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Is President Trump A Traitor Because He Wants Peace With Russia?

Boober69

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1. They are not going to increase spending on military. Asking for 4% of GDP is idiotic, when most countries are at 1.2-1.4%. European people will not allow it. Telling Nato members that they owe it to USA is insulting.

2. Telling Germany where to get it's gas was not appreciated, neither was telling Germans that they "are captive to Russia".

3. The UK people are feeling insulted, and is laughing at Trump, just like Canadian people are insulted and laughing at trump when he put in tariffs because "Canada is a security threat to USA".
Funny how you feel that telling Germans that they "are captive to Russia" was out of line, but Trump haters never stop saying the same thing about him...but that's ok right?
Canadians are laughing at Trudeau...he's more of an embarrassment to Canada than anything else.
 

Anbarandy

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LOL...What’s funny is that all the Trump Supporters were carrying on yesterday about how what he said at the conference yesterday was really great and made complete sense. Today he reverses himself and “clarifies” that he in fact meant the opposite...so now all the Trump Supporters are saying: “Yeah...he just misspoke; that’s what he really meant and it’s great and makes complete sense.”

There is literally no limit to these people’s idiocy.
When Trump was reading from a 'prepared for him script' his 'clarification' today of yesterday's disaster, I thought I was watching a hostage video.
 

mandrill

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Funny how you feel that telling Germans that they "are captive to Russia" was out of line, but Trump haters never stop saying the same thing about him...but that's ok right?
Canadians are laughing at Trudeau...he's more of an embarrassment to Canada than anything else.
You're not good in qualitative analysis and insight, are you, Boober?
 

mandrill

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the same people who are crying "treason" are the same ones attacked Bush for going to war with Iraq
Yup.

And Bush did real good there, didn't he?

How many thousand US / UK casualties later? Is it 10 million Iraqi refugees? Or just 8 million? How about the ethnic cleansing of Sunnis in Basra while the British army just stood by and said "Oh please!! This is simply not cricket, chaps!" And all those WMD's they found?
 

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I’m sure it’s been said, but between Crimea, Syria and Novichuk, this is not a world power that has shown itself to be in any way supportive of US foreign policy interests. He duped Bush (‘I looked into his eyes and saw his soul.’) and Obama/Clinton (‘the reset button’) who both initially pressed for normalized relations, and the cycle continues under an even scarier cloud of recent provocations.

Any one of those acts should be enough for a US President to act accordingly, assuming they’re acting on the best interests of America remaining a world superpower.

As Putin made it clear, Putin is putting Russia’s interests first. The past 12-years has shown, this does not jive with America’s interests.

In his most aggrgious act, his operatives successfully interfere with America’s most sacred political institution, seemingly without any substantial consequences. Even if the FBI concludes nobody on the Trump campaign had any connection to that act, it’s an act that in itself proves this is a foreign technocrat that is opposed to the basic objectives of American democracy, and is therefore an enemy.

Where’s the master negotiator when you need him? Normalization without serious concessions that are in-line with the interests of America and its allies seems like all those “one-sided” deals DJT Tweets about.

Any justification that this diplomatic capitulation somehow makes the world a safer place, let alone furthers US interests, ignores the obvious.

He’s a disgrace.
 

wigglee

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The premise of this thread is just too sick and twisted to even comment.....what is the frequency, Kathleen?
 

danmand

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I'd not fault Neville Chamberlain for having tried. Yes the Germans would take advantage of him, but so too was Stalin taken betrayed by Hitler after making a peace pact.

Doesn't change my opinion, and in fact, your photo just reinforced what I said. Both Britain and Soviet Russia despite trying for initial peace first, then having to go to war, came out of WW2 as victors.
While I agree with you that peace is better than war, and trying for peace is better than trying for war, I think historiens will tell you that Stalin knew what he was doing as far as Germany and the non agression pact.
 

basketcase

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I think people like dan and his extremist commentators (both left and right) have difficulty differentiating between peace and bending over. Trump may talk tough (and patriotic) at times but he has clearly shown to be more interested in appeasing Tsar Vlad than defending the US.

And there is no war to choose peace over. Even allies can have disagreements and pressure each other over them so to chastise Russia over their governmental involvement in the election is nowhere near a war. Believing that a public comment holding Russia accountable for their actions would have any impact on the US/Russian relationship is beyond infantile.

BTW. the fact that dan and Kat are comparing Trump to Stalin is very telling. At least we've found one leader that Trump will be less destructive than (hopefully).
 

WoodPeckr

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Putin & FAUX news calls them useful Idiots!!!

 
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