I'm still waiting for you to admit that despite your years of denial, Hamas is still (as in July 2018) engaged in terrorism.
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I'm still waiting for you to provide a report more recent then 2014 to back up this claim.
By the way, I'm also still waiting for you to tell us how the two state solution works with this present situation.
Where would the borders go?
1) Hamas is still launching terror rockets and arson attacks. They didn't stop in 2014. Of course you are too afraid to agree with the groups you quote that those rockets are terrorism.
2) To start, peace works with Hamas and the PA giving up on their goal of removing the Jewish presence and instead look out for the best interests of their people. For example they could have considered this map
but Instead Abbas walked away without responding and Hamas continues with terrorism.
1) The present rockets are a reaction to Israel closing a crossing and making its illegal blockade even more deadly. Its also not Hamas launching those rockets but splinter groups, Hamas is mostly trying to stop those rockets and just signed a ceasefire. And those rockets are a war crime, but not terrorism.
2) Trying a whataboutism with old maps that were not what Abbas was given and rehashing old material covered and debunked with the Palestine Papers won't change the subject from the present situation.
This is the map we are discussing, the present situation in Israel/Palestine and why you think the two state solution is still possible.
And look at you once again trying to justify Palestinian terror attacks on Jewish civilians.
p.s. What Abbas rejected.
That is not what Abbas rejected.
There was no map that Abbas was offered.
Typical hasbara troll claim.
You are so dishonest.
Meanwhile you refuse to tell us how you think the two state solution is possible based on this US State Dep map.
I guess Al Jazeera is lying about the offer because that's what they published.
Abbas was shown the map. He was offered a contiguous Palestinian state with 1:1 Land swaps and a corridor to Gaza. He was offered some refugees going to Israel and the rest getting compensation. He was offered the Old City to be under international jurisdiction and a shared capital. He was offered exactly what the UN, the EU, Canada, the US, the Arab League see as a fair deal. Abbas walked away because he could not accept a deal living alongside Israel.
And then there is your terrorists in Hamas who refuse to even consider a permanent peace with Israel (yes, you may deny them being terrorists but Canada and the organizations you quote do).
You should read the article. That map was created by Al Jazeera as a replica of what they think Abbas was offered.
Olmert refused to give Abbas a map.
I'm sure that when you're selling your used cars you also don't let people look at the cars first.
The map you link to was never shown to Abbas.
Read your own articles.
Meanwhile, you refuse to discuss this map of the present one state apartheid Israel.
He showed him the map, offered refugees return or compensation, a shared capital in Jerusalem, the '67 lines with 1:1 land swaps, but Abbas walked away without even bothering with a counter-proposal.
And your Hamas heroes would never accept peace becaus ethey prefer ethnic cleansing to the welfare of the Palestinian people.
Al Jazeera clearly states that they drew that map and that Abbas was never given a map. So they are basing that map of the one Abbas drew on a napkin, since Israel wouldn't put their offer down in writing.
How many gas and phone contracts have you agreed to over the phone without ever seeing the contract?
How many used cars have you sold to people without letting them see or drive the car?
That is what you call the best offer they ever got?
Hilarious.
Meanwhile you've now admitted the two state solution is dead as you cannot even discuss the following US State Dep map that shows the apartheid one state solution is already here.
How many gas and phone contracts have you agreed to over the phone without ever seeing the contract?
How many used cars have you sold to people without letting them see or drive the car?
That is what you call the best offer they ever got?
Hilarious.
Meanwhile you've now admitted the two state solution is dead as you cannot even discuss the following US State Dep map that shows the apartheid one state solution is already here.
David Horowitz Brilliantly Exposes a MSA Student's True Intentions - UC San Diego
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlIJ0mUXKU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmlIJ0mUXKU
