Ford to slash Toronto city council to 25 councillors from 47, sources say
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Bully for Doug.
There's a Superior Court session scheduled on Aug 31 where a judge will decide if the new legislation can alter the number of wards for the 2018 municipal election.
Of course, after listening to the legal arguments, etc. Funny that this hearing will be from a councilor candidate (Rocco Achampong) and not the City.
There's a Superior Court session scheduled on Aug 31 where a judge will decide if the new legislation can alter the number of wards for the 2018 municipal election.
Of course, after listening to the legal arguments, etc. Funny that this hearing will be from a councilor candidate (Rocco Achampong) and not the City.
His decisions have been sound so far...and pretty transparent I would say...just because you don't like them doesn't mean they were not made based on facts and transparency.
Which is the crux of the situation...people are shocked he's actually keeping his promises...and are now arguing about the promises he made during the campaign and has kept.
Bottom line...if you don't like Doug Ford because of who he is or what he looks like or how he speaks, etc, etc...no decision or promise he makes will satisfy you. There will always be something to justify your dislike of him.
Let's be honest here rather than argue points that are not the root of your concern.
Awesome.Doug Ford's government officially cuts size of Toronto city council.
Payback is a bitch eh?
Remember when all those lazy councillors turned their chairs backwards in the council chamber when Rob was Mayor?
Doug does.
He should have pruned it down a bit more. Get rid of the pet-project lovin' communists that have kept this city back for decades.
Next up: Let's watch those same leftist councillors fight among themselves as they desperately seek re-election for a role they claim will be too difficult to manage.
Should be very entertaining indeed.
Toronto is the economic engine of the province (if not the country). If Toronto thrives, the rest of the province will too. So as the Premier, why wouldn't you look at Toronto to improve how it is being run as it has a direct impact on the province on the whole?
The province has jurisdiction as to the make-up of council. You may not agree with the law, but it is the law.
You also believe in democracy.
Yet you argue the decisions that are made by someone who has the lawful right to do so based on our democratic laws.
Your comments ooze with themes of non-democratic wrong-doings by the Premier.
The Toronto council has been a dysfunctional group for many years. It has proven that it can not accomplish anything significant for the city's benefit. Thus proving that the notion of self-governance at the municipal level with the current council configuration is a failure.
It's time for change...and change is coming.
You've gone from being funny to just bitter. And your post failed to make any cogent point.
The consensus that this is payback or spite from Ford will stick with him.
Attacking the engine of Ontario is very stupid.
He's just giving the courts fodder.
Apparently a Superior Court will hear arguments on August 31st and issue a ruling shortly thereafter.
Thanks for describing his purpose and tactics so neatly and accurately. Kinda makes a mockery of your claims that his motives were rational and his actions were open and honest though,doesn't it?
Lawful is not a synonym for democratic. If Dougie believed in democracy, the first thing he would have done when he got his brain-wave about Council was tell the voters of Toronto what he intended to use his lawful powers to accomplish, and why it would be so good for them and for the Province. But he was too chicken shit to face the voters.
I'm fed up with the no-evidence BS about Toronto Council being dysfunctional. Since when? Over what issues? Back up the claim, or shut up about it. You can go on whining about it, but without evidence we'll all know it for the petulant 'can't have my way 'cause all of you disagree' resentment that drives Ford and fools like him.
Your vision for democracy is moving steadily backward in time and becoming more and more fractured. You now appear to be retreating from the era of the city states all the way back to plebiscites! Governments need not table all of their intended courses of action in their electoral platforms. The best and most significant illustration of this was the absence of an announced and detailed intention to create the Charter of Rights and Freedoms in the preceding electoral campaign of the current PM's dad, a structural change to Canada that truly and fundamentally changed the balance between democratic rule and government through the judiciary. I don't recall so much "anti-democratic" bellyaching back then.
We always have another election for the people to cast their judgement on what the government of the day did with the power they were entrusted with.
Only your last sentence contributed anything.
The remaining blather boils down to what we already know and have repeatedly said in this thread and others: Dougie's Diktat is legal, and he's far from the the first pol to wield the heavy hand without warning. He's just following the Harris model of doing what he can get away with for personal reasons. You've added nothing under those headings. Doesn't make it right, wise, or good for anyone now or in the future. Those are all worth discussing, but you've ignored them.
You're dead wrong about Trudeau pere. He'd been talking about a Charter since he became Justice Minister under Pearson in 1967. He'd been frequently interviewed on the matter, and appointed commissions to study and draft proposals all of which were in the news. From the time he became PM in '68 no one could have doubted it was high on his agenda. That's all in Wikpedia; you needn't trust my memory.
Do note in particular: "The inclusion of a charter of rights in the Constitution Act was a much-debated issue. Trudeau spoke on television in October 1980, and announced his intention to constitutionalize a bill of rights that would include fundamental freedoms, democratic guarantees, freedom of movement, legal rights, equality and language rights." I added the emphasis. There was much national debate, federal provincial conferences and a full two years from that Trudeau announcement until the unrushed passage of the Constitution in 1982.
Unlike Fraidy-cat Dougie, who kept everything he planned secret, and stifled what little debate he was legally forced to endure.
Indeed few in Toronto ever did trust Dougie — his PCs got a only small minority of the seats in the City — and fewer will next time around. Assuming municipal votes go as the Federal and Provincial ones did in the same districts, his 25 Councillors will be even less sympathetic to his style than the previous Council. We'll see how he 'fixes' that for his friends. As for his future at Queen's Park, I expect it will be much like his established history at Nathan Phillips Square, nasty, brutish and short.
Yep, Trudeau committed to constitutionalize a bill of rights in October 1980, only months after being elected in February 1980. Oops, shouldn't that have been in the reverse order, instead of the "duck the press" election strategy he adopted that year? You don't really have to answer. LOL!
I still don't remember the widespread howls of "anti-democratic!" though, particularly from the left.
