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justawildchild

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I dont know if it is a Backpage thing or what, but have the good goto girls lost interest.

I really miss Sexy Spinner, but also
Charlotte does not seem to be posting as much,
Karolyn is having roomate issues so it is only outcalls or maybe a carcall.


Has anyone found anyone (or ones) to make up for the shortfall? It just seems like the same list of people looping
their ads on Leolist.

If you know the girls above and you have found someone who helps fill that void, please let me know.



J.W.C.
 
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Well SexySpinner retired long before BP went down. I saw Charlotte's ads on Leolist very often in the past couple of months. Perhaps she's just taking a break now.

Tiffany is awesome, but she already went back to Montreal.
 

justawildchild

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Well SexySpinner retired long before BP went down. I saw Charlotte's ads on Leolist very often in the past couple of months. Perhaps she's just taking a break now.

Tiffany is awesome, but she already went back to Montreal.
I saw Tiffany just before she went back.....now all i have is her porn video lol

Charlotte just doesnt seem to post as often.

Yes, spinner was gone before BP went down....still if people know her they will know what i like
 

Fireguy03

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I've seen Charlette post on LL but she books up pretty fast. Hiedi V is not a bad choice either. But as for great goto's pickin' are slim.
 

justawildchild

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I've seen Charlette post on LL but she books up pretty fast. Hiedi V is not a bad choice either. But as for great goto's pickin' are slim.
Thats exactly my point. Except for Spinner, I am not saying the other girls are gone......just that there does not seem to be as much choice as we had once observed. It seems to be such hit and miss with these girls. Oh well, i guess it helps my bottom line.....just not my below the waist!!!!!!!
 

thumper18474

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We in the D/R...are the architects of our own misfortunes...
Exceptional travel ladies shun coming out here cus of the bitching we do about their travel rates...no bookings...no shows...and i could go on...but suffice to say...we (as a collective lot) are the problem.
 

rgkv

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We in the D/R...are the architects of our own misfortunes...
Exceptional travel ladies shun coming out here cus of the bitching we do about their travel rates...no bookings...no shows...and i could go on...but suffice to say...we (as a collective lot) are the problem.
So I just moved here and you guys have screwed it all up??? DAMN!!
 

shrek71

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We in the D/R...are the architects of our own misfortunes...
Exceptional travel ladies shun coming out here cus of the bitching we do about their travel rates...no bookings...no shows...and i could go on...but suffice to say...we (as a collective lot) are the problem.
I would say more accurately is that we are part of the problem. In the Durham Region we are/were accustomed to a certain level of service at a particular price point. As with anything you can only charge what the market will bear. So when that travelling lady comes to Durham Region and asks for $250/hour and wonders why she gets little to no bookings, this creates the same issue on SP side of the equation.

When you had providers like Sexy Spinner that provided stellar service at a bargain price for such a long period of time, it's no wonder why the hobbiest of Durham became spoiled.

Cheers
 

Jasmine Raine

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I would say more accurately is that we are part of the problem. In the Durham Region we are/were accustomed to a certain level of service at a particular price point. As with anything you can only charge what the market will bear. So when that travelling lady comes to Durham Region and asks for $250/hour and wonders why she gets little to no bookings, this creates the same issue on SP side of the equation.

When you had providers like Sexy Spinner that provided stellar service at a bargain price for such a long period of time, it's no wonder why the hobbiest of Durham became spoiled.

Cheers
From my understanding Spinner did that to undercut everyone else. It was about making as much money as possible, but it was unrealistic. She knew she was leaving. Charging $100 for a half hour of everything under the sun, that was also just a one-shot half hour, so some men were out the door in 10 mins. That was her cashing out at the end of her game. She purposely set her hour rate much higher to ensure only half hours.

I don't think that is a true reflection of Durham.

I do agree that men have worked very hard to keep the market rate in Durham a low as they can, however, it seems by doing that - you are all shooting yourself in the .... I would say foot but I think cock seems more appropriate for this topic.

As for getting $250, I have no problem getting that. It is not the rate so much as the volume. I am happy with a couple of clients a week. Touring ladies would want that in a day. Which makes sense.

What I find funny is that what is written on TERB, doesn't always translate in the real world. There are ladies who still do a tour, they just don't advertise it. They book with men via text or email when they are coming out. Like a mailing list of gentlemen in the area and they are successful that way. It seems when they advertise is when the rate bitching, the no-shows, the general disrespectful behaviours come out.
 

justawildchild

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From my understanding Spinner did that to undercut everyone else. It was about making as much money as possible, but it was unrealistic. She knew she was leaving. Charging $100 for a half hour of everything under the sun, that was also just a one-shot half hour, so some men were out the door in 10 mins. That was her cashing out at the end of her game. She purposely set her hour rate much higher to ensure only half hours.

I don't think that is a true reflection of Durham.

I do agree that men have worked very hard to keep the market rate in Durham a low as they can, however, it seems by doing that - you are all shooting yourself in the .... I would say foot but I think cock seems more appropriate for this topic.

As for getting $250, I have no problem getting that. It is not the rate so much as the volume. I am happy with a couple of clients a week. Touring ladies would want that in a day. Which makes sense.

What I find funny is that what is written on TERB, doesn't always translate in the real world. There are ladies who still do a tour, they just don't advertise it. They book with men via text or email when they are coming out. Like a mailing list of gentlemen in the area and they are successful that way. It seems when they advertise is when the rate bitching, the no-shows, the general disrespectful behaviours come out.
In defense of the spinner, it was never 1 shot in the hour.....as a matter of fact she had accomodated me a couple times on 2 shots in the half. Spinner, while in the business to make money, truly loves sex, so her price point allowed her the best of both worlds. I personally was never rushed out the door after 10 mins.....even if I was done after 10 ( that never happened btw)

I think the people that are charging $250/hr are the ones that are only in it for the money, not the other way around
 

Jasmine Raine

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In defense of the spinner, it was never 1 shot in the hour.....as a matter of fact she had accomodated me a couple times on 2 shots in the half. Spinner, while in the business to make money, truly loves sex, so her price point allowed her the best of both worlds. I personally was never rushed out the door after 10 mins.....even if I was done after 10 ( that never happened btw)

I think the people that are charging $250/hr are the ones that are only in it for the money, not the other way around
I am sorry. My understanding from her directly was the $100 half hour was one shot only. I wasn't talking about the hour. Maybe because you were a regular from before she started that at the end, it was different for you.

I was not trying to condem Spinner so I don't know why the need to "defend" her here. Just don't think that her business model at the end was reflective of the industry in Durham as a whole.

It was done to undercut all the other ladies working at the time so that she could make as much money for her exit. She made no attempts to hide that fact so sorry if my retelling of that twisted your panties a bit. I wasn't putting her down at all. It was great marketing for her and what she needed and was doing at the time. Why would I condem a smart business move like that? LOL

You can think I am only in it for the money because of my price point. It's cool. I am certainly enjoying padding my retirement but my clients know what I enjoy the most. Beside, it is not hard to see why a comment like would be made when you are making a "defensive" post. So it's all good. LOL
 

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I am sorry. My understanding from her directly was the $100 half hour was one shot only. I wasn't talking about the hour. Maybe because you were a regular from before she started that at the end, it was different for you.

I was not trying to condem Spinner so I don't know why the need to "defend" her here. Just don't think that her business model at the end was reflective of the industry in Durham as a whole.

It was done to undercut all the other ladies working at the time so that she could make as much money for her exit. She made no attempts to hide that fact so sorry if my retelling of that twisted your panties a bit. I wasn't putting her down at all. It was great marketing for her and what she needed and was doing at the time. Why would I condem a smart business move like that? LOL

You can think I am only in it for the money because of my price point. It's cool. I am certainly enjoying padding my retirement but my clients know what I enjoy the most. Beside, it is not hard to see why a comment like would be made when you are making a "defensive" post. So it's all good. LOL
I gotta say I really enjoy your comments, Jessica. You are obviously a very smart woman with a keen understanding of people and this business. (Before anyone calls me a shill, I have never met Jessica. Sadly she is more the kind of woman I'd rather have a drink with than see in a business capacity, but I have developed great respect for her based on her contributions to these discussions.)
 

justawildchild

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I am sorry. My understanding from her directly was the $100 half hour was one shot only. I wasn't talking about the hour. Maybe because you were a regular from before she started that at the end, it was different for you.

I was not trying to condem Spinner so I don't know why the need to "defend" her here. Just don't think that her business model at the end was reflective of the industry in Durham as a whole.

It was done to undercut all the other ladies working at the time so that she could make as much money for her exit. She made no attempts to hide that fact so sorry if my retelling of that twisted your panties a bit. I wasn't putting her down at all. It was great marketing for her and what she needed and was doing at the time. Why would I condem a smart business move like that? LOL

You can think I am only in it for the money because of my price point. It's cool. I am certainly enjoying padding my retirement but my clients know what I enjoy the most. Beside, it is not hard to see why a comment like would be made when you are making a "defensive" post. So it's all good. LOL
Hmmmm. So she had been planning her exit for 7 years or more?. That seems about normal? Most of the girls i have seen are not in this for the long haul. I am going to be the first to admit i do not know everyone girls reason for getting into this business, but I am sure the majority are not looking to this as a long term career. So perhaps it was her exit plan but that was a long exit.

Listen, my point is only that we have been used to a certain price point and rates seem to have jumped considerably.. Not saying that prices cant go up....just saying that we miss the good old days.

Anyway, best of luck in your career.

J.W.C.
 

gdurham

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10 yrs ago the rates were 150ish per hr. A 220-240 rate is not all that bad all things considered.
 

Jasmine Raine

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Hmmmm. So she had been planning her exit for 7 years or more?. That seems about normal? Most of the girls i have seen are not in this for the long haul. I am going to be the first to admit i do not know everyone girls reason for getting into this business, but I am sure the majority are not looking to this as a long term career. So perhaps it was her exit plan but that was a long exit.

Listen, my point is only that we have been used to a certain price point and rates seem to have jumped considerably.. Not saying that prices cant go up....just saying that we miss the good old days.

Anyway, best of luck in your career.

J.W.C.
Again, I apologize if I am incorrect. I am just going based on a thread from here a couple of years back when she was retiring. Men were complaining that her hour rate was so much higher then her half hour. She came here and said she was doing it purposely. Guys questioned it because $100 for the half vrs $240 the hour she had made no sense to them. They said they could just book two half hours and save $40. I remember thinking "you go girl" when she explained her methods and why and how the half was one shot only. But you for sure seem to know her more personally so I could be completely wrong, which my bad if I am. I ain't got no shaming in admitting fault. LOL.

I do understand the price point though. As I said, the guys have been really good at holdingthe prices down but I guess I wonder if that is now shooting yourselves in the foot. With hotels going up, HST that was added, gas, advertising etc, it makes sense that the prices would go up a bit.

I don't classify myself as a the norm for Durham either BTW. My business "model" is much different then anyone I have seen working in Durham. So while I can command $250/hr - I am again not booking 3+ calls a day at that rate. Which I think most girls need out here and for sure would need it touring.

I gotta say I really enjoy your comments, Jessica. You are obviously a very smart woman with a keen understanding of people and this business. (Before anyone calls me a shill, I have never met Jessica. Sadly she is more the kind of woman I'd rather have a drink with than see in a business capacity, but I have developed great respect for her based on her contributions to these discussions.)
Thank you!!!

I know sometimes people don't get my tone and think some of my stuff is aggressive but really I am one of the happiest people you will meet. LOL.

My PM box is always open if you want to chat! Can't say I always have the best respond time there but I always do reply. Lol.
 

Horngry

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From my understanding Spinner did that to undercut everyone else. It was about making as much money as possible, but it was unrealistic. She knew she was leaving. Charging $100 for a half hour of everything under the sun, that was also just a one-shot half hour, so some men were out the door in 10 mins. That was her cashing out at the end of her game. She purposely set her hour rate much higher to ensure only half hours.
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I just don't think it's very useful to make things up about other SP's if one does not really know. SexySpinner's rate had nothing to do with cashing out at the end of her game and the statement "She knew she was leaving" is totally incorrect. It makes for great conversation as some reminisce about good old days but is far from reality.

As for wildchild's original point, I agree, it will be very difficult to find someone in the same category. Tiffany was the only one to come close I believe but she's gone again too. LOL.
 

Jasmine Raine

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If you read further you would see why I said what I did, even though now it does seem I was wrong in what I thought.

I have tried to find the thread(s) I was referring to where she stated this. I can't find anything as she had her account deleted I think.

Closest I have found to her discussing an issue guys were having with her new rates was someone who quoted her here ---> https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...nner-contact&p=5768301&viewfull=1#post5768301

There was more and I am not saying anything negative. Please know that. I remembered it because I personally thought what she was doing was an awesome business move.

Again, I have said I could be wrong, and it sounds like I am, so I apologize for getting it wrong. I was only going based off of what I read here, what I thought I remembered. When I am wrong, I can say so, but I am not purposely making things up to shit talk another SP. I promise you that.
 

justawildchild

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No problems Jessica. We are really just positioning ourselves in the event of a return of Sexy Spinner. Lol
 
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