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What does Trump have to do to lose his base?

essguy_

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It seems that it's not enough for Trump to symbolically fellate Putin on the World stage, while putting gag ball and whip to his own security/intelligence agencies. So what would it take for the "Patriots" who love Trump to finally abandon the orange Russian puppet?
 

LT56

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If he stops attacking immigrants and minorities his base will turn on him...but that will never happen.
 

Anbarandy

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Release of the Trump/HRC sex tape.

"Russia if you are listening ...... "
 

Anbarandy

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Release of the Trump/Putin facials compilation tape.
 

Frankfooter

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I'm sure butler will tell us why this is a good idea:

Trump then endorsed Putin’s idea for how the special counsel’s investigation should operate going forward: Russian law enforcement would agree to interrogate the 12 Russians that Mueller had indicted — and allow members of his team to observe those interrogations — in exchange for the United States agreeing to interrogate American intelligence officials whom the Kremlin has accused of committing crimes against Russia (with Russian law enforcement in the room).

“We would expect that the Americans would reciprocate,” Putin explained, “and they would question officials, including the officers of law enforcement and intelligence services of the United States, who we believe have something to do with illegal actions on the territory of Russia, and we have to request the presence of our law enforcement.”

Trump praised this “interesting idea,” and suggested that Putin’s offer as evidence that his government did not interfere in the 2016 election.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ssia-relations-will-improve-after-summit.html

Rosenstein indicts 12 Russians and Trump comes back and says that Putin will question them and in exchange the US will question some Americans?
Holy piss tape!
 

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It seems that it's not enough for Trump to symbolically fellate Putin on the World stage, while putting gag ball and whip to his own security/intelligence agencies. So what would it take for the "Patriots" who love Trump to finally abandon the orange Russian puppet?
Well, you have to examine his attraction. "Make America Great Again". His base thinks that America is declining because of immigrants, uppity Blacks, "socialism", oppressive government, welfare moms, unfair Chinese trade practices, Muslim terrorists, not enough jets and aircraft carriers, etc. As long as he duels with all those "enemies", his base will love him.

These are the traditional "hates" of rural / small town white America - the Trump base. They don't assimilate that Russia is a more dangerous adversary than Honduran refugee claimants, that the US already has too many a/c carriers to really use and that Obamacare is benign and positive and not "socialist oppression". That's because they don't read university level studies of these topics and because the traditional dislikes I listed are ingrained too deeply to be displaced. And because right wing media exploits these ingrained dislikes and continually reinforces them.

To lose this support, Trump would have to lose a war - always a popularity killer. Anything short of this will not displace the perception of Trump in small town middle America as an "outsider", a "fighter" and a "real American".

The base is suspicious of intelligent, educated, urban professionals. Obama was about as bad as it could get for rural white America. He was all of those things and Black. Hillary was all of those things and a woman. The base will ride along with anyone who is none of the above and wraps himself in the American flag.

Even when Trump backs down on an issue - i.e. the Kiddie Koncentration Kamps - the base doesn't care. If they do read and assimilate even the basic facts, they cut him slack because "at least he tried". Unlike traitor Obama the Black man. Or traitor Hillary the Woman.

If you look at electoral maps, there is a clear split between urban and rural areas and between white and Hispanic / Black areas. Even southern cities are beginning to vote Dem. But almost all rural areas outside the West Coast and the Northeast vote GOP, except along the southern border counties where the electorate is Hispanic.
 

Smallcock

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A combination of the following:

The economy tanks and people lose their jobs, people feel unsafe due to constant terrorist strikes, the Left goes back to promoting normal sensible values and discussions - and a brand new face representative of these changes, illegal immigration is allowed to continue running rampant, Trump is involved in a large legitimate scandal, the MSM covering news and events impartially rather than toxic divisiveness for financial gain.

Surprised you can't figure this out.
 

jcpro

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LOL! The media opposition thought that they can set another trap for Trump at the summit. And... he sidestepped, again. He must bow to the "intelligence community", they said. The same intelligence community Bush relied on, only to be crucified later. The MSM is an opposition, an arm of the DNC and that's clear to all willing to look honestly. Btw,the look on Putin's face when asked if he had dirt on Trump was priceless. I thought he was going to explode... with laughter.
 

Smallcock

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LOL! The media opposition thought that they can set another trap for Trump at the summit. And... he sidestepped, again. He must bow to the "intelligence community", they said. The same intelligence community Bush relied on, only to be crucified later. The MSM is an opposition, an arm of the DNC and that's clear to all willing to look honestly. Btw,the look on Putin's face when asked if he had dirt on Trump was priceless. I thought he was going to explode... with laughter.
They make it so easy for Trump to run lapse around them.
 

Smallcock

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LOL! The media opposition thought that they can set another trap for Trump at the summit. And... he sidestepped, again. He must bow to the "intelligence community", they said. The same intelligence community Bush relied on, only to be crucified later. The MSM is an opposition, an arm of the DNC and that's clear to all willing to look honestly. Btw,the look on Putin's face when asked if he had dirt on Trump was priceless. I thought he was going to explode... with laughter.
The 'jcpro Gazette' headline reads:

"Terrific Trump Triumphs in Helsinki!"

The frikkin idiot is really an idiot savant!
 

Frankfooter

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LOL! The media opposition thought that they can set another trap for Trump at the summit. And... he sidestepped, again. He must bow to the "intelligence community", they said. The same intelligence community Bush relied on, only to be crucified later. The MSM is an opposition, an arm of the DNC and that's clear to all willing to look honestly. Btw,the look on Putin's face when asked if he had dirt on Trump was priceless. I thought he was going to explode... with laughter.
You guys really thought Trump did well today?
Wow, had no idea you were in that deep.
 

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I thought Trump opponents LOVE his so-called base! It's that supposed base that allow his opponents to slander every Trump supporter and attribute all kinds of racist, homophobic, sexist, anti-environmental, redneck motivations to everything Trump does. Why would his opponents muse about what it would take to disaffect his base (as they define it)?

I don't think his opponents really understand who Trump voters are, so it makes this discussion completely moot.
 

jcpro

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You guys really thought Trump did well today?
Wow, had no idea you were in that deep.
It's a first official meeting between the two administrations. But, yeah. He should have listened to all the chicken hawks who are mostly pissed off about him beating the shit out of Hillary. He should have gone nuts on Putin over low level hacks that may or may not been sanctioned, over operatives that will never be prosecuted or even debriefed. Especially since the DNC servers, to this day, have not been examined by the FBI. Yeah, that's a smart way for a leader to begin his relationship with another. Trump has turned you people into know nothing, reflexive schmucks.
 
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If he stops attacking immigrants and minorities his base will turn on him...but that will never happen.
You do realize that hispanic and black unemployment are at historic lows in the US? Attacking minorities?
 
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