be that the grass truly might be greener on the other side?



Can I ask if you have a good time with anyone? I mean who are you seeing if you feel so awful afterward and don't at least appreciate the provider's time, touch, body, reciprocation etc?
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate it for what it is. In fact, I probably enjoy the small talk before and after the sex more than the deed itself. There was maybe one girl I saw that seemed really distant in terms of talking but she was so good in bed that I was impressed. But I know that none of these girls would give me the time of day if I wasn't paying. I'd rather just hang out and go to a concert or watch a movie or something instead of having sex...

Dude, stop navel gazing and look around you. No matter how you look(unless you're a real life Quasimodo) there's a woman out there for you. The greatest obstacle and a mood killer is not looks, but an attitude. Prostitution is NOT a substitute for a relationship (if you desire one), prostitution is entertainment. Next time, order two girls and just watch them "work" or get a chick with dick and see if you feel the same at the end of the session.
Believe me, I truly am Quasimodo. Looks aren't the end all, be all of romance, but it is scientifically proven that you need to meet a bare minimum in terms of looks to be "dateable". But I absolutely agree, this isn't a substitute for a relationship and I never expected it to be.
 

Mr. Blond

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I am too physically unattractive to get a girl (I won't go into the details but trust me on this). After most sessions I actually feel morally bankrupt. I can never really get into a sesh because I am aware what a burden sex with me must be. It is a task that is definitely worth every penny I pay, and maybe more.
My Man, you're either over-thinking "hobbying" or just not ready (or suited) for it. Looks are not paramount. You have to identify your skills ("You know like nunchuck skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills. Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills”, then own them. Confidence will follow, and you'll be better equipped to find that someone. Back in school, a good friend wasn't particularly fit or attractive, but declared himself (and was) "the Brad Pitt of MBA final exam preparation", and there were girls that found this attractive. (The self-deprecation combined with confidence).

If you want to continue "hobbying", some advice for you to consider:
- Start following indy sp's twitter's etc. so you can identify potential compatibility
- If you're self conscious about your physical appearance, try finding an SP whom is not a "textbook 10". There are many experienced, wonderful ladies on this board that provide super-star service, but guys meeting them for the first time will still rip them with 5-6/10 on looks. Fuck looks. Focus on finding an SP that you have sexual chemistry with.
 
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