Fixing it would require managing tax money properly.Fixing it would involve tax money, something that the Ford voters detest.
Fixing it would require managing tax money properly.Fixing it would involve tax money, something that the Ford voters detest.
Fixing it would require managing tax money properly to benefit society and not just the well off.Fixing it would require managing tax money properly.
Debated and roundly defeated. Subsequently appealed to and failed at the Municipal Board, and never mentioned during that entire election Campaign or the recent one.How is this any different? It was debated in Toronto Council in 2013. https://torontosun.com/2013/07/18/s...enda/wcm/cbe380cd-57d8-4f14-98ce-1bfab23c12c9 Ford's views were well known to the electorate before the 2018 election. The Bill was passed in accord with the procedure of the Legislature. The Fords talked about it frequently both before and after the vote in 2013.
Your attempt at distinction is thin.
You keep changing the test for democracy. Now the issue has to be debated, and you have to win every debate (even if the debate was with everyone diametrically opposed to you for purely self-serving reasons)! And you have to speak to all your anticipated legislation in your Throne speech (that's a new wrinkle). Do you have to hire some planes to write it in the sky as well? Your version of democracy is pretty complicated and unworkable compared to just voting in an election, and voting for someone else if you didn't like what the last guy did. I think maybe that's why democracy actually works like I've described it, rather than your complicated and ever changing description.Debated and roundly defeated. Subsequently appealed to and failed at the Municipal Board, and never mentioned once during the entire election Campaign, which is held so politicians can compete for votes based on their record — this bit never mentioned — and on their plans and proposals — never mentioned — for the future. Then there's Throne Speech who's entire purpose is to lay out the overall scope of coming legislation — never mentioned — and lastly debate and Committee study, before the bill is voted into law. All of that openness to ensure each bill represents the best that our elected representatives can collectively produce on our behalf.
All of which Doogie did his best to ignore, bypass and subvert. But thanks for the Sun reference, which makes clear the Fords and their rump were the cause of the inefficiencies of Council and that when DoFo uses the term dysfunction what he's referring to is democratic debate. It's why he shuts down debate.
Managing tax money properly helps everyone.Fixing it would require managing tax money properly to benefit society and not just the well off.
Not quite...they made the decision without public consultation, which it what Doug is being accused of for reducing council.'Cuz the guy was a fucking crackhead, duh!
Life is full of suprises...unless you actually know the history...then it's not a surprise.They didn't run a campaign based around the need for more consultation and then completely avoid consultation with a surprise diktat.
p.s. What happened to Ford's promise not to touch the Basic Income pilot?
Good catch phrase but it's meaningless (unless you think subways are inexpensive).Fixing it would require managing tax money properly.
Why is it 'my test' for democracy. Don't you have your own standrds. None of mine have changed: Dougie's Council doo-doo has been and is entirely undemocratic from start to finish.You keep changing the test for democracy. Now the issue has to be debated, and you have to win every debate (even if the debate was with everyone diametrically opposed to you for purely self-serving reasons)! And you have to speak to all your anticipated legislation in your Throne speech (that's a new wrinkle). Do you have to hire some planes to write it in the sky as well? Your version of democracy is pretty complicated and unworkable compared to just voting in an election, and voting for someone else if you didn't like what the last guy did. I think maybe that's why democracy actually works like I've described it, rather than your complicated and ever changing description.
Rob Ford was a crackhead, city council moved to stop the crackhead from doing idiotic things.Not quite...they made the decision without public consultation,
In Boober69's defence, only if it fits his narrative....Rob Ford was a crackhead, city council moved to stop the crackhead from doing idiotic things.
Do you really back putting crackheads in power?
FFS, Doug's handlers knew better than to explicitly state the Toronto City Council reduction as part of their election platform, unlike Hudak and his infamous 100K public servant layoff promise./QUOTE]
All governments end up introducing/implementing plans that were not discussed during an election campaign. The previous Wynn government did not mention selling off Hydro as an example.
This will never change. I am sure there will be more issues that will come out as the new government moves forward with their agenda.
Good catch phrase but it's meaningless (unless you think subways are inexpensive).
p.s. On the topic of poor management of tax money, how's that Scarborough one stop subway doing?
I think this is an idea that is long overdue. Transit is just not in Toronto, it spans the golden horseshoe and covers several municipalities. Why should Toronto try and tackle the transit issue on it's own? It is too big for them. Time to pass it on to the province and let them integrate with the systems across the GTA.Next up is Doug's promise to take-over of the Toronto subway system with no details of what that will entail.
Show me the proof that city council removed some of his powers based on the fact that he was using crack.Rob Ford was a crackhead, city council moved to stop the crackhead from doing idiotic things.
Do you really back putting crackheads in power?
And the fact that FF refers to someone suffering with addiction issues as a "crackhead" fits his hypocritical narrative of being a "tolerant liberal".In Boober69's defence, only if it fits his narrative....
That really sums you up well.And I would take a "crackhead" saving me money rather than a leftist tax & spend thief any day.
Don't you have some addicts to go and make fun of?That really sums you up well.
Thanks.