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Avah Simonez, too low! No basic respect

MellonChill

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My first text to you would be "Hi Charlotte, how are you?"
All you need to do is respond with 'Fine"
Then I inquire from there
I included your name in the text and you respond letting me know I am contacting the right person and I didn't F it up
If you think that is a time waster, don't respond
It's all good
Or just message her how she requested it. Seems like a better approach rather than the exact way she doesn't want you to...
 

solo223

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I don't recommend ever starting with hi how are you dear, or just hi, just hey, etc. It's hard to distinguish if you're a time waster or not. I can tell you that 90% of the guys who just send me a hi/hey/u avail/how are you text are not looking for a booking, they're bored and texting everyone, looking to compare cheap rates/service, or not experienced in booking at all. I always ask guys to send me an intro and when they're looking for or else I can't tell them from the other time wasters. I'm honestly shocked why you'd say it's so well received. I guess the providers I know don't appreciate extra back and forth before you get to know what someone is contacting you about. The dear, babe, baby, hun, stuff has to go too, it's just not genuine and weird to get from a grown man who's a stranger.

"Hi my name is Bob I'm 43 and I'm looking for an appointment at x for y amount of time" - cuts to the point and doesn't waste time. I actually respect and respond to a guy who's serious about booking me and then we can discuss. Guys who seem like they just want to see if they get any reply or chat for free drive me crazy.

Too many questions and texts and most are too busy to answer. You'd be surprised some take 5 minutes to type out or respond to each text, so the more direct and to the point the better if you're REALLY interested. If you text me hi how are you I'm not even going to answer, any time I do and ask who they are and what they're looking for they don't even reply.

I don't get why guys dick around indies, but if contacting an agency they are more direct "hello i'm looking for an appointment today around 1, could you tell me who's available?" as opposed to "heyyyyyyyyy how's biz today? how are you? hmm it's been a long time, how's the weather? Oh why am I messaging? I uh wonder who's available today"
Huh...sorry but that just you, different environment...it happens to work very well with me, how is it time wasting to simply ask how you are, it's just being polite but i get it in the sense that i'm not at your end of the line, nevertheless i was brought up to be polite and nice...so i ask if you're well and get to the point, maybe in Toronto people are more business oriented but what do i know....i usually put everything in the same sentence and if i feel it's warranted i'll even give my name and i don't ask about the damn weather, your biz or any of that shit. Sorry to burst your Toronto bubble but you'd be equally surprised at the kind of response i get from providers, most of them reply in kind and then we get to the point. I've had girls tell me the exact opposite of what you're saying. Contacting an agency is different, you're talking with a booker not the provider so i'll just ask if XXX is available at XX time, if yes, great book me, if not ok bye. Not everyone is the same, you work that way..perfect if it works for you in your environment...and fyi, i always reply and i always always show up on time or earlier.
 

Canook

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Or just message her how she requested it. Seems like a better approach rather than the exact way she doesn't want you to...
She can choose to answer or not, if not no big deal as there are plenty who will. If she replies the second text includes what is required.

You be you and me be me, seems like the better approach in my opinion.
 

MellonChill

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She can choose to answer or not, if not no big deal as there are plenty who will. If she replies the second text includes what is required.

You be you and me be me, seems like the better approach in my opinion.
Will do. I just don't understand your point. Is it "I'll message however I want, answer or don't, I just don't care"?

Seems pretty futile, so good luck. :frusty:
 

solo223

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Sorry I get way too many anonymous Hi Charlotte, hey charlotte, is this charlotte? Texts it's a waste of time. I explicitly say in my ads to introduce yourself and let me know when you're looking for an appointment, if someone refuses to comply to me it shows they can't follow directions and may not be someone I want to be alone with. Saying hey how are you just says to me you're a time waster looking to chat.



Exactly.. this is part of my screening process. If someone cannot be bothered to introduce themselves why would I feel comfortable just chatting with them? They don't actually care how I'm doing that day, and it's awkward to chit chat with an unknown person. Is this a kid? Another SP? A client I already know who's changed their number? A new random person? Want a response? introduce yourself and follow directions. These guys who act like we have to jump through hoops for them to believe we're real when I'm already established and explicity ask for potential clients to cut to the chase drive me nuts. Please consider how many weirdos and idiots text/email one word and one liner messages constantly. I don't think any client would appreciate receiving all the nonsense we do and having to coax out some semblence of life from each texter. Some can barely put a sentence together, ANYONE can type hey, u avail?, hi charlotte.

There's absolutely no need for this hey how are you, omg BAAAAABE how are you, cool cool i'm horny, omg baaaabe come see me I'm available rightn now, ok cool cool babe. "crickets".

There's no need for this run around and weird baiting some guys seem to need flowery little girl texting to want to go see someone. It's weird.
Jesus, Just so you know, girls also throw at us...'hey babe', 'hi honey', 'hi sweetheart', hi this hi that. It's certainly not a a lone concept invented by guys. Do i find it weird? no, i don't..it's just the way it is and i accept it for what's it worth. Girls responding with 'Hi babe, wanna fuck tonight? Huh, no kidding, why do you think i'm here?...You have a website and twitter account, not all girls do. If i'd text you i'd follow your directions because hey i can read. But If i'm gonna see a girl who doesn't have accounts and pay hundred of dollars, i want to know or feel the type of person she is...is she being handled? is it actually her? Does she provide the services i am looking for? Not every provider has a well established presence as you do. You seem to think that only girls have to deal with shit and i understand you do and it's more than anything we have to deal with but you should also consider our side, like being baited, fake providers, fake pics, texts detailing services that turn out to be hogwash for an easy buck, getting fleeced and kicked out before our time is up (yes yes i know some guys try to get more time but the opposite is true) getting to a location and seeing a pimp running around, safety issues, i've had one handler/protector/pimp or whatever he was try to come in almost busting the hotel door open, kicking it crazy while i was still naked and starting to get dressed because 1 fucking minute had elapsed over the hour and that was with a provider that is well reviewed here. You think i felt safe? I've been threatened by crazy girls because my area code was the same of another dude who bailed out. Once a fucking guy opened the door, now imagine my surprise/shock? Our side isn't all rosy either. Just consider that as much as you have to deal with assholes, we also have our concerns and they are as legitimate as yours. I just try to be careful, support legitimate providers and avoid unpleasantness. We each have our process, your's isn't the only valid one. In a perfect world, none of this would be necessary but we don't live in rosy land.
 

comicazzi

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Perceived miscommunications or misunderstandings aside, Avah is a very fun and energetic MA/SP who provides great service.
 

Joe Blower

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wow Superwizard, look at the shit show you started with your dumb and vindictive thread. you were ghosted...big fucking deal. not sure why slamming Avah saying she's "too low" as anything to do with it.
 
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jasian14

Hard to disagree. If a Provider only expect to get instant bookings on the first text sent... That's not a Provider for me.
I concur. I don't see a provider that wants that. Its not what I want.
 

StillROAMing

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I never said what a provider expects. My exact words were, "Very few bookings are ever accomplished with one text or message, especially for new clients."
Meaning with one text I book with a regular and when confirmed by her I reply with something like, "Great. See you then." That's a total of three messages.

My point was that some message a new to them provider multiple times, say 5 to 10 or even more, for information. For me, I can do this with a new provider in 2 to 4 messages asking for 1- location, 2- rates and services and 3- the time I book. If first booking time is not possible the second one usually is. To see a provider I don't first need to know what her favorite color is, if she likes to read books or what her favorite song is. To each their own though.

I apologize for the hijack.
Cheers,
 
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jasian14

I never said what a provider expects. My exact words were, "Very few bookings are ever accomplished with one text or message, especially for new clients."
Meaning with one text I book with a regular and when confirmed by her I reply with something like, "Great. See you then." That's a total of three messages.

My point was that some message a new to them provider multiple times, say 5 to 10 or even more, for information. For me, I can do this with a new provider in 2 to 4 messages asking for 1- location, 2- rates and services and 3- the time I book. If first booking time is not possible the second one usually is. To see a provider I don't first need to know what her favorite color is, if she likes to read books or what her favorite song is. To each their own though.

I apologize for the hijack.
Cheers,
I get that too. I usually do less texts for regulars too. If I'm I visiting a new provider, I want to ask more questions hence more texts.

"To see a provider I don't first need to know what her favorite color is, if she likes to read books or what her favorite song is. To each their own though." - lol
 

Hawkeye22

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I like variety but have been cornered and ripped a couple of times from the "short texters" that now its only a recommended or repeat MA. That seems to solve a lot of life's issues.
I applaud the dudes that TOFFT, but i think those days are over for me.
I good solid "Hi XX, I'm looking for a massage around XXX, does that work? if not, what's available close to it?" That usually gets the ball rolling enough to nail down a time with minimal texting.

This thread should be renamed "Proper texting etiquette" or start a new one....

Hawk
 
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jasian14

I like variety but have been cornered and ripped a couple of times from the "short texters" that now its only a recommended or repeat MA. That seems to solve a lot of life's issues.
I applaud the dudes that TOFFT, but i think those days are over for me.
I good solid "Hi XX, I'm looking for a massage around XXX, does that work? if not, what's available close to it?" That usually gets the ball rolling enough to nail down a time with minimal texting.

This thread should be renamed "Proper texting etiquette" or start a new one....

Hawk
I concur this thread is nothing about Avah Simonez.
 

maurice93

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My first text to you would be "Hi Charlotte, how are you?"
All you need to do is respond with 'Fine"
Then I inquire from there
I included your name in the text and you respond letting me know I am contacting the right person and I didn't F it up
If you think that is a time waster, don't respond
It's all good

Can you not just ask the question and the request in one text...

“Hi Charlotte. How are you? My name is dick, I saw your ad was intrigued by your profile and would like to book a session tonight. Please let me know if anything is available. Thank you?”
 

Canook

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Sorry I get way too many anonymous Hi Charlotte, hey charlotte, is this charlotte? Texts it's a waste of time. I explicitly say in my ads to introduce yourself and let me know when you're looking for an appointment, if someone refuses to comply to me it shows they can't follow directions and may not be someone I want to be alone with. Saying hey how are you just says to me you're a time waster looking to chat.
I've been around long enough to know that I can make a mistake in typing your number or you can make a mistake typing your number, it has happened and if discretion is important a simple response verifying I'm talking to the right person shouldn't be an issue.

Exactly.. this is part of my screening process. If someone cannot be bothered to introduce themselves why would I feel comfortable just chatting with them?
Part of my screening process is verification I am texting the right person, if you are too busy to verify then it is all good but 95% will with out issue and they will be the ones getting my business.

Can you not just ask the question and the request in one text...

“Hi Charlotte. How are you? My name is dick, I saw your ad was intrigued by your profile and would like to book a session tonight. Please let me know if anything is available. Thank you?”
It's called discretion
Let me know when a lady is perfect when putting an ad together and I will look to the west for the sun to rise
If the lady is too busy to respond then she won't lose sleep over not getting my business
 

marshman

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I've seen Ava previously and I had a great time AND we had no trouble communicating.

The title for this thread is misleading and IMHO unfair to Ava - will the moderator please consider changing it to "Proper texting etiquette" or something like this as has been requested earlier by Hawkeye?
 

Vs_81

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In my humble opinion she (Avah) is outright crazy, she needs a bed in psychology ward, I saw her in the past and realized that her screws are not just loose but she might be missing some if not all. It was scary to the point that I stopped seeing her. Stay safe stay away.
 

Jabba

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I don't recommend ever starting with hi how are you dear, or just hi, just hey, etc. It's hard to distinguish if you're a time waster or not. I can tell you that 90% of the guys who just send me a hi/hey/u avail/how are you text are not looking for a booking, they're bored and texting everyone, looking to compare cheap rates/service, or not experienced in booking at all. I always ask guys to send me an intro and when they're looking for or else I can't tell them from the other time wasters. I'm honestly shocked why you'd say it's so well received. I guess the providers I know don't appreciate extra back and forth before you get to know what someone is contacting you about. The dear, babe, baby, hun, stuff has to go too, it's just not genuine and weird to get from a grown man who's a stranger.

"Hi my name is Bob I'm 43 and I'm looking for an appointment at x for y amount of time" - cuts to the point and doesn't waste time. I actually respect and respond to a guy who's serious about booking me and then we can discuss. Guys who seem like they just want to see if they get any reply or chat for free drive me crazy.

Too many questions and texts and most are too busy to answer. You'd be surprised some take 5 minutes to type out or respond to each text, so the more direct and to the point the better if you're REALLY interested. If you text me hi how are you I'm not even going to answer, any time I do and ask who they are and what they're looking for they don't even reply.

I don't get why guys dick around indies, but if contacting an agency they are more direct "hello i'm looking for an appointment today around 1, could you tell me who's available?" as opposed to "heyyyyyyyyy how's biz today? how are you? hmm it's been a long time, how's the weather? Oh why am I messaging? I uh wonder who's available today"
I definitely have to work on my own text approach.
I'm pretty basic and don't wanna waste anyone's time, so I keep it really simple. I likely come-off as a tyre kicker.

And for the record, I hate any sentence that uses "heyyyyyy" or anything similar!
 

Vs_81

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MORE!!! TERB LOVES DRAMA! LOL

(What happened Vs?)
Last time I met she was more interested in saying how hard it is to live as a single mom and how people treat her, I can listen it for some time but it kept going on and on, I left thinking that she seriously needs rehab, one morning she texted me out of the blue to help her with rent and etransfer 600$ cause it was end of the month, when I said no she started cursing me saying, when I retaliated in the same language she got completely out of control, she said “I was the worst person she has ever met in her life” seriously? Five minutes ago you were asking for help, would you ask help from the worst person on earth? She got really agitated to a point where she was not even reading my replies and continuously texting in abusive language. I was gonna make it public but then I thought her life is already screwed by her behaviour I didn’t want to create further problems with her, I decided to post now cause I heard she is doing similar things with other guys too.
 
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